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Just for sh##s and giggles
Now that we are down to two teams and after a year of some outstanding hurling, anyone want to hazard a guess at who will make the all stars...? I know a lot will depend on the final itself but who should be in...?...might be in..? Discuss..
hannigantiptoe (Roscommon) - Posts: 39 - 13/08/2017 19:37:11
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Replying To hannigantiptoe: "Just for sh##s and giggles
Now that we are down to two teams and after a year of some outstanding hurling, anyone want to hazard a guess at who will make the all stars...? I know a lot will depend on the final itself but who should be in...?...might be in..? Discuss.." All I know for sure is there won't be a Kilkenny man on it for the first time in about 20 years.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 13/08/2017 19:53:39
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Hard to pick but..
Nash
Tuohy
Burke
Connors
Harte
Ellis
Coleman
Barron
Chin
Gleeson
Canning
J Cooney
Whelan
Horgan
C Cooney
Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 13/08/2017 20:05:52
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Will Brick be the second Waterford hurler to win All Stars as a back, midfielder and forward. Has had a fantastic year for Waterford hope he gets a hold of an All Ireland medal a Trojan down the years, also a fantastic footballer that would have graced any county team in his prime.
dubshurling7 (Dublin) - Posts: 1017 - 13/08/2017 20:30:38
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If Galway win all Ireland there's a chance they will get at least 9. If Waterford win they will probably get 7.
Still hard to guess it's actually been a very open championship but Waterford knocking out Cork,Kilkenny and the up and coming Wexford has been fairly impressive.
WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 13/08/2017 21:38:55
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Off the top of my head the only certs are paudie maher, Jamie Barron, Kevin Moran and conor whelan.
Outside of that I'd imagine Fitzgibbon will get the other midfield spot. Mcinerney will prob get centre back but that could go to de burca if Waterford win.
Noel connors is prob nailed on too and Padraig mannion is in a good position. Joe canning in my opinion as well as Gleeson if he doesn't get suspended anyway need to be man of match in final to get on the team. Canning is about 4th choice galway forward at this stage in the all sstars pecking order. Whelan the two cooneys are certainly ahead of him. As are John McGrath, Moran walsh and even Maurice shanahan. Not to mention Horgan, Lehane and cadogan.
All depends on the final
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 13/08/2017 23:32:59
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Replying To Brianmac78: "Hard to pick but..
Nash
Tuohy
Burke
Connors
Harte
Ellis
Coleman
Barron
Chin
Gleeson
Canning
J Cooney
Whelan
Horgan
C Cooney" Not trying to be smart but I think that's a fairly poor effort!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 13/08/2017 23:34:28
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Replying To tiobraid: "Not trying to be smart but I think that's a fairly poor effort!" Based on what no Tipp men?
Its a poor effort but then you go and list of a heap of names in my team! Odd
Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 14/08/2017 17:35:23
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Replying To tiobraid: "Off the top of my head the only certs are paudie maher, Jamie Barron, Kevin Moran and conor whelan.
Outside of that I'd imagine Fitzgibbon will get the other midfield spot. Mcinerney will prob get centre back but that could go to de burca if Waterford win.
Noel connors is prob nailed on too and Padraig mannion is in a good position. Joe canning in my opinion as well as Gleeson if he doesn't get suspended anyway need to be man of match in final to get on the team. Canning is about 4th choice galway forward at this stage in the all sstars pecking order. Whelan the two cooneys are certainly ahead of him. As are John McGrath, Moran walsh and even Maurice shanahan. Not to mention Horgan, Lehane and cadogan.
All depends on the final" Don't think p Maher is a certainty at all. Tipp beat no-one of note in championship. Mcinerney, mannion are guaranteed in the half back line and then you have one place left for a Waterford half back or Coleman. Barron is hurler of the year so far. Then Conor Whelan.
HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 14/08/2017 17:39:48
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Replying To HurlingSnob: "Don't think p Maher is a certainty at all. Tipp beat no-one of note in championship. Mcinerney, mannion are guaranteed in the half back line and then you have one place left for a Waterford half back or Coleman. Barron is hurler of the year so far. Then Conor Whelan." I'd 100% agree on Barron followed by whelan at this point. Disagree on paidi. If tipp were in the final he'd prob be second or third favourite for hurler of the year. You could argue gakway bear no one of note either considering how poor tipp were all year
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 14/08/2017 22:08:26
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O'Keefe - Waterford
Tuohy - Galway
Burke - Galway
Connors - Waterford
Harte - Galway
Mc Inerney - Galway
Murphy - Wexford
Barron (Hurler of the year) - Waterford
Mc Cormack - Tipp
Chin - Wexford
Canning - Galway
J Cooney - Galway
Whelan - Galway
Horgan - Cork
C Cooney - Galway
Kevin Moran, paudie maher, brick walsh, coleman and nash could all also be in there. I'm surprised to see so little talk of murphy from wexford. I thought he was great this year.
hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 15/08/2017 16:15:46
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Replying To hurlinspuds: "O'Keefe - Waterford
Tuohy - Galway
Burke - Galway
Connors - Waterford
Harte - Galway
Mc Inerney - Galway
Murphy - Wexford
Barron (Hurler of the year) - Waterford
Mc Cormack - Tipp
Chin - Wexford
Canning - Galway
J Cooney - Galway
Whelan - Galway
Horgan - Cork
C Cooney - Galway
Kevin Moran, paudie maher, brick walsh, coleman and nash could all also be in there. I'm surprised to see so little talk of murphy from wexford. I thought he was great this year." Paudie and Kevin Moran walk into that team. You've picked McCormack on one game (albeit was one of the performances of the year) and you've picked canning on 15 mins.
Even Niall Burke has scored a good bit more than canning this year not mention the rest of the Galway forwards.He was also completely marked out of the game by Mathew ohanlon in the Leinster final. Never hit one ball from play.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 15/08/2017 16:59:37
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All Stars so far: The ones with ** after them are ones that I think are guaranteed an All-Star regardless of what happens in the final. Others are subject to change depending on performances or lack of performances in the final.
Nash (The better goalie in the final will almost certainly get it)
Spillane (Wont get one, Hanbury or Touhy, depends on the final)
Burke**
Connors ( Should get one, barring an awful final)
Mannion
McInerney
Coleman
(Incredibly competitive line. Obviously Gleeson could take a spot here. Good performaces Philip Mahony, Darragh Fives, Aidan Harte and possibly even Tadhg De Burca could see them take a spot. Lack of performances could see Padraig Maher take one.)
Gleeson (Position may change and if he misses the final he won't get one, good games from David Burke or Johnny Coen would see them take it. Lee Chin or Kevin Moran could be picked here if the two Galway lads underperform.)
Barron**
J Cooney
Canning**
Kevin Moran
(If Pauric Mahony or Brick Walsh out perform Cooney in the final they could take his spot. Lee Chin also a possibility)
Whelan**
Horgan
C Cooney
(Conor Cooney highly likely but not 100% guaranteed, it would take a very bad performance from him coupled with a huge performance from Brick or Bennett for him not to get one)
Hurling1Guru1 (Galway) - Posts: 244 - 15/08/2017 17:20:25
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Replying To Hurling1Guru1: "All Stars so far: The ones with ** after them are ones that I think are guaranteed an All-Star regardless of what happens in the final. Others are subject to change depending on performances or lack of performances in the final.
Nash (The better goalie in the final will almost certainly get it)
Spillane (Wont get one, Hanbury or Touhy, depends on the final)
Burke**
Connors ( Should get one, barring an awful final)
Mannion
McInerney
Coleman
(Incredibly competitive line. Obviously Gleeson could take a spot here. Good performaces Philip Mahony, Darragh Fives, Aidan Harte and possibly even Tadhg De Burca could see them take a spot. Lack of performances could see Padraig Maher take one.)
Gleeson (Position may change and if he misses the final he won't get one, good games from David Burke or Johnny Coen would see them take it. Lee Chin or Kevin Moran could be picked here if the two Galway lads underperform.)
Barron**
J Cooney
Canning**
Kevin Moran
(If Pauric Mahony or Brick Walsh out perform Cooney in the final they could take his spot. Lee Chin also a possibility)
Whelan**
Horgan
C Cooney
(Conor Cooney highly likely but not 100% guaranteed, it would take a very bad performance from him coupled with a huge performance from Brick or Bennett for him not to get one)" To be honest I don't think any Wexford player did enough consistently this year to be an All Star - Chin was great against Kilkenny but then went missing for a lot of the LF and was out of it against Waterford. The Wexford lads have earned their praise and support for what they did this year but might suit them all better if it was left at that.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1800 - 15/08/2017 17:31:42
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Replying To zinny: " Replying To Hurling1Guru1: "All Stars so far: The ones with ** after them are ones that I think are guaranteed an All-Star regardless of what happens in the final. Others are subject to change depending on performances or lack of performances in the final.
Nash (The better goalie in the final will almost certainly get it)
Spillane (Wont get one, Hanbury or Touhy, depends on the final)
Burke**
Connors ( Should get one, barring an awful final)
Mannion
McInerney
Coleman
(Incredibly competitive line. Obviously Gleeson could take a spot here. Good performaces Philip Mahony, Darragh Fives, Aidan Harte and possibly even Tadhg De Burca could see them take a spot. Lack of performances could see Padraig Maher take one.)
Gleeson (Position may change and if he misses the final he won't get one, good games from David Burke or Johnny Coen would see them take it. Lee Chin or Kevin Moran could be picked here if the two Galway lads underperform.)
Barron**
J Cooney
Canning**
Kevin Moran
(If Pauric Mahony or Brick Walsh out perform Cooney in the final they could take his spot. Lee Chin also a possibility)
Whelan**
Horgan
C Cooney
(Conor Cooney highly likely but not 100% guaranteed, it would take a very bad performance from him coupled with a huge performance from Brick or Bennett for him not to get one)" To be honest I don't think any Wexford player did enough consistently this year to be an All Star - Chin was great against Kilkenny but then went missing for a lot of the LF and was out of it against Waterford. The Wexford lads have earned their praise and support for what they did this year but might suit them all better if it was left at that."
Hurling1Guru1 (Galway) - Posts: 244 - 15/08/2017 17:39:00
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Wexford have a centre back in the form of Matthew O Hanlon who had an outstanding league campaign and then went on in the championship to mark Walter Walsh, Joe Canning and Austin Gleeson holding all 3 of them to a total of 2 points from play whilst contributing 3 points from play himself.
If that's not a real candidate for an all star I'm not sure what is?
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1328 - 15/08/2017 18:32:42
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Replying To tiobraid: "Off the top of my head the only certs are paudie maher, Jamie Barron, Kevin Moran and conor whelan.
Outside of that I'd imagine Fitzgibbon will get the other midfield spot. Mcinerney will prob get centre back but that could go to de burca if Waterford win.
Noel connors is prob nailed on too and Padraig mannion is in a good position. Joe canning in my opinion as well as Gleeson if he doesn't get suspended anyway need to be man of match in final to get on the team. Canning is about 4th choice galway forward at this stage in the all sstars pecking order. Whelan the two cooneys are certainly ahead of him. As are John McGrath, Moran walsh and even Maurice shanahan. Not to mention Horgan, Lehane and cadogan.
All depends on the final" My 2 cents..I think tiobraid has it pretty close with his assessment...but as mentioned, a lot depends on the final..
hannigantiptoe (Roscommon) - Posts: 39 - 15/08/2017 18:48:19
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Would say Matthew O'Hanlon is more deserving than Chin myself.
Jamie Barron is a cert for HOTY if Waterford win the All-Ireland, I think Conor Whelan is the pick of the bunch otherwise.
Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 15/08/2017 19:23:45
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Replying To tearintom: "Wexford have a centre back in the form of Matthew O Hanlon who had an outstanding league campaign and then went on in the championship to mark Walter Walsh, Joe Canning and Austin Gleeson holding all 3 of them to a total of 2 points from play whilst contributing 3 points from play himself.
If that's not a real candidate for an all star I'm not sure what is?" An Alll Star candidate is someone who is hyped up by the media regardless of how well they play!
You're spot on with O'Hanlon. People have Canning nailed on but he never got one ball in his hand in the Leinster final never mind scoring.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 16/08/2017 10:42:23
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Replying To tiobraid: "An Alll Star candidate is someone who is hyped up by the media regardless of how well they play!
You're spot on with O'Hanlon. People have Canning nailed on but he never got one ball in his hand in the Leinster final never mind scoring." tommy doyle of westmeath kept seamie callanan scoreless from play in qualifier it is time he was honoured
mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1799 - 16/08/2017 12:10:40
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