gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 19/07/2016 20:20:27    1886633

It's still a friendly, it's a ridiculous cost. It's not even the strongest New Zealand team either.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3221 - 19/07/2016 20:20:27Its not a national New Zealand team its a representative team of a different sort to a national team and yes its a friendly game but that doesn't mean its a ridiculous cost of entry!
What you call a fairer/more equal/better ticket price?
Those prices are very good value for a game against NZ Maori

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 19/07/2016 21:25:32    1886663

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 19/07/2016 21:27:08    1886665

GOtmilk - think €20 for stand ticket for a kid is too much myself Ill bring my lads to the terrace and tell them its the proper all blacks- keep them happy, we will even get a HAka. CAT is middle third of the stand i.e. second tier -terrace is first tier, The Maoris and new zealands second squad, but like dublins or kilkennys second squad there will be lots of quality players on show , believe it will be competitive it wont be a friendly

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/07/2016 00:27:09    1886768

So they did one positive feature? That's it? What other contrary facts are there as presented by others?
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:3056 - 19/07/2016 13:12:09   1886241 

Probably none as they are nearly all presented by me. no to be fair the geansai programme was positive -watch it on the player youll like it,, thanks gaa its friday and the championship were positive as was the majority of the coverage on the radio was positive, the coverage of your brilliant win v monaghan on the sunday game was good too. Thought martin kielys commentary on rte radio for clare v sligo was very passionate. hope ye can build on monaghan victory, only heard it when i got to car in thurles after our games v cork and clare cheered me up , and after 2 defeats that day and intermediates few days before i needed the cheering up

Im not saying its all positive - merely saying rte show gaa in a positive light as well as negative and giving some examples of the positive stuff.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/07/2016 00:32:28    1886770

bumpernut there are numerous childish posts in reply to mediaman throughout it

and there are numerous derogatory and factually incorrect posts about rugby too. You even resorted to name calling yourself, there no need for the name calling

by they way i did manage to make it to belfast for the football qualifier went up day before - great city to visit belfast - even nicer when you get a rare win

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/07/2016 00:37:05    1886771

Alano
no there is regular examples of negativity both on radio and on tv..especially on the sunday game,

yes there is but there and regular examples of positivity on radio and on tv as well especially on the sunday game , every great bit of gaa skill from jimmy barry murphy in thurles to nicky english kicked goal, ciaran carey v clare, dj shefflin, lohan,carter , maurice fitz sean kavanagh , pat spillane
has been shown and correctly commended on that same sunday game

as i say above its not all positive - but it aint all negative either

.why do you feel so strongly in defence of rugby then if you are not pro rugby?..

i shall repeat my previous post.--
yes i am pro rugby but i am also pro gaa. Is this ok with you , can you accept somebody may like hurling football and rugby and indeed other sports--janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:461 - 19/07/2016 14:31:19  

to be honest i am pro all sports love watching rugby league nfl and even canadian football among others - think all sports are good - keeps us fit and sane (though following limerick can drive you insane) and its good fun, i just dont see why some posters feel the need to be derogatory about other sports and their fans -

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/07/2016 00:40:13    1886773

Janesboro. How do you propose Rugby learn from GAA in terms of facilities. At top level by and large rugby stadiums are better than the GAAs.

In responding i shall stick to what i know , - at club level gaa stadia are generally better in that more of them have covered terraces eg in limerick bruff, kilmallock, caherconlish, newcastlewest, kilteely, cappamore all have covered areas, compared to AIL rugby none of the limerick clubs do Bruff have a small covered area and sticking to what i know - the only AIL 1a clubs that have covered areas are cork con, ucd and clontarf (second pitch only) , some other clubs do but most dont. Its costly i know. I go to miltown malbay regularly and they have a super facility there you probably know that place. I know other non 1a clubs have covered areas eg buccs, ucc, clonmel , just feel its and area that can be improved on in rugby.


Letting kids on pitch just isn't feasible and that only is stopped at pro level games,  - i know but in fairness its brilliant for the kids (and me) to go out in fine stadiums like thurles and gaelic grounds, both cusack parks and puck around. Would inspire you to play the game and thats when the stadium is empty so can only imagine what like when full. DO it if you get a chance thurles especially is inspiring , Assume its a no no in croke park - but sadly dont get there so often to find out.

From my own experience In terms of promotion at club level the GAA is a bit better in getting the kids involved at an early age playing rugby can improve on that.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/07/2016 00:45:22    1886774

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/07/2016 08:29:43    1886792

It's still a friendly, it's a ridiculous cost. It's not even the strongest New Zealand team either."]pr gotmilk..yet more pr..i think the irfu can handle doing their own press without somebody on a forum trying to do it for them
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:250 - 19/07/2016 21:27:08Its not simply PR. To call it that is completely ignorant. Munster have a proud tradition of facing touring international rugby sides going back to 1905 when they faced Dave Gallagher(Ramelton Donegal originallys) All Blacks side. This game continues that tradition.

GOtmilk - think €20 for stand ticket for a kid is too much myself Ill bring my lads to the terrace and tell them its the proper all blacks- keep them happy, we will even get a HAka. CAT is middle third of the stand i.e. second tier -terrace is first tier, The Maoris and new zealands second squad, but like dublins or kilkennys second squad there will be lots of quality players on show , believe it will be competitive it wont be a friendly
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:466 - 20/07/2016 00:27:09I think you are out of your mind if you think €20 is too expensive for a kids ticket for this game. Its one of the top teams in the world. One that rarely plays in this part of the world thesedays and I wouldn't tell ye're kids theyre the proper all blacks. That is doing both the maori side and the full new Zealand side a disservice.
And the Maoris are not strictly New Zealands second squad.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/07/2016 11:18:41    1886880

Very balanced and fair posts as always janesboro but you have your work cut out convincing Zippy, George and Bungle that the truth lies somewhere in the middle of their biased views. Agree that €20 is very expensive for a kids ticket, they are pricing their future supporters out of the game.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 20/07/2016 12:26:16    1886922

ormond
Janesboro. How do you propose Rugby learn from GAA in terms of facilities. At top level by and large rugby stadiums are better than the GAAs.
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:466 - 20/07/2016 00:45:22
In responding i shall stick to what i know , - at club level gaa stadia are generally better in that more of them have covered terraces eg in limerick bruff, kilmallock, caherconlish, newcastlewest, kilteely, cappamore all have covered areas, compared to AIL rugby none of the limerick clubs do Bruff have a small covered area and sticking to what i know - the only AIL 1a clubs that have covered areas are cork con, ucd and clontarf (second pitch only) , some other clubs do but most dont. Its costly i know. I go to miltown malbay regularly and they have a super facility there you probably know that place. I know other non 1a clubs have covered areas eg buccs, ucc, clonmel , just feel its and area that can be improved on in rugby. Again most rugby grounds are as good as GAA grounds. My own club has covered stand. A club house with 4 dressing rooms, bar, hall/function area. Separate gym facility. Many other clubs are the same. Garryowen/Young Munster don't have covered stand but do have their club house/club bar over looking the pitch which more than makes up for a covered area outside.
Same with most other clubs

ormond
Letting kids on pitch just isn't feasible and that only is stopped at pro level games, - i know but in fairness its brilliant for the kids (and me) to go out in fine stadiums like thurles and gaelic grounds, both cusack parks and puck around. Would inspire you to play the game and thats when the stadium is empty so can only imagine what like when full. DO it if you get a chance thurles especially is inspiring , Assume its a no no in croke park - but sadly dont get there so often to find out.
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:466 - 20/07/2016 00:45:22
From my own experience In terms of promotion at club level the GAA is a bit better in getting the kids involved at an early age playing rugby can improve on that.I totally disagree on GAA being better at getting kids involved at an early age. When you say involved at an early age what exactly do you mean.
It may be fantastic for you to go onto a pitch but at a big game it isn't the right time or moment to do so. If you really want to go on a pitch arrange to do it at another time

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/07/2016 12:30:20    1886924

Very balanced and fair posts as always janesboro but you have your work cut out convincing Zippy, George and Bungle that the truth lies somewhere in the middle of their biased views. Agree that €20 is very expensive for a kids ticket, they are pricing their future supporters out of the game.
bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4137 - 20/07/2016 12:26:16Its a one off game. Maori side have never played in Thomond before and its quite unlikely they will ever again. €20 is very well priced for such a game. Considering from this season going if you purchase a season ticket for Munster you can bring 2 kids for free to all pro12 games bar Leinster. That is very good
That isn't pricing future supporters out of the game

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/07/2016 12:34:52    1886929

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 20/07/2016 14:15:30    1887007

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 20/07/2016 14:21:00    1887015

The kids free with the exception of Leinster game is an excellent move and I must commend Munster on that. I still think 20 euro for a kids ticket for a side that is made up of people from one side of the community is steep. Dress it up whatever way you want but it's not the strongest side possible.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3229 - 20/07/2016 14:21:00 What then is a more equitable price?
Hundreds of kids tickets are free for every single munster game. Clubs and schools receive free tickets for every game without exception on a rota basis.
20 is far from excessive when you compare it to a lot of other entertainment that is on offer.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/07/2016 14:28:10    1887022

The journalists who work on the nation's most viewed daily News and Sport programme RTE's 6.01 News and Sport make choices about what to show and what questions to ask every day of the week. For example at yesterday's Press Conference Diarmuid Connolly could have been asked about how good if felt to be on only the third team in the 126 year history of the Leinster SFC to win 6 in-a-row football titles (Wexford 1913-1918 and Dublin 1974-1979 were the others). Or he could have been asked to express his delight at Dublin's continuing defensive strength despite the loss of Rory O'Carroll, Jack Mc Caffrey and now James McCarthy. Instead the journalists in RTE decided to ignore the positives and concentrate on the negative i.e. his yellow card against Westmeath. Yellow mind you. Not black or red just yellow.

Of course this selective bias presents our games in a negative light and is in keeping with the general tone of negativity (on RTE's most important TV news programme) evident throughout the summer. All too often it's a case of either negative coverage or no coverage at all. The really worrying thing about it is that these same journalists are fully aware of this thread but continue to ignore what it's telling them.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 20/07/2016 14:46:04    1887050

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 20/07/2016 15:12:39    1887073

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 20/07/2016 15:55:26    1887112

For a challenge game I would say a fiver max.
You keep mentioning this other entertainment but what is it?
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3232 - 20/07/2016 15:12:39 I disagree with your use of the term challenge game as while yes it is a friendly it is more than that and its a unique and different opportunity for fans and players alike. Its something unique. I don't know yet but there is bound to be multiple other events in line with the Maori squads visit.
Yes sir, no sir, uncle tom
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1340 - 20/07/2016 15:55:26 And your point is?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/07/2016 16:05:20    1887124