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Good point. It is player of the year though, he was outstanding against Cork and Kilkenny. David Burke wasn't far off HOTY too, it was a fascinating year and it was not as clear cut as 2014 and 2015 when Hogan and Reid won it. I think it was very close between Barron and McInerney for HOTY. Of the three shortlisted my picks would be in this order: 1/ Barron 2/ Canning 3/ Moran. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 20/09/2017 21:01:51 2048787 Link 0 |
Yeah the Westmeath goalkeeper had a nightmare for some of the late Offaly goals that night.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 20/09/2017 21:03:39 2048788 Link 0 |
JC will go down as one of our best ever but in terms of overall impact in the 2017 championship I am torn between McInerney and Barron. Leaving my bias out of it slight nod for the Deise man. What a year for the dual player from Fourmilewater and remember he was ill the week of the all ireland and had a brillant 50 mins until his withdrawal (I can only presume he was low in energy/ran out if gas) kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1941 - 20/09/2017 21:18:33 2048793 Link 1 |
It hardly matters what stage of the game Dooley scored, any fullback that concedes 2-3 from play to his opponent and another goal from a penalty on the same player has not had a great day. It was a great effort to keep Callahan scoreless for 45 minutes but then McGrath came on and scored a quick 1-1 on him. By all means recognise the best players regardless of county and Doyle may be a fine hurler but it would be patronising to nominate a player just because he is from a weaker county.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/09/2017 21:24:03 2048795 Link 0 |
He probably wouldve scored, yes. What have ya got against Joe? Good luck to him. Barron and moran also had outstanding years too. I dont think Joe cares if he gets it. Im sure he happy to get his all ireland medal.
fireinthebelly (Galway) - Posts: 89 - 20/09/2017 21:25:14 2048798 Link 1 |
For the record, Canning scored 5 points from play in his last 4 games also!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/09/2017 08:45:07 2048871 Link 0 |
I've no dislike for Galway what so ever. I've a huge amount of friends in Galway and I've been singing the praises of most of their players all year. I just don't feel the right Galway man is being nominated for the award. There's no arguing in the end he showed fierce bottle to win the semi for Galway but my opinion is that people aren't looking at his performance as a whole that day. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think he was man of the match in any game, where as the likes of Whelan was probably at least nominated 3-4 games in a row. Anyway if he wins it fair play to him but I feel it's more of a reflection of an unreal hurling career to date rather than just 2017. For what it's worth he's the greatest player I've ever seen play for Galway and in the top 5 players I've seen play the game.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/09/2017 08:53:24 2048875 Link 1 |
Being that great, he'll mean more to this award, than this award will mean to him, if he is the selected HOTY.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3395 - 21/09/2017 10:00:34 2048891 Link 2 |
Your point is?
marooney (Galway) - Posts: 88 - 21/09/2017 10:00:35 2048892 Link 0 |
And by the way, he scored six from play in his last four games. So, you're wrong. Again.
marooney (Galway) - Posts: 88 - 21/09/2017 10:04:36 2048894 Link 0 |
Canning also made an extraordinary contribution to 'the comeback' against Waterford in the NHL q-final in Salthill, when he fired FOUR quick points from play after HT in no more than a 10-12 minute spell. This match has been given significant consideration as being the turning point in Galway's season.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3395 - 21/09/2017 10:08:42 2048898 Link 2 |
David Burke made a huge impact on the final too, operating in the same sector of the pitch as Jamie Barron. I think Waterford won the midfield scoreline by just 1-3 to 0-5 on the day, leaving it a tad unclear as to which side the HOTY was operating for. Barron was ill for the final, and there were rumblings of a quad muscle issue with Burke in the run up to the Tipp game, and the final. Perhaps you'd need to review Canning's medical file prior to the Leinster Final as well, if you're pursuing that excuse route for the candidates.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3395 - 21/09/2017 10:18:33 2048904 Link 0 |
The same as Padraic Maher which makes it more baffling
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/09/2017 10:57:42 2048922 Link 0 |
Fare enough comment tbh
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/09/2017 11:00:09 2048923 Link 0 |
Not an excuse. Just fact. I was not implying Barron would have had a 70 mins stormer by mentioning he was ill. Just stating facts as they were presented. Between Gearoid and Barron is just my opinion. JC obviously had critical plays but overall in terms of impact on the season thought the two i mentioned were ahead.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1941 - 21/09/2017 11:34:05 2048944 Link 0 |
You missed the point. I did not name the player because he came from a particular county. It was in recognition of talent, regardless of what county aplayer represents. The All Stars are invariably selected from counties involved in the closing stages of the championships, there are players in every county as talented as those from the more successful ones. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1706 - 21/09/2017 13:39:35 2049001 Link 0 |
You would have been correct if you'd said he scored five from play in his last TWO games. That wouldn't really suit the agenda though, would it.
marooney (Galway) - Posts: 88 - 21/09/2017 15:23:29 2049048 Link 1 |
Nope it wouldn't but it's still not what you'd expect from the standout player of the year now is it?
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/09/2017 15:50:19 2049062 Link 0 |
Fair play, good to see some objectivity here. If it was a vote on the best hurler Canning would win it. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 21/09/2017 16:43:30 2049073 Link 0 |
What this shortlist proves is how this award is so subjective and opinion driven. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 21/09/2017 16:46:19 2049075 Link 1 |