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Replying To Richieq: "Your user name is a contradiction in the extreme......" Richieq. With respect you can say what you like. But let's deal in some facts.
1. Meath have no money
2. House draw has made no money if any real substance
3. County board waiting on a massive handout from government to start this project that they want
Now whether you want to believe it or not there is a a quote to renovate the main stand . So you can jump on the hype about an all seater stadium or get with reality.
Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 31/12/2019 01:25:06
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Replying To Royalio11: "I know everyone is entitled to their opinions but some of the waffle being dished out on this matter would make you want to walk into a wall repeatedly.
First thing is first. Existing stadium not fit for purpose.
GAA Hq have earmarked Navan for redevelopment. The 20,000 seater stadium "masterplan" is the final end product. The planning permission is a 10-year permission to allow such. The idea is that Pairc Tailteann will be the No. 2 venue in Leinster and therefore taking over from Portlaoise. Therefore the venue will host 2 more neutral leinster fixtures and will be a venue for Super 8 and Round 4 qualifier matches.
The all-seater ideal is the safeguarding of stadia into the future and enabling the ground as a multi-purpose arena. Not just Meath GAA. A multi-purpose use.
The stand cannot be the first part to go as it holds the existing changing rooms/medical facilities/media area toilets and seating. If that gets demolished first as part of an 18 month project then you have to try accommodate the loss of the facilities.
Greenfield site is ridiculous. The extent of so called dead work and provision of service infrastructure would be in the millions before you even turn a sod for a stadium.
The project, if anyone cared to notice includes for a town enhancement scheme bringing retail use up to the Brews Hill area and would benefit Navan. Moving a stadium away to a Greenfield site is utterly ridiculous and cannot be entertained with a justification.
Look beyond the redevelopment as a club/county matter and see the potential this redevelopment could bring" Here's waffle for you...
A 20,000 seater stadium will cost close to 50 million euros. Where are Meath GAA going to get that money from? And within 10 years?
How is Pairc Tailteann not fit for purpose? It's rarely full (about once every 3 years max if there is a huge qualifier there - like Tyrone last year).
Retail use to Brews Hill area? Navan isn't exactly Beverley Hills...so let's bankrupt the county to put in another TK Max and a Penney's, super stuff!
Multi purpose arena you say? So can Dundalk use it for European games? No? Will there be a track around it so the stadium can be a national athletics track and hold international events? No! Oh you mean Foster and Allen and Charlie Landsboro will play there, is it? They'll fill out 20,000? Maybe u2 and Rihanna could come? Fill out Navan!!! And we could build a monorail as well to transport the fans!
Any concert that would fill more than a 1000 is held in the multiple concert venues in up the road in Dublin, otherwise you've the Ardboyne, Newgrange for Foster and Allen. To say that PT will hold major concerts and wash its face with any proceeds is laughable.
So tell me why we need to spend 50 million euro in next ten years for? For Ratoath and Summerhill county finals that attract about 4k? For National league matches that hold 5/6k?
There's a few dangerous fools around the place. Bored and losing the run of themselves. If the GAA want to build a white elephant in Navan, let them build it and pay for it themselves.
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Replying To Talking_Sense: "Richieq. With respect you can say what you like. But let's deal in some facts.
1. Meath have no money
2. House draw has made no money if any real substance
3. County board waiting on a massive handout from government to start this project that they want
Now whether you want to believe it or not there is a a quote to renovate the main stand . So you can jump on the hype about an all seater stadium or get with reality." Where's the proof of this quote
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 31/12/2019 11:34:42
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Replying To Crinigan: "Here's waffle for you...
A 20,000 seater stadium will cost close to 50 million euros. Where are Meath GAA going to get that money from? And within 10 years?
How is Pairc Tailteann not fit for purpose? It's rarely full (about once every 3 years max if there is a huge qualifier there - like Tyrone last year).
Retail use to Brews Hill area? Navan isn't exactly Beverley Hills...so let's bankrupt the county to put in another TK Max and a Penney's, super stuff!
Multi purpose arena you say? So can Dundalk use it for European games? No? Will there be a track around it so the stadium can be a national athletics track and hold international events? No! Oh you mean Foster and Allen and Charlie Landsboro will play there, is it? They'll fill out 20,000? Maybe u2 and Rihanna could come? Fill out Navan!!! And we could build a monorail as well to transport the fans!
Any concert that would fill more than a 1000 is held in the multiple concert venues in up the road in Dublin, otherwise you've the Ardboyne, Newgrange for Foster and Allen. To say that PT will hold major concerts and wash its face with any proceeds is laughable.
So tell me why we need to spend 50 million euro in next ten years for? For Ratoath and Summerhill county finals that attract about 4k? For National league matches that hold 5/6k?
There's a few dangerous fools around the place. Bored and losing the run of themselves. If the GAA want to build a white elephant in Navan, let them build it and pay for it themselves." What an irrational response. You have just ran wildly away with your own wild theories.
Where did this figure of €50 million come from? That's a number plucked out of the sky.
Meath GAA are not and never were going to foot the construction cost of the stadium. For the first phase, a considerable amount is being provided in Capital Sport Grants. That is the money that is waiting on for release. GAA HQ, who again I will say have this project listed, on record, as No.1 priority will be forwarding funds to assist the redevelopment.
Meath GAA are responsible for a proportion of fundraising as they cannot expect to carry no costs. Meath GAA are not footing the entire bill which is not going to be 50 million. Your imagination gone wild.
How is Pairc Tailteann not fit for purpose? I was surprised that you decided to take this point head on but then again going by the rest of the stuff you said I am now not surprised at all. Your imagination gone wild.
The stadium is crumbling. It is literally falling apart. Two grass banks behind either goal, a terrace which had to have emergency barriers erected to safelly contain crowds, a stand with an asbestos roof, wooden benches, steep narrow steps, supports that block views to the pitch. The stand vibrates when there is a crowd on it. The entire place is a health hazard which is the reason more games are not held there.
Navan is not Beverly Hills. Who said it was? Who said it wants to be? The redevelopment along Brews Hill will bring a retail element along the street to enhance that section of Navan. There are currently no shops at Pairc Tailteann. The redevelopment will support a number of cafes/restaurants/sport shop etc. That would be fantastic for supporting people at games and events and bring additional money to Navan. There is no such talk of Penneys or TK Maxx type stores. Your imagination gone wild again.
If a place currently has zero retail/business and a redevelopment provides 3-4 units. That is a major benefit.
The use of the redevelopment will be to support non-GAA events. That is clear in the HQ report. I dont know where you grabbed Dundalk playing soccer matches at Pairc Tailteann from? Why would there be soccer matches there? Foster and Allen? Rihanna? U2? What kind of rubbish are you making up here? Your imagination gone wild again.
Kilkenny had Bob Dylan and Neil Young play there to sold out crowds. Dolly Parton the year before. The GAA support concerts at their venues. A redeveloped stadium that is top of its class will result in such events being directed to Pairc Tailteann. The GAA will pocket returns on this and the economy of the County will benefit by hotels/Bbs/pubs/restaurants etc. That's generally how concerts work. I never said Pairc Tailteann would gain all the proceeds? You are mixing in fiction there.
There is no monorail or running track proposed as part of the redevelopment. Again this is something you have made up to appear funny but it really only shows you have a wild imagination.
Any county final in any county never fills a county ground. That's Ireland. That's local GAA. I dont think anyone sweats when the Limerick Football County Final is played in the Gaelic Grounds in front of 1,500 people or the same in Semple Stadium. The redevelopment of Pairc Tailteann is not being built to allow for accommodation of club games only. Remember "bigger picture".
I am not surprised you made no response to the additional Leinster games/qualifier games/super 8 games to be played in Pairc Tailteann. That is part of the redevelopment. The ground will host extra inter-county games.
The so-called 'dangerous fools' you allude to will not be allowed to waste Captial Sport Grant money which will need to be accounted for down to the last cent. Same can be said for GAA HQ.
It would appear however that 'dangerous fools' with wild imaginations go hand in hand.
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Where's the proof of this quote" I would have to say all points are spot on and very accurate.
Accounts released to clubs and Séamus kenny article in chronicle world backup them up.
Championship ( club) not starting until August will leave a big hole at start of year.
No sponsor for hurling team , Christy ring winners !!!!
What is Séamus kenny doing?
Overspending on a pipe dream of a all seater stadium led by Noel Dempsey thy that has a history of wasteful spending in his government term.
Clubs need to take back control of county committee.
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Where's the proof of this quote" New county chairman admitted at the convention that ticket sales fell well short. I am informed 5 to 8 thousand depending on who I'm talking to.
The financial report was pretty dambing to say the least. That's the proof what more do you need.
latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 31/12/2019 15:45:16
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Replying To Boynerover: "I would have to say all points are spot on and very accurate.
Accounts released to clubs and Séamus kenny article in chronicle world backup them up.
Championship ( club) not starting until August will leave a big hole at start of year.
No sponsor for hurling team , Christy ring winners !!!!
What is Séamus kenny doing?
Overspending on a pipe dream of a all seater stadium led by Noel Dempsey thy that has a history of wasteful spending in his government term.
Clubs need to take back control of county committee." Just looking for evidence that there's a quote for renovation of the stand for Pairc Tailteann. If somebody could tell me where it was I'd appreciate it. Until then I'll assume it was made up
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 31/12/2019 16:34:16
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Replying To Royalio11: "What an irrational response. You have just ran wildly away with your own wild theories.
Where did this figure of €50 million come from? That's a number plucked out of the sky.
Meath GAA are not and never were going to foot the construction cost of the stadium. For the first phase, a considerable amount is being provided in Capital Sport Grants. That is the money that is waiting on for release. GAA HQ, who again I will say have this project listed, on record, as No.1 priority will be forwarding funds to assist the redevelopment.
Meath GAA are responsible for a proportion of fundraising as they cannot expect to carry no costs. Meath GAA are not footing the entire bill which is not going to be 50 million. Your imagination gone wild.
How is Pairc Tailteann not fit for purpose? I was surprised that you decided to take this point head on but then again going by the rest of the stuff you said I am now not surprised at all. Your imagination gone wild.
The stadium is crumbling. It is literally falling apart. Two grass banks behind either goal, a terrace which had to have emergency barriers erected to safelly contain crowds, a stand with an asbestos roof, wooden benches, steep narrow steps, supports that block views to the pitch. The stand vibrates when there is a crowd on it. The entire place is a health hazard which is the reason more games are not held there.
Navan is not Beverly Hills. Who said it was? Who said it wants to be? The redevelopment along Brews Hill will bring a retail element along the street to enhance that section of Navan. There are currently no shops at Pairc Tailteann. The redevelopment will support a number of cafes/restaurants/sport shop etc. That would be fantastic for supporting people at games and events and bring additional money to Navan. There is no such talk of Penneys or TK Maxx type stores. Your imagination gone wild again.
If a place currently has zero retail/business and a redevelopment provides 3-4 units. That is a major benefit.
The use of the redevelopment will be to support non-GAA events. That is clear in the HQ report. I dont know where you grabbed Dundalk playing soccer matches at Pairc Tailteann from? Why would there be soccer matches there? Foster and Allen? Rihanna? U2? What kind of rubbish are you making up here? Your imagination gone wild again.
Kilkenny had Bob Dylan and Neil Young play there to sold out crowds. Dolly Parton the year before. The GAA support concerts at their venues. A redeveloped stadium that is top of its class will result in such events being directed to Pairc Tailteann. The GAA will pocket returns on this and the economy of the County will benefit by hotels/Bbs/pubs/restaurants etc. That's generally how concerts work. I never said Pairc Tailteann would gain all the proceeds? You are mixing in fiction there.
There is no monorail or running track proposed as part of the redevelopment. Again this is something you have made up to appear funny but it really only shows you have a wild imagination.
Any county final in any county never fills a county ground. That's Ireland. That's local GAA. I dont think anyone sweats when the Limerick Football County Final is played in the Gaelic Grounds in front of 1,500 people or the same in Semple Stadium. The redevelopment of Pairc Tailteann is not being built to allow for accommodation of club games only. Remember "bigger picture".
I am not surprised you made no response to the additional Leinster games/qualifier games/super 8 games to be played in Pairc Tailteann. That is part of the redevelopment. The ground will host extra inter-county games.
The so-called 'dangerous fools' you allude to will not be allowed to waste Captial Sport Grant money which will need to be accounted for down to the last cent. Same can be said for GAA HQ.
It would appear however that 'dangerous fools' with wild imaginations go hand in hand." One stand is rumored to cost between 10 and 14 million euros. Therefore 4 stands will cost....I'll let you do the maths.
Qualifiers and super 8s mean fk all in terms of the financials. That's only two games a year to contribute towards paying for the thing.
You are living in dream land while rest of us are living in the world of banking and finance - loans from financial institutions don't come free and they have to be repaid. You need certainties, not its or maybes.
Seems I was being optimistic saying Penney's and TK Maxx. They would actually be able to pay the rent. A sports shop (how many of those have we seen close down in recent years) and a café/restaurant (how much are scones these days?) aren't exactly reliable money-makers are they? At least one anchor tenant would be needed to ensure any retail rental income is worth talking to a financial institution about . Not fly by night sports shops and Rosie's cafe.
You refer to the Gaelic Grounds as if it's an example to be held up. It was the ultimate white elephant until Pairc Ui C was built.
Again, unless the GAA and Shane Ross are footing the bill for at least 95% of this thing (which they won't be), forget about it. We can't afford it and the county shouldn't be saddled with huge debt for future generations to repay, all for a vanity stadium that isn't needed.
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1316 - 31/12/2019 17:11:33
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Just looking for evidence that there's a quote for renovation of the stand for Pairc Tailteann. If somebody could tell me where it was I'd appreciate it. Until then I'll assume it was made up" Put it to the County Committee. They I am sure will fill you in on the quote
Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 31/12/2019 19:05:04
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Have we spent close to €1 million on preparations for a new stand in which 1/3 of this money we could have renovated existing stand to last another 10-15 years.
Were the clubs misled or did they even know?
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Replying To Talking_Sense: "Put it to the County Committee. They I am sure will fill you in on the quote" Yes there is a quote for the renovation of the stand.
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Replying To latouche25: "Yes there is a quote for the renovation of the stand." From who? What meeting? What article??
Surely if it is widely available someone can point to the source??
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/01/2020 09:46:50
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Let me be clear I'm not getting involved in all this nonsense about greenfield sites and how a one stand renovation is all we need.
The only thing I will say and that seems to be accepted by all is that the existing stand must go, that is going to be expensive no matter what, why? Asbestos. The cost of the removal is extremely high. Now not the millions that someone said here before. But by Jasus it is expensive to remove, it has to be taken down one sheet at a time, inspections must be done on it by guys in suits (about 4) then it has to be sealed and shipped to Scotland. So regardless of anyone saying anything, as soon as that stand is touched you talking telephone numbers.
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Replying To royaldunne: "From who? What meeting? What article??
Surely if it is widely available someone can point to the source??" It's in interview on last week's Meath Chronicle
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Replying To royaldunne: "Let me be clear I'm not getting involved in all this nonsense about greenfield sites and how a one stand renovation is all we need.
The only thing I will say and that seems to be accepted by all is that the existing stand must go, that is going to be expensive no matter what, why? Asbestos. The cost of the removal is extremely high. Now not the millions that someone said here before. But by Jasus it is expensive to remove, it has to be taken down one sheet at a time, inspections must be done on it by guys in suits (about 4) then it has to be sealed and shipped to Scotland. So regardless of anyone saying anything, as soon as that stand is touched you talking telephone numbers." The quote is to leave the stand alone. Just renovate the dressing rooms and some other remedial work. The old executive have the quote
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Replying To latouche25: "The quote is to leave the stand alone. Just renovate the dressing rooms and some other remedial work. The old executive have the quote" Thanks latouche25, amazing how folk have fallen for this pipe dream of a stadium costing about 50million. The money the Meath County Board have spent on this pipe dream project is just outrageous. They will renovate the stand because that is all we can afford.
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Replying To Talking_Sense: "Thanks latouche25, amazing how folk have fallen for this pipe dream of a stadium costing about 50million. The money the Meath County Board have spent on this pipe dream project is just outrageous. They will renovate the stand because that is all we can afford." Not really into the whole seater thing myself, don't care once the job is done. But that stand is not fit for use. I'm not only talking about the toilets or media , the seating is diabolical and it is not sheltered enough either. It has to go. Otherwise we will see no improvement. Don't think we can just tinker with it. Needs to totally demolished and a new one built. Anything else is pointless.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/01/2020 23:53:04
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Jesus once again the old negativity that rears its head in this county every now and then comes to the fore, if seems no matter what you do in a positive sense someone will be here to sh*t all over it and term it as nonsense, well here are a few things to think about;
A renovated and fit for purpose PT will see a lot more games than it does now and there was a commitment to that from both Leinster & Central Councils, the games between Monaghan & Laois and Kildare v Fermanagh were a taster of what PT could get regularly if renovated properly
Two parts of the ground are officially closed, being the grass banks, one is decrepit and borderline dangerous, being the stand, and one is a basic 32 years old terrace. If those facts don't justify a redevelopment I don't know what will
There is talk that as part of the initial contract of Phase 1 (7000 stand on terrace side) that some remedial works would be done to the existing stand, I heard this would involve installing new seating, which could be reused again in a new structure, and some toilet improvements as well as to the fabric of the stand I.e. filling cracks in plaster and concrete repairs. The existing stand is not to be renovated or left in place long term and it is hoped that work would commence on that side 2-3 years after completion of the north stand.
We may never see an all seater stadium in PT, you always aim high and rightly so but I have a feeling that two 7000 stands either side and two proper terraces on the grass banks are what we will see and I think all would be satisfied with that.
Financial consideration has been at the great of this project, the size of Phase 1 depends on money received, and either part of a stand (4000 seats) or a full stand (7000) will be build depending on how much is received, the board were confident that they would receive enough to build an entire stage as the powers that be were very impressed with the plan and the potential benefits of it, it's a disgrace that the county board have been left this long for that decision to be made
People are basing crowds in PT in recent years when Meath were struggling on the field, in recent years when the stadium fell out of favour for neutral fixtures due to concern over the Slattery report and a capacity cut, in recent years when we lost floodlights. I can remember days in Division 1 and days in the 80's, 90's and into the 00's when we had big crowds because the team was successful and competitive, I can remember league playoff games like Kildare v Leitrim in 1990 that near packed the place out. People must be very pessimistic about Meath's chances of improving if they can't see us command bigger attendance's in years ahead. A fit for purpose PT will see games and plenty of them both with Meath and neutral fixtures, stand still and we will be bypassed just as Tuam Stadium was and Dr Hyde Park is now, when I see the final figures on the house draw I'll comment on that but all I know is what I done at the start was I bought the three ticket draw for the discount price, I thought positive and wanted to help the plan and I done my bit, positive thinking and thinking based on common sense is something that could, and should, be taught to many about here
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Replying To Richieq: "Jesus once again the old negativity that rears its head in this county every now and then comes to the fore, if seems no matter what you do in a positive sense someone will be here to sh*t all over it and term it as nonsense, well here are a few things to think about;
A renovated and fit for purpose PT will see a lot more games than it does now and there was a commitment to that from both Leinster & Central Councils, the games between Monaghan & Laois and Kildare v Fermanagh were a taster of what PT could get regularly if renovated properly
Two parts of the ground are officially closed, being the grass banks, one is decrepit and borderline dangerous, being the stand, and one is a basic 32 years old terrace. If those facts don't justify a redevelopment I don't know what will
There is talk that as part of the initial contract of Phase 1 (7000 stand on terrace side) that some remedial works would be done to the existing stand, I heard this would involve installing new seating, which could be reused again in a new structure, and some toilet improvements as well as to the fabric of the stand I.e. filling cracks in plaster and concrete repairs. The existing stand is not to be renovated or left in place long term and it is hoped that work would commence on that side 2-3 years after completion of the north stand.
We may never see an all seater stadium in PT, you always aim high and rightly so but I have a feeling that two 7000 stands either side and two proper terraces on the grass banks are what we will see and I think all would be satisfied with that.
Financial consideration has been at the great of this project, the size of Phase 1 depends on money received, and either part of a stand (4000 seats) or a full stand (7000) will be build depending on how much is received, the board were confident that they would receive enough to build an entire stage as the powers that be were very impressed with the plan and the potential benefits of it, it's a disgrace that the county board have been left this long for that decision to be made
People are basing crowds in PT in recent years when Meath were struggling on the field, in recent years when the stadium fell out of favour for neutral fixtures due to concern over the Slattery report and a capacity cut, in recent years when we lost floodlights. I can remember days in Division 1 and days in the 80's, 90's and into the 00's when we had big crowds because the team was successful and competitive, I can remember league playoff games like Kildare v Leitrim in 1990 that near packed the place out. People must be very pessimistic about Meath's chances of improving if they can't see us command bigger attendance's in years ahead. A fit for purpose PT will see games and plenty of them both with Meath and neutral fixtures, stand still and we will be bypassed just as Tuam Stadium was and Dr Hyde Park is now, when I see the final figures on the house draw I'll comment on that but all I know is what I done at the start was I bought the three ticket draw for the discount price, I thought positive and wanted to help the plan and I done my bit, positive thinking and thinking based on common sense is something that could, and should, be taught to many about here" Why are you being all high and mighty? Do you think those of us who are "sh*ttingt all over it" want to sh*t all over it? If we can't afford it then we cant afford it. I don't think its negativity, we would all love a modern Pairc Tailteann with a cool bespoke design, the kind of stadium you would go to a match in just so you could enjoy the stadium.
BUT it looks like we just don't have enough money for it and if so, I'd rather we took a prudent approach and kept our money in our pocket.
It's probably best if we all just park commentary on the whole redevelopment until we know exactly how much the GAA and Shane Ross are going to put towards it.
Leo Varadkar was at the Kerry match last year where we had close to a full house, maybe he'll throw the county a bone and make up for the lack of a functioning railway line between Navan and Dublin.
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A renovated and fit for purpose PT will see a lot more games than it does now and there was a commitment to that from both Leinster & Central Councils, the games between Monaghan & Laois and Kildare v Fermanagh were a taster of what PT could get regularly if renovated properly
Two parts of the ground are officially closed, being the grass banks, one is decrepit and borderline dangerous, being the stand, and one is a basic 32 years old terrace. If those facts don't justify a redevelopment I don't know what will
There is talk that as part of the initial contract of Phase 1 (7000 stand on terrace side) that some remedial works would be done to the existing stand, I heard this would involve installing new seating, which could be reused again in a new structure, and some toilet improvements as well as to the fabric of the stand I.e. filling cracks in plaster and concrete repairs. The existing stand is not to be renovated or left in place long term and it is hoped that work would commence on that side 2-3 years after completion of the north stand.
We may never see an all seater stadium in PT, you always aim high and rightly so but I have a feeling that two 7000 stands either side and two proper terraces on the grass banks are what we will see and I think all would be satisfied with that.
Financial consideration has been at the great of this project, the size of Phase 1 depends on money received, and either part of a stand (4000 seats) or a full stand (7000) will be build depending on how much is received, the board were confident that they would receive enough to build an entire stage as the powers that be were very impressed with the plan and the potential benefits of it, it's a disgrace that the county board have been left this long for that decision to be made
People are basing crowds in PT in recent years when Meath were struggling on the field, in recent years when the stadium fell out of favour for neutral fixtures due to concern over the Slattery report and a capacity cut, in recent years when we lost floodlights. I can remember days in Division 1 and days in the 80's, 90's and into the 00's when we had big crowds because the team was successful and competitive, I can remember league playoff games like Kildare v Leitrim in 1990 that near packed the place out. People must be very pessimistic about Meath's chances of improving if they can't see us command bigger attendance's in years ahead. A fit for purpose PT will see games and plenty of them both with Meath and neutral fixtures, stand still and we will be bypassed just as Tuam Stadium was and Dr Hyde Park is now, when I see the final figures on the house draw I'll comment on that but all I know is what I done at the start was I bought the three ticket draw for the discount price, I thought positive and wanted to help the plan and I done my bit, positive thinking and thinking based on common sense is something that could, and should, be taught to many about here" Well said.
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