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I haven't read the messages above so apologies if this has already been stated.
As time moves on I think we have to revisit decisions that were taken previously. It is highly likely that we will see no football this year at all.
On the intercounty scene it's now time for the GAA to declare the national leagues based on the current tables:
Division 1 Winners Galway. Mayo and Meath Relegated to Division 2 for 2021
Division 2 Winners Armagh. Roscommon promoted along with Armagh to Div 1. Fermanagh and Clare relegated.
Division 3 Winners Cork. Longford promoted along with Cork. Leitrim and Louth relegated.
Division 4 Winners Limerick. Antrim promoted along with Limerick.
It's not ideal and there will be counties feeling hard done by however there can be no arguments that these promotions and relegations are based on what happened on the pitch and that is how it should be.
It this decision was taken at least we will have finalised the 'current' competition and should it be possible to play any other football this year, we can go straight into a championship of some sort - personally I'd favour an old school straight championship, no backdoor, four provincial winners meeting in the All-Ireland semifinals. But if we can't do it then so be it.
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Replying To Rolo2010: "Finishing the Leagues gives us somewhere to start next year. Squeezing a Championship into winter is not feasible." That's reasonable I suppose.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2111 - 15/05/2020 22:25:40
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Replying To Rolo2010: "Finishing the Leagues gives us somewhere to start next year. Squeezing a Championship into winter is not feasible." Ide rather see half finished tournaments completed than starting new ones too
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 16/05/2020 00:40:34
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Replying To theyoungbuck89: "The Fai have said all amateur and underage And womens teams can return to full collective training from August 10th and resume games from August 28th on but lads on here are ruling out a return at all for the rest of the season!" Thanks for that, I take it all back, there should defo be championship now.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7882 - 16/05/2020 04:37:43
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Replying To TheFlaker: "Thanks for that, I take it all back, there should defo be championship now." Yeah you're right actually we should forget about it until next year tell club players to keep themselves in "shape" that there might be a game for them at some stage before Christmas 2021
theyoungbuck89 (Galway) - Posts: 59 - 16/05/2020 10:15:41
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Replying To Lockjaw: "But noone is "cowering in their homes" as you put it. Ok the over 70s up to now have been asked to stay at home but it's not like they've been forgotten about." OK - if you think we can carry on for ever as we are, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion.
lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 475 - 16/05/2020 10:19:03
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Replying To ShinerMackey: "I haven't read the messages above so apologies if this has already been stated.
As time moves on I think we have to revisit decisions that were taken previously. It is highly likely that we will see no football this year at all.
On the intercounty scene it's now time for the GAA to declare the national leagues based on the current tables:
Division 1 Winners Galway. Mayo and Meath Relegated to Division 2 for 2021
Division 2 Winners Armagh. Roscommon promoted along with Armagh to Div 1. Fermanagh and Clare relegated.
Division 3 Winners Cork. Longford promoted along with Cork. Leitrim and Louth relegated.
Division 4 Winners Limerick. Antrim promoted along with Limerick.
It's not ideal and there will be counties feeling hard done by however there can be no arguments that these promotions and relegations are based on what happened on the pitch and that is how it should be.
It this decision was taken at least we will have finalised the 'current' competition and should it be possible to play any other football this year, we can go straight into a championship of some sort - personally I'd favour an old school straight championship, no backdoor, four provincial winners meeting in the All-Ireland semifinals. But if we can't do it then so be it." There will be no football this year as social distancing will remain until we have a vaccine or treatment...the start of the 2021 leagues are are big doubt in my opinion.
Why not try finish the current league next spring? Would u let the score in a game stand if it was abandoned at half time?
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11225 - 16/05/2020 10:30:17
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Replying To yew_tree: "There will be no football this year as social distancing will remain until we have a vaccine or treatment...the start of the 2021 leagues are are big doubt in my opinion.
Why not try finish the current league next spring? Would u let the score in a game stand if it was abandoned at half time?" thanks for that doctor Fauci. at least now the players can enjoy themselves.
munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1094 - 16/05/2020 11:21:43
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Replying To lionofludesch: "OK - if you think we can carry on for ever as we are, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion." Who mentioned forever?
I know some tough economic decisions will be necessary but suggesting that people will cower in their homes with nothing to eat is over the top hyperbole.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9104 - 16/05/2020 12:42:57
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Replying To ShinerMackey: "I haven't read the messages above so apologies if this has already been stated.
As time moves on I think we have to revisit decisions that were taken previously. It is highly likely that we will see no football this year at all.
On the intercounty scene it's now time for the GAA to declare the national leagues based on the current tables:
Division 1 Winners Galway. Mayo and Meath Relegated to Division 2 for 2021
Division 2 Winners Armagh. Roscommon promoted along with Armagh to Div 1. Fermanagh and Clare relegated.
Division 3 Winners Cork. Longford promoted along with Cork. Leitrim and Louth relegated.
Division 4 Winners Limerick. Antrim promoted along with Limerick.
It's not ideal and there will be counties feeling hard done by however there can be no arguments that these promotions and relegations are based on what happened on the pitch and that is how it should be.
It this decision was taken at least we will have finalised the 'current' competition and should it be possible to play any other football this year, we can go straight into a championship of some sort - personally I'd favour an old school straight championship, no backdoor, four provincial winners meeting in the All-Ireland semifinals. But if we can't do it then so be it." personally would like to see league finished even behind closed doors as only 2 games left ( forget finals ).
Just one thing Down our second in div 3 not longford as they have beat them.
Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 703 - 16/05/2020 13:03:14
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Replying To munsterchamps: "thanks for that doctor Fauci. at least now the players can enjoy themselves." No need for the smart Alex reply. It seems that's all you do in here. It's my opinion....this is an Internet forum after all.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11225 - 16/05/2020 13:16:25
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Replying To theyoungbuck89: "Yeah you're right actually we should forget about it until next year tell club players to keep themselves in "shape" that there might be a game for them at some stage before Christmas 2021" Good man, good stuff. Keep up the good work. Thanks.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7882 - 16/05/2020 13:35:24
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Replying To TheFlaker: "Thanks for that, I take it all back, there should defo be championship now." https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/expert-panel-set-up-to-help-irish-sports-prepare-for-return-after-lockdown-exit-999931.html.
I presume you're on this panel TheFlaker?
theyoungbuck89 (Galway) - Posts: 59 - 16/05/2020 14:17:59
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Replying To yew_tree: "There will be no football this year as social distancing will remain until we have a vaccine or treatment...the start of the 2021 leagues are are big doubt in my opinion.
Why not try finish the current league next spring? Would u let the score in a game stand if it was abandoned at half time?" If you think there will be no more football until next year then all the more reason to declare the leagues now.
The analogy of stopping a game at half time doesn't stand up. We have played 5 out of 7 league rounds, that's over 70%, the league tables reflect the outcome of those games. While it is not perfect it is fair and it is based on the football that took place.
Leaving the last two rounds of the 2020 league until 2021 would only mess up two seasons instead of one. You would either be squeezing two more highly competitive games into an already tight schedule or you would have to amend next years competitions.
Plus teams wouldn't know what league they were in until those two rounds were completed. So there would be no fixture planning for 2021 until a week or so before the league was due to start - impossible to coordinate.
We have to take our medicine. Declare the leagues now and accept that there will probably be no intercounty games until 2021. Clean slate.
ShinerMackey (Tyrone) - Posts: 14 - 16/05/2020 14:29:10
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Replying To ShinerMackey: "I haven't read the messages above so apologies if this has already been stated.
As time moves on I think we have to revisit decisions that were taken previously. It is highly likely that we will see no football this year at all.
On the intercounty scene it's now time for the GAA to declare the national leagues based on the current tables:
Division 1 Winners Galway. Mayo and Meath Relegated to Division 2 for 2021
Division 2 Winners Armagh. Roscommon promoted along with Armagh to Div 1. Fermanagh and Clare relegated.
Division 3 Winners Cork. Longford promoted along with Cork. Leitrim and Louth relegated.
Division 4 Winners Limerick. Antrim promoted along with Limerick.
It's not ideal and there will be counties feeling hard done by however there can be no arguments that these promotions and relegations are based on what happened on the pitch and that is how it should be.
It this decision was taken at least we will have finalised the 'current' competition and should it be possible to play any other football this year, we can go straight into a championship of some sort - personally I'd favour an old school straight championship, no backdoor, four provincial winners meeting in the All-Ireland semifinals. But if we can't do it then so be it." I wouldnt have teams relegated based on incomplete seasons. Just void the competitions unless there is plans to finish off games at later dates. That's been practice in large number of competitions both here in Ireland and abroad
Very tough to decide winners on incomplete games and teams have valid reasons to object.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 16/05/2020 14:47:50
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Replying To theyoungbuck89: "https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/expert-panel-set-up-to-help-irish-sports-prepare-for-return-after-lockdown-exit-999931.html.
I presume you're on this panel TheFlaker?" Gas man, brilliant stuff. Thanks
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7882 - 16/05/2020 15:53:06
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Replying To KillingFields: "I wouldnt have teams relegated based on incomplete seasons. Just void the competitions unless there is plans to finish off games at later dates. That's been practice in large number of competitions both here in Ireland and abroad
Very tough to decide winners on incomplete games and teams have valid reasons to object." It isn't a question of just voiding competitions like that.Voiding competitions is very unfair when a lot of the programme of matches has been completed.For example it would be totally unfair on Liverpool or on Celtic to void the respective premiership and spl competitions.The National football League was down to it's penultimate stage.If there can be no further gaa matches in 2020, perhaps the National League could take up in Spring 2021 from where it left off and complete in Spring 2021 the League that started in January 2020.That may be the fairest thing to do if it's possible.The fairest to teams in line for promotion and fairest to teams at risk of relegation based on current table standings.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2154 - 16/05/2020 16:04:23
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Replying To yew_tree: "There will be no football this year as social distancing will remain until we have a vaccine or treatment...the start of the 2021 leagues are are big doubt in my opinion.
Why not try finish the current league next spring? Would u let the score in a game stand if it was abandoned at half time?" Well should there be Rugby and Football. There is sfa social distancing in Rugby. I mean look at scrums, you are wrapped around another beefy fellow. At least in GAA it is mostly individuals. The Bundesliga restarted today. Behind closed doors. It was a bit erie but it was ok.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 16/05/2020 20:11:30
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Replying To KillingFields: "I wouldnt have teams relegated based on incomplete seasons. Just void the competitions unless there is plans to finish off games at later dates. That's been practice in large number of competitions both here in Ireland and abroad
Very tough to decide winners on incomplete games and teams have valid reasons to object." They should finish the Allianz leagues. Also play club games. Allianz league is a good competition. Forget the Championship this year.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 16/05/2020 20:12:45
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Replying To galwayford: "They should finish the Allianz leagues. Also play club games. Allianz league is a good competition. Forget the Championship this year." I agree and disagree with you. I disagree because the Championship is far more prestigious but I agree with you in just completing what was already started.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2111 - 16/05/2020 21:48:01
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