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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "When Dublin are eventually beaten it will just be another meath vs Dublin in 2010 scenario. It will motivate Dublin more and you'll go onto win another 4/5 in a row until you eventually lose. This sport has no future when the county with all the natural advantages gets all the resources.

It's amateurs vs professionals and there's really nothing to be proud of regarding Dublin. You're just doing what's expected of you.

BTW can't wait to see Dublin do the 8 in a row in leinster next year. Such excitement."
Kerry won the League final and the 2014 All Ireland. Donegal in 2012. We lost the last 2 All Ireland's, though the scoreboard is a bit misleading, Dublin are masters at closing big games. So it's possible to get close to their level.

No one is denying that Dublin don't have advantages. But they're not responsible for the slide in some counties standards. Using it as an excuse not to at least put all your efforts into striving to get to their standard isn't sport, it's denial.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 21/10/2017 11:59:32    2056774

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Kerry won the League final and the 2014 All Ireland. Donegal in 2012. We lost the last 2 All Ireland's, though the scoreboard is a bit misleading, Dublin are masters at closing big games. So it's possible to get close to their level.

No one is denying that Dublin don't have advantages. But they're not responsible for the slide in some counties standards. Using it as an excuse not to at least put all your efforts into striving to get to their standard isn't sport, it's denial."
I suppose that it's Dublin's fault that Kildare humiliated Meath this year?

Are Kildare all professional players Jack Goff?

Or well WM have also had Meaths number in recent years..

Are they professionals too?

They must be going by your own logic..

What you reckon?

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 21/10/2017 12:49:12    2056780

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Kerry won the League final and the 2014 All Ireland. Donegal in 2012. We lost the last 2 All Ireland's, though the scoreboard is a bit misleading, Dublin are masters at closing big games. So it's possible to get close to their level.

No one is denying that Dublin don't have advantages. But they're not responsible for the slide in some counties standards. Using it as an excuse not to at least put all your efforts into striving to get to their standard isn't sport, it's denial."
This is nonsense. People aren't stupid. Why should amateur players make such commitments only to be beaten out the gate against a team of professionals who have every possible advantage gratuitously bestowed on them by the GAA?? Why? It's not a competitive sport anymore. And don't give me the Mayo have come close argument. Mayo are as far away as ever from winning an All Ireland and haven't won one since 1951 so don't go lecturing people from more successful counties about throwing in the towel...this is not about throwing in the towel, this is about basic respect for the sport. Millions have been thrown at one team who already had huge advantages and now we have a competition that is a farce.

Again watch the intercounty scene fall apart in the next 5 years. Nobody is going to watch and fewer and fewer players are going to bother taking part.
Just wait for the amount of players from my own county who are leaving the panel, it's a mass exodus and we can't be the only county.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 21/10/2017 13:47:12    2056792

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Mayo remind me of the knight from monty pythons holy grail where he's had his two arms cut off and one of his legs and he's still bouncing around trying to fight saying it's only a flesh wound, I mean it's gotta cut deeper than that for Mayo fans ."
bahaha :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 21/10/2017 13:55:41    2056794

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "When Dublin are eventually beaten it will just be another meath vs Dublin in 2010 scenario. It will motivate Dublin more and you'll go onto win another 4/5 in a row until you eventually lose. This sport has no future when the county with all the natural advantages gets all the resources.

It's amateurs vs professionals and there's really nothing to be proud of regarding Dublin. You're just doing what's expected of you.

BTW can't wait to see Dublin do the 8 in a row in leinster next year. Such excitement."
Ye have plenty of pickings, don't give me that resources rubbish, ye have no excuses, ye could have put in the work years ago but ye didn't. Quit your bellyaching, the Meath greats must shudder when they read stuff like that.
If we lose and are motivated to come back even stronger, that's a testament to our attitude and resolve, where has Meaths gone?

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 21/10/2017 14:00:22    2056795

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "When Dublin are eventually beaten it will just be another meath vs Dublin in 2010 scenario. It will motivate Dublin more and you'll go onto win another 4/5 in a row until you eventually lose. This sport has no future when the county with all the natural advantages gets all the resources.

It's amateurs vs professionals and there's really nothing to be proud of regarding Dublin. You're just doing what's expected of you.

BTW can't wait to see Dublin do the 8 in a row in leinster next year. Such excitement."
That's the spirit.
You must be heavily involved in the Meath set up considering their slide from a once competitive side.They need blokes like you when the chips are down. Positive approach and making sure you are the best you can be.Keep up the good work.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 21/10/2017 15:06:13    2056810

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "That's the spirit.
You must be heavily involved in the Meath set up considering their slide from a once competitive side.They need blokes like you when the chips are down. Positive approach and making sure you are the best you can be.Keep up the good work."
Yup. Theyve gone a bit soft in Meath. Not too long ago they were beating ye on an annual basis. Now they're so far behind they want ye split in two to give them a chance.

3Dhurling (Laois) - Posts: 24 - 21/10/2017 15:30:19    2056817

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Replying To 3Dhurling:  "Yup. Theyve gone a bit soft in Meath. Not too long ago they were beating ye on an annual basis. Now they're so far behind they want ye split in two to give them a chance."
Would Laois be looking for a 3 way split? (smile)

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 21/10/2017 16:04:39    2056822

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Would Laois be looking for a 3 way split? (smile)"
Before all that, I would like to say that as a Jimmie, I'd like to see Corofin split into about 10.

3Dhurling (Laois) - Posts: 24 - 21/10/2017 16:12:15    2056825

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Replying To realdub:  "Ye have plenty of pickings, don't give me that resources rubbish, ye have no excuses, ye could have put in the work years ago but ye didn't. Quit your bellyaching, the Meath greats must shudder when they read stuff like that.
If we lose and are motivated to come back even stronger, that's a testament to our attitude and resolve, where has Meaths gone?"
Realdub
Have you heard anything from cuederocket lately?

He's a sound old skin and was a great contributor to the Kerry page and the main page as well.

Anyway I hope he's ok and just taking a break from the madness.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 21/10/2017 18:56:35    2056859

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Realdub
Have you heard anything from cuederocket lately?

He's a sound old skin and was a great contributor to the Kerry page and the main page as well.

Anyway I hope he's ok and just taking a break from the madness."
Yeh he popped in a while back to say hello, he has lost his love of this place though I think he has a lot going on. Like a lot of people he has his demons. Sound man and very funny, we could do with his humour on here lately.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 21/10/2017 19:12:33    2056862

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Replying To Crinigan:  "This is nonsense. People aren't stupid. Why should amateur players make such commitments only to be beaten out the gate against a team of professionals who have every possible advantage gratuitously bestowed on them by the GAA?? Why? It's not a competitive sport anymore. And don't give me the Mayo have come close argument. Mayo are as far away as ever from winning an All Ireland and haven't won one since 1951 so don't go lecturing people from more successful counties about throwing in the towel...this is not about throwing in the towel, this is about basic respect for the sport. Millions have been thrown at one team who already had huge advantages and now we have a competition that is a farce.

Again watch the intercounty scene fall apart in the next 5 years. Nobody is going to watch and fewer and fewer players are going to bother taking part.
Just wait for the amount of players from my own county who are leaving the panel, it's a mass exodus and we can't be the only county."
Are they leaving because Dublin are winning All Ireland's?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 21/10/2017 19:21:36    2056864

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Replying To realdub:  "Yeh he popped in a while back to say hello, he has lost his love of this place though I think he has a lot going on. Like a lot of people he has his demons. Sound man and very funny, we could do with his humour on here lately."
Absolutely we could do with him , i knew the place was getting to him a bit I suppose it gets a bit rough on here at times all right, anyway I hope he comes back,

if he pops in again tell him kingdomboy1 says how's the going.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 21/10/2017 23:25:36    2056910

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Absolutely we could do with him , i knew the place was getting to him a bit I suppose it gets a bit rough on here at times all right, anyway I hope he comes back,

if he pops in again tell him kingdomboy1 says how's the going."
Will do pal

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 22/10/2017 02:38:59    2056919

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Replying To jimbodub:  "I suppose that it's Dublin's fault that Kildare humiliated Meath this year?

Are Kildare all professional players Jack Goff?

Or well WM have also had Meaths number in recent years..

Are they professionals too?

They must be going by your own logic..

What you reckon?"
We did that to Meath twice this year...........just saying:). The only way you can go play Dublin is with a positive, attacking attitude. Fair enough we got beaten by 9 but apart from Mayo, Kildare were the team who got nearest to the Dubs and that was by playing an open attacking style. Sit back and you will get picked off. Can't believe how much of the spirit is gone out of the Meath people on here nowadays. Leinster needs a competitive Meath team.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 22/10/2017 13:42:56    2056977

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Replying To Crinigan:  "This is nonsense. People aren't stupid. Why should amateur players make such commitments only to be beaten out the gate against a team of professionals who have every possible advantage gratuitously bestowed on them by the GAA?? Why? It's not a competitive sport anymore. And don't give me the Mayo have come close argument. Mayo are as far away as ever from winning an All Ireland and haven't won one since 1951 so don't go lecturing people from more successful counties about throwing in the towel...this is not about throwing in the towel, this is about basic respect for the sport. Millions have been thrown at one team who already had huge advantages and now we have a competition that is a farce.

Again watch the intercounty scene fall apart in the next 5 years. Nobody is going to watch and fewer and fewer players are going to bother taking part.
Just wait for the amount of players from my own county who are leaving the panel, it's a mass exodus and we can't be the only county."
Not allowed to commmet because he is a Mayo man? I've you personally ever won an All Ireland? Some counties need to look and fix from within besides maiming about Dublin's advantages.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 22/10/2017 20:16:20    2057052

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Replying To jimbodub:  "I suppose that it's Dublin's fault that Kildare humiliated Meath this year?

Are Kildare all professional players Jack Goff?

Or well WM have also had Meaths number in recent years..

Are they professionals too?

They must be going by your own logic..

What you reckon?"
Spot on. Easy cop out for the likes of Meath to blame Dublin for their slide into also rans. The fact that Meath haven't been relevant for nearly 20 years has nothing to do with Dublin.

What more resources do Kildare, Kerry, Mayo, Galway ,Tyrone, Donegal, Tipp, Clare, Roscommon, Westmeath etc etc have over Meath??

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 22/10/2017 20:33:03    2057058

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Big difference between professionalism and forward planning, endeavor and dedication, keep digging Meath lads, ye might reach Australia the way you're going. They're professional down there!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 22/10/2017 23:29:19    2057095

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Between 1997 and 2007 six different counties won leinster. It's no coincidence that meath are not the only team incapable of beating Dublin in the province. 4 other competitive counties are also miles off.

When we are resorting to putting Kildare on a pedestal who got hammered this year you know things are bad. They haven't won a provincial title in 17 years. the reality is Dublin are at a professional level while everyone else is either amateur or semi professional. It's not a level playing field.

If meath had the resources and player base of Dublin, and Dublin had the resources and player base of meath the results would swing.

Meath would hammer Dublin annually and Dublin would win nothing. the gaa has become an embarrassment. Anyway, enjoy winning 8/9/10 in a row lads because I know one thing for sure. I'll not be going to anymore leinster championship games. And judging by attendances in the province, the vast majority of leinster gaels are already boycotting the province. Bring on the hurling.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 23/10/2017 10:26:25    2057158

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Between 1997 and 2007 six different counties won leinster. It's no coincidence that meath are not the only team incapable of beating Dublin in the province. 4 other competitive counties are also miles off.

When we are resorting to putting Kildare on a pedestal who got hammered this year you know things are bad. They haven't won a provincial title in 17 years. the reality is Dublin are at a professional level while everyone else is either amateur or semi professional. It's not a level playing field.

If meath had the resources and player base of Dublin, and Dublin had the resources and player base of meath the results would swing.

Meath would hammer Dublin annually and Dublin would win nothing. the gaa has become an embarrassment. Anyway, enjoy winning 8/9/10 in a row lads because I know one thing for sure. I'll not be going to anymore leinster championship games. And judging by attendances in the province, the vast majority of leinster gaels are already boycotting the province. Bring on the hurling."
Yeah, bring on the hurling.
It's not like anyone was dominating that for 15 years or so.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 23/10/2017 10:44:51    2057165

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