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Gooch on Tyrone

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Mate are you for real ? were you at the Dublin v Kerry league game in Tralee ?
That Kerry performance was the most cynical from any team ive seen in 20 years
nobody seems to care about Kerry cynicism is what you should be saying."
League match was hard going at times alright, but both sides were at it. And to be fair I've never seen a Kerry side wrestle their opponents to the ground en masse like Dublin did in both the final last month and in the semi-final last year.

But look its up to the GAA to do something about it as long as they keep getting away with it Dublin will keep at them antics.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 03/10/2017 11:18:30    2052651

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Replying To TheHermit:  "League match was hard going at times alright, but both sides were at it. And to be fair I've never seen a Kerry side wrestle their opponents to the ground en masse like Dublin did in both the final last month and in the semi-final last year.

But look its up to the GAA to do something about it as long as they keep getting away with it Dublin will keep at them antics."
The semi final last year ? Remind me of our pulling down Kerry players in that game?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/10/2017 11:29:28    2052657

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Iv only read the report on this and not the book but it's hard to see much wrong with what Cooper wrote. Ricey is very happy to talk about his verbals to opponents and how successful it was, I thought a comment he made recently on the radio about how it affected Brendan Devenney was unnecessary. Riceys teammates are also happy to speak about the verbals used and almost use him as a poster boy for that side of the game though as Cooper said they definitely were not the first to use verbals. It would have been strange if there was no mention of it all in his book.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 03/10/2017 11:33:06    2052658

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Replying To TheHermit:  "League match was hard going at times alright, but both sides were at it. And to be fair I've never seen a Kerry side wrestle their opponents to the ground en masse like Dublin did in both the final last month and in the semi-final last year.

But look its up to the GAA to do something about it as long as they keep getting away with it Dublin will keep at them antics."
As will Kerry

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 03/10/2017 11:45:48    2052661

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Replying To Joxer:  "Sorry bud but I'm not letting you away with that. 'Present Dub side doing the same stuff but nobody seems to mind'. You're having a laugh. Did you read Cooper's comments in full? Kings of sledging, pinching, hitting off the ball, keeper taking him out. Are you seriously comparing this behaviour to this Dublin team? The most cynical game that I witnessed all year was down in Tralee where nearly every Dublin player had to have his jersey replaced at half time. I've never seen such an exhibition of pulling, dragging and off the ball stuff. And to state that 'nobody seems to mind' yet the media have done nothing but comment on Dublin players taking down Mayo backs in the last minute. Do you not get the national papers in Kerry? You'd swear that a 3 in a row hadn't been achieved."
Why do you and other Dubs always bite?? everytime with out fail. He is sitting back laughing at you.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 03/10/2017 12:14:00    2052669

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I'm very disappointed in Colm Cooper recently. First the testimonial. And now his 'f*ck' cluster of a biography. I always thought the man was class in every way.

The very fact he's saying Ricey McMenamin wasn't a tight marker and never bothered him is telling us the opposite.

He seems hell bent on getting every last euro out of the gaa and the gaa public. Why? Didn't he do very well out of his gaa involvement?

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 03/10/2017 12:20:39    2052673

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Mate are you for real ? were you at the Dublin v Kerry league game in Tralee ?
That Kerry performance was the most cynical from any team ive seen in 20 years
nobody seems to care about Kerry cynicism is what you should be saying."
cute kerry horism. Kerry don't do cynical.

BartMcQueen (Cork) - Posts: 196 - 03/10/2017 12:23:44    2052674

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Very honest of you Getoverthebar.

Tyrone were a great side, didn't like some of the off the ball stuff from them mind but the present Dub side are doing the same stuff and no one seems to mind.

Havn't picked up the book yet, any good?

I finished Donal MacAnallen's book about his bother last week. It was powerful stuff, I'd recommend it highly."
Aidan Mahoney v Michael Murphy 2014
Kieran Donaghy v Paul Hearty 2006
Tadgh Kenneally v Nichols Murphy 2009

When Kerry lose only then do we hear about the cynical stuff??

BartMcQueen (Cork) - Posts: 196 - 03/10/2017 12:26:29    2052676

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Im glad Cooper has cleared up the supposed "eye gouging" from Ricey which SOME Kerry fans labelled him with. As he says it was a clash with big Packie McConnell. Sounds accidental to me, 6 foot 4 keeper clashed with smaller forward who got a glove to the eye. its unfortuneate but it happens.
Also the sledging wasn't off a personal nature. saying Cooper was going to be taken off, you hear that everywhere in club games etc. im sure many Kerry players say the same.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 03/10/2017 12:50:05    2052683

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "The semi final last year ? Remind me of our pulling down Kerry players in that game?"
In injury time in last years semifinal when 19 year old Brian o'beaglaoih was making a run up the middle of the pitch and cormac Costello jumped on his back and put the sleeper on him, it's on YouTube if you'd like to watch it clon.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 03/10/2017 12:59:17    2052687

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Replying To TheHermit:  "League match was hard going at times alright, but both sides were at it. And to be fair I've never seen a Kerry side wrestle their opponents to the ground en masse like Dublin did in both the final last month and in the semi-final last year.

But look its up to the GAA to do something about it as long as they keep getting away with it Dublin will keep at them antics."
yerra!!

BartMcQueen (Cork) - Posts: 196 - 03/10/2017 12:59:22    2052688

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Replying To GetOverTheBar:  "Cooper has every right to give his views now he's retired IMO.

It's no secret he was given a very rough ride by some of the antics of Tyrone in those games, but as he's said himself Tyrone were willing to do whatever it took back then, don't necessarily see that as an insult to Tyrone."
Jim Gavin says nothing , Gooch has something to say and now he's letting himself down , I personally like it when fellas throw off the shackles when writing an autobiography who the hell wants to pay 12 to 15 euro to read pleasantries.
I read the whole article and he mentions more than once Tyrone's hunger motivation ferocity willingness to do what it takes , in other words he was complimentary , oh and yes he mentions the slogging was he supposed to keep that quite ??????????

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 03/10/2017 13:12:10    2052693

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Well in the history books it says Tyrone had the upper hand and won 3 all Irelands , for Tyrone players officials and fans that's all that matters. But I always felt they left one or two behind them.

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 03/10/2017 13:12:59    2052694

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I suppose you have to take Goochs comments with a bit of salt, the Kerry team of the 00's never beat Tyrone, i can understand how that could rankle.

The accusation will be there etched his history, despite Kerry own success, the Tyrone team will probably be considered better given Kerry they never defeated them. Its a blot on the copy book really.

Two very good teams mind.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/10/2017 13:26:59    2052695

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Im glad Cooper has cleared up the supposed "eye gouging" from Ricey which SOME Kerry fans labelled him with. As he says it was a clash with big Packie McConnell. Sounds accidental to me, 6 foot 4 keeper clashed with smaller forward who got a glove to the eye. its unfortuneate but it happens.
Also the sledging wasn't off a personal nature. saying Cooper was going to be taken off, you hear that everywhere in club games etc. im sure many Kerry players say the same."
The sledging wasn't personal!! Ah come on fridge, it's hardly sledging if it's not personal. Maybe not in this particular extract from the book, but you can be sure a few personal insults were thrown.
However, the fact that he's saying this about Tyrone is making them an example when we all know teams all over the country and from previous decades have always been at this. Do we really think that Noel O'Leary and Paul Galvin just talked about football when they had their run ins? I've heard that Kildare under McGeaney provided the players with lists of things to wind their opponents up on.

I wonder if Kimmage considers this cheating as well!!

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 03/10/2017 13:47:04    2052702

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Why do you and other Dubs always bite?? everytime with out fail. He is sitting back laughing at you."
Nah we've done the 3 in a row. We're laughing at him :)

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 03/10/2017 13:48:09    2052703

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Poor aul Kerry

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 03/10/2017 13:56:53    2052706

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My God, some of the stuff that Kerry tried in Tralee would make those Tyrone lads look like amateurs.
Tried everything and still couldn't stop us. Similar to what they tried against Tyrone all those years ago.
I suppose the great sides thrive in those circumstances and will always manage to overcome the transgressor. Ah, great times.

Gooch is really cashing in alright but doesn't sound like the book is worth investing in.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 03/10/2017 14:06:56    2052710

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "In injury time in last years semifinal when 19 year old Brian o'beaglaoih was making a run up the middle of the pitch and cormac Costello jumped on his back and put the sleeper on him, it's on YouTube if you'd like to watch it clon."
One incident? Just like when kev mac skint Aidan O Mahony in the '15 final and Aidan blantantly brought kev down and got a black card?

Or in the 07 semi final when Shane Ryan was cynically fouled when through on goal by a Kerry defender?

Give over the bs I don't like seeing cynical play either but every team does it , Mayo in '12 were shocking every team does it.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/10/2017 14:18:51    2052716

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Replying To TheUsername:  "I suppose you have to take Goochs comments with a bit of salt, the Kerry team of the 00's never beat Tyrone, i can understand how that could rankle.

The accusation will be there etched his history, despite Kerry own success, the Tyrone team will probably be considered better given Kerry they never defeated them. Its a blot on the copy book really.

Two very good teams mind."
We defeated Tyrone many times in the league in the naughties username.

Maybe you mean we didn't beat them in our 3 meetings in the championship at that time. And how many times did Dublin beat Tyrone in the naughties?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 03/10/2017 15:15:53    2052731

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