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Replying To janesboro: "not irish rugby and dont have to rights to it..pretty simple stuff but you are that biased and your points are that childish focusing on cheap point scoring 'so there' mediaman
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:350 - 04/08/2016 13:01:12 1
how am i biased - i love hurling football and rugby in equal measure -can somebody not like more than one sport
how are my points childish - mediaman referes to rugby as its favourite son - i am merely making the point that if it was the case then some coverage of the super rugby final would be on rte via showing e.g. clips from scores" you know full well why they dont show super rugby.its not popular over here in the slightest and they dont have the rights to it....debate the points made instead of deflect deflect deflect.....spare us the you love hurling and football..you are defending rte as a broadcaster purely because rugby is mentioned?..you are undoubtedly pro rugby..why the hell are they hyping up leinster n munster games when there is nothing there on one of the biggest gaa weekends of the year?
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/08/2016 13:58:23
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nobody is having much of a dig at rugby.alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:350 - 04/08/2016 13:05:08
If the GAA does decide to stage the Rugby Union World Cup in 2023 given the plummeting attendances at Munster Rugby matches this past season, there's every chance that by 2023 there may be no Rugby Union supporters left to watch it.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:337 - 31/07/2016 11:12:37
having read the above post i would disagree
given that you are discounting the views of me and ormond on the basis of our "bias" can we assume you will discount mediamans view on the basis of his anti rugby bias as shown above?
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 13:59:50
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Replying To janesboro: " Replying To alano12: "[quote=janesboro: "mediaman
So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage - are they showing either teams next matches? thats hardly excellent coverage
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.
Completely ignored eh-rte will be showing kilkenny v waterford and highlights of dubs v donegal,mayo v tyrone and limerick v dublin (COYBIG!!) , yep completely ignoring it they are
One of the biggest non international rugby games in the world will be on saturday - rte will not be showing any of this -if they were as biased as mediaman says then they would be showing some bit of coverage wouldnt they? e.g highlights, clip of scores etc
Looking forward to the red herrings MEdiaman will come up with in showing his anti rte anti rugby bias or maybe he will respond to a poster!!" janesboro in fairness you still arent being objective...debate the points he made..why are leinster and munster receiving coverage when they havent games for months?..you point out rte are indeed showing games this weekend and there is other big games on another broadcaster..you would imagine they would be hyping them up to the last in normal circumstances..if this was leinster or munster in a big match then you know full well they would and to pretend other wise is not being objective and fair"
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.
i fail to see how these teams are being ignored when the matches are being shown at the weekend either live or in highlights form. In fact 8 teams with massive games including Dublin v Limerick minors will be covered by rte this weekend"]and logically should they not be receiving hype on the broadcaster in the lead up to these games?...would the same happen for an ireland 6 nations game or leinster or munster having a big game?..you keep focusing on showing the games but why is there no coverage or hype for them on the news?
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/08/2016 14:00:22
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Replying To janesboro: "Alano -janesboro in fairness you still arent being objective...debate the points he made.
ok lets debate thee point he has made - mediaman say "So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage"
i am of the view that not showing live pro12 does not constitute excellent coverage
Showing live Gaa Matches is excellent coverage
he is offering a view and i am offering another
i note when mediaman made his red herrings comment you did not refer to him as being childish
lets debate a further point he made
he referred to diarmuid connelly being questionedby rte over the incident in westmeath game and compared it to CJ stander- i made the counterpoint that if stander was in front of the media 2 days after his red card he would certainly have been questioned over it
heaven forbid i should have an opposing opinion to you" cj stander they were discussing whether he should get off or not..he didnt receive much criticism in the slightest..you fail to acknowledge where rte make mistakes...mediaman himself praised them the other day...why are you so pro rugby and pro rte?..be objective and reasonable..as has already been discussed sky are a much bigger broadcaster than rte and outbid them for the pro 12...comparing the pro 12 with the all ireland championship is pretty laughable..if you were being reasonable you would compare the champions cup with the all ireland championship as they are the big competitions..rte dont show the league nor do they show the pro 12
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/08/2016 14:03:53
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Replying To janesboro: "alano yep the same spin put out there by the likes of you..you arent an objective poster so what you have to say simply doesnt hold much weight...you are extremely pro rugby.
he is entitled to his point of view (you dont have to agree with it -i have disagreed with the guy myself and vice versa nothing wrong with that) - why does what he has to say not hold much weight ? should you opinion or mine hold more weight ?
i suspect Ormondbannerman is pro gaa too - lets ask him ORmondbannerman are you Pro GAA" because of his behaviour..he behaves like a pr person employed by the irfu...again why cant you be genuine and objective in your posting?...to say he is not pro rugby is really stretching things...why is there such a strong defence of rte so?...any reasonable person can point out that giving munster and leinster hype when there is nothing going on and failing to hype the big gaa games at the weekend is both biased and strange
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/08/2016 14:05:57
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Replying To janesboro: "not irish rugby and dont have to rights to it..pretty simple stuff but you are that biased and your points are that childish focusing on cheap point scoring 'so there' mediaman
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:350 - 04/08/2016 13:01:12 1
how am i biased - i love hurling football and rugby in equal measure -can somebody not like more than one sport
how are my points childish - mediaman referes to rugby as its favourite son - i am merely making the point that if it was the case then some coverage of the super rugby final would be on rte via showing e.g. clips from scores" because you arent being genuine in your posts..you dont compare like with like....you try and score cheap points...you dont debate the issues or even acknowledge them..you are only interested in deflecting and focusing on something else...super rugby is a very niche sport in ireland so doesnt warrant any coverage on our broadcaster as much as i enjoy it personally myself but im fully aware im in a minority
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/08/2016 14:07:40
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "janesboro in fairness you still arent being objective...debate the points he made..why are leinster and munster receiving coverage when they havent games for months?..you point out rte are indeed showing games this weekend and there is other big games on another broadcaster..you would imagine they would be hyping them up to the last in normal circumstances..if this was leinster or munster in a big match then you know full well they would and to pretend other wise is not being objective and fair
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:350 - 04/08/2016 13:00:14They are professional teams back in training for the new season. They start their new season a week/two weeks time. RTE are "hyping up" these games on this weekend.
yep the same spin put out there by the likes of you..you arent an objective poster so what you have to say simply doesnt hold much weight...you are extremely pro rugby...the idea that rte cant hype the games up is simply laughable...look at what they managed to do for a meath hurling match..when controversy and negative stories are there to be told there seems to be no issue about the gaa being amateur...your point has already been batted back but again you refuse to acknowledge it and keep saying the same spin..why are people here so pro-rte?...nobody is having much of a dig at rugby..its the coverage its getting..any reasonable sports fan knows well the coverage they get is completely disproportionate to the popularity of the sport especially when compared with gaa and soccer
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:350 - 04/08/2016 13:05:08 If I am not an objective poster then you are not either
What is the definition for the exact coverage a sport should be getting in the media? How do you divide up the time that each sport or sporting organisation should be getting?" 'if im not then your not' good response there ormo....i admit biases when i see them no matter the sport, rugby right now doesnt warrant more coverage than gaa..its simply not in the middle of rugby season while there is massive games on rte at the weekend in gaa..obviously they should be receiving coverage over the rugby as there is simply nothing going on...pretty straight forward stuff but go on continue to behave like the irfu pr man...they really should send you a pay check or 2 because you are being used as a devout slave who is getting 0 rewards otherwise
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/08/2016 14:10:05
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "janesboro in fairness you still arent being objective...debate the points he made..why are leinster and munster receiving coverage when they havent games for months?..you point out rte are indeed showing games this weekend and there is other big games on another broadcaster..you would imagine they would be hyping them up to the last in normal circumstances..if this was leinster or munster in a big match then you know full well they would and to pretend other wise is not being objective and fair
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:350 - 04/08/2016 13:00:14They are professional teams back in training for the new season. They start their new season a week/two weeks time. RTE are "hyping up" these games on this weekend.
yep the same spin put out there by the likes of you..you arent an objective poster so what you have to say simply doesnt hold much weight...you are extremely pro rugby...the idea that rte cant hype the games up is simply laughable...look at what they managed to do for a meath hurling match..when controversy and negative stories are there to be told there seems to be no issue about the gaa being amateur...your point has already been batted back but again you refuse to acknowledge it and keep saying the same spin..why are people here so pro-rte?...nobody is having much of a dig at rugby..its the coverage its getting..any reasonable sports fan knows well the coverage they get is completely disproportionate to the popularity of the sport especially when compared with gaa and soccer
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:350 - 04/08/2016 13:05:08 If I am not an objective poster then you are not either
What is the definition for the exact coverage a sport should be getting in the media? How do you divide up the time that each sport or sporting organisation should be getting?" so professional is better or superior is it?..they dont warrant the coverage they are getting at this stage of the year its that simple..i really think the likes of you and janesboro just need to hold your hands up and admit for once in a while 'yeah they shouldnt be covering that at this stage or this should be getting more hype' it would be refreshing and add to the debate..i wouldnt expect the dublin footballers to be getting massive coverage over what dundalk did the other night for instance as its not warranted...the same goes with if leinster were playing a big champions cup game in february
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/08/2016 14:14:29
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Replying To janesboro: "Alano -janesboro in fairness you still arent being objective...debate the points he made.
ok lets debate thee point he has made - mediaman say "So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage"
i am of the view that not showing live pro12 does not constitute excellent coverage
Showing live Gaa Matches is excellent coverage
he is offering a view and i am offering another
i note when mediaman made his red herrings comment you did not refer to him as being childish
lets debate a further point he made
he referred to diarmuid connelly being questionedby rte over the incident in westmeath game and compared it to CJ stander- i made the counterpoint that if stander was in front of the media 2 days after his red card he would certainly have been questioned over it
heaven forbid i should have an opposing opinion to you" To be fair janesboro it is clear that mediaman is referring to rte news rather than rte as a whole when he states that so far the weekend gaa games have been totally ignored so your response is entirely disingenuous. I suspect you knew that but for some reason refuse to accept that RTE news treatment of the bigger sports in Ireland is inconsistent at best. Doesn't matter greatly to me as I don't receive rte but i do find it a bit sad that the national games of the country should be treated so poorly by the news team.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 04/08/2016 14:27:26
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Replying To janesboro: " Replying To alano12: "[quote=janesboro: "mediaman
So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage - are they showing either teams next matches? thats hardly excellent coverage
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.
Completely ignored eh-rte will be showing kilkenny v waterford and highlights of dubs v donegal,mayo v tyrone and limerick v dublin (COYBIG!!) , yep completely ignoring it they are
One of the biggest non international rugby games in the world will be on saturday - rte will not be showing any of this -if they were as biased as mediaman says then they would be showing some bit of coverage wouldnt they? e.g highlights, clip of scores etc
Looking forward to the red herrings MEdiaman will come up with in showing his anti rte anti rugby bias or maybe he will respond to a poster!!" janesboro in fairness you still arent being objective...debate the points he made..why are leinster and munster receiving coverage when they havent games for months?..you point out rte are indeed showing games this weekend and there is other big games on another broadcaster..you would imagine they would be hyping them up to the last in normal circumstances..if this was leinster or munster in a big match then you know full well they would and to pretend other wise is not being objective and fair"
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.
i fail to see how these teams are being ignored when the matches are being shown at the weekend either live or in highlights form. In fact 8 teams with massive games including Dublin v Limerick minors will be covered by rte this weekend"]Rte don't show any minor games live anymore.
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 04/08/2016 14:46:51
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.if you were being reasonable you would compare the champions cup with the all ireland championship as they are the big competitions..rte dont show the league nor do they show the pro 12
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:360 - 04/08/2016 14:03:53 1895498
ok lets compare champions cup and all ireland championship
RTE dont show champions cup (not even highlights package if tg4 can afford it surely rte can)
RTE show the all ireland championship
This leads me to the view that RTE is not biased towards rugby
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 14:48:08
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you keep focusing on showing the games but why is there no coverage or hype for them on the news?
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:360 - 04/08/2016 14:00:22 1895489
i focus on showing the games as thats the best coverage possible
most fridays have marty morrissey doing some sort of preview of one of the games
rte six one news on thursday had preview of tipp v galway -with cameras in ballyporeen (marty was there) ,limerick and galway
rte six one news on friday had preview of clare v kerry -marty was in corofin
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 14:51:24
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Replying To janesboro: "mediaman
So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage - are they showing either teams next matches? thats hardly excellent coverage
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.
Completely ignored eh-rte will be showing kilkenny v waterford and highlights of dubs v donegal,mayo v tyrone and limerick v dublin (COYBIG!!) , yep completely ignoring it they are
One of the biggest non international rugby games in the world will be on saturday - rte will not be showing any of this -if they were as biased as mediaman says then they would be showing some bit of coverage wouldnt they? e.g highlights, clip of scores etc
Looking forward to the red herrings MEdiaman will come up with in showing his anti rte anti rugby bias or maybe he will respond to a poster!!" Why would rte show a club rugby game from the far side of the world a game most irish people wouldn't know is on. The don't show the fa cup final which would have alot more interest.
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 04/08/2016 14:52:51
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.i admit biases when i see them no matter the sport, rugby right now doesnt warrant more coverage than gaa..its simply not in the middle of rugby season while there is massive games on rte at the weekend in gaa..obviously they should be receiving coverage over the rugby as there is simply nothing going on..
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:360 - 04/08/2016 14:10:05 1895511
yes they are getting coverage -they are showing the matches either live or in highlight form- rtes coverage is not all about the six one news
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 14:53:54
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...spare us the you love hurling and football..
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:360 - 04/08/2016 13:58:23 1895483
no i wont spare it - who the hell do you think you are to tell me what sports i can and cannot like
Yes i am pro rugby - but i am pro gaa too - Look you obviously have a problem with that
Amazing when you post pro rugby you are biased - and when you post pro gaa - you aint
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 14:57:51
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To be fair janesboro it is clear that mediaman is referring to rte news r
Soma (UK) - Posts:1551 - 04/08/2016 14:27:26 1895540
Yes but i think that when considering rte coverage their whole coverage should be considered, radio, internet, television. I think overall it gets fair coverage -the thread title does not refer to rte news - it could be better but the rugby soccer and other sports coverage could improve too. I feel they are picking on where RTE are weakest and honing in on that.
and separately (and i should have responded earlier) its the junior all blacks who are New Zealands designated second team and not the maoir as i incorrectly stated The Maori have to pass a geneology test as well as qualify to play for New Zealand in order to play for the Maori, the junior all blacks have not played since 2009/10. Be some pretty good players on show nonetheless
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 15:03:50
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Replying To ROS1: " Replying To janesboro: "[quote=alano12: "[quote=janesboro: "mediaman
So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage - are they showing either teams next matches? thats hardly excellent coverage
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.
Completely ignored eh-rte will be showing kilkenny v waterford and highlights of dubs v donegal,mayo v tyrone and limerick v dublin (COYBIG!!) , yep completely ignoring it they are
One of the biggest non international rugby games in the world will be on saturday - rte will not be showing any of this -if they were as biased as mediaman says then they would be showing some bit of coverage wouldnt they? e.g highlights, clip of scores etc
Looking forward to the red herrings MEdiaman will come up with in showing his anti rte anti rugby bias or maybe he will respond to a poster!!" janesboro in fairness you still arent being objective...debate the points he made..why are leinster and munster receiving coverage when they havent games for months?..you point out rte are indeed showing games this weekend and there is other big games on another broadcaster..you would imagine they would be hyping them up to the last in normal circumstances..if this was leinster or munster in a big match then you know full well they would and to pretend other wise is not being objective and fair"
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.
i fail to see how these teams are being ignored when the matches are being shown at the weekend either live or in highlights form. In fact 8 teams with massive games including Dublin v Limerick minors will be covered by rte this weekend"]Rte don't show any minor games live anymore."]Rte don't show any minor games live anymore.
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:613 - 04/08/2016 14:46:51
Be on sunday game- game itself live on tg4 - be going up to cheer them on -massive game for us
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 15:05:18
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Why would rte show a club rugby game from the far side of the world a game most irish people wouldn't know is on. The don't show the fa cup final which would have alot more interest.
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:613 - 04/08/2016 14:52:51 1
dont think myself they should show it and they wont- point i am making if it rugby is as mediaman says its "favourite son" they would show a clip or a report from the game .
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 15:07:41
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alano
as has already been discussed sky are a much bigger broadcaster than rte and outbid them for the pro 12...
yes but tg4 are not - so rte could outbid them if they were interested ,rte could also outbid them for champions cup highlights -they could also outbid them for the Allianz leagues too - suggest to me they have a similar level of interest in either
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 15:10:58
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alano why are you so pro rugby and pro rte?..be objective and reasonable.
ok lets be objective and reasonable - rte overall show a lot more gaa than rugby (yes i know gaa encompasses 5 sports) but in fairness they show on average two championship games a week and sometimes three plus radio plus sunday game and ancilliary programmes.
Im not pro rte -i just fail to understand how people make out rte as being so anti gaa when they show a lot of it
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 15:16:31
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