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Will Offensive Mark Favour Some Counties

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Stephen O'Brien quoted in the Times today, says the offensive mark will be no advantage to Kerry as their forwards are of such quality that when they get the ball they score anyhow. All-Ireland final replay Kerry, 25 attempts 10 wides, maybe Kerry should prioritise the mark, might bring their score to shot ratio closer to an acceptable "mark"???

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 674 - 10/01/2020 13:14:43    2258702

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Stephen O'Brien quoted in the Times today, says the offensive mark will be no advantage to Kerry as their forwards are of such quality that when they get the ball they score anyhow. All-Ireland final replay Kerry, 25 attempts 10 wides, maybe Kerry should prioritise the mark, might bring their score to shot ratio closer to an acceptable "mark"???"
Will you stop with the goading of Kerry posters for god sake. I think we're all sick of it now.

Johnnyprophet (Galway) - Posts: 39 - 10/01/2020 17:56:13    2258784

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Can someone explain the advanced mark, and how it is designed to improve Gaelic football ?

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 10/01/2020 18:08:38    2258786

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Replying To Johnnyprophet:  "Will you stop with the goading of Kerry posters for god sake. I think we're all sick of it now."
100%, getting quite boring at this stage

boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 10/01/2020 18:09:44    2258787

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Replying To Johnnyprophet:  "Will you stop with the goading of Kerry posters for god sake. I think we're all sick of it now."
Yes please

farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 277 - 10/01/2020 18:14:42    2258790

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Can someone explain the advanced mark, and how it is designed to improve Gaelic football ?"
I could explain it to you but im not sure how its supposed to improve football, not a fan of the new rues myself but hey, each to their own

boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 10/01/2020 18:47:40    2258803

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I don't think it'll suit any county more that it'll suit certain players.

For Kerry I think Geaney and Clifford will do well out of it. Both well able to win high ball but crucially both have great movement and will be able to get themselves free for those short little 20m pop passes into the chest (which is what most marks will end up being eventually) in front of goal. Both players could run up some big scores.

For Dublin, I'd imagine there's a lot of work going into getting Rock, Mannion and O'Callaghan free for those short passes as well.

The likes of Cillian O'Connor could make hay.

Eventually, when teams start exploiting the rule, it'll be common to see a free taker finishing the game with 10+ points.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 10/01/2020 19:32:03    2258819

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Replying To Johnnyprophet:  "Will you stop with the goading of Kerry posters for god sake. I think we're all sick of it now."
Take your point, fair enough, but when Stephen O'Brien, comes out with such self-praising drivel it is hard to ignore, like and he continues on to say he's not sure which was his best inter-county season, wait for it, because they were all so good, really you could not make it up, hard to ignore an ego like this, so sorry for boring ye.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 674 - 10/01/2020 21:40:47    2258848

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Take your point, fair enough, but when Stephen O'Brien, comes out with such self-praising drivel it is hard to ignore, like and he continues on to say he's not sure which was his best inter-county season, wait for it, because they were all so good, really you could not make it up, hard to ignore an ego like this, so sorry for boring ye."
A truly pathetic post.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 11/01/2020 02:21:40    2258876

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I can see the kerry inside forward lining running riot with this introduction.

The advantage of the inside mark (from what ive seen so far) wont be from bombing in high balls to a monster full forward who fields them high above his head--far too much risk-t will be from delivering quality ball into smart, intelligent players who are more than able to win their own ball, I.e the likes of the kerry inside forwards. Clifford will be more than happy to either pelt on and take his score from play or slow it down and either take his score from the mark or deliver quality ball to someone else.

I'm actually looking forward to see how it plays out when the big guns meet and havent totally made up my mind for ot against it yet.

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 145 - 11/01/2020 10:49:44    2258887

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Not a fan of the new rule at all. Although having said that, this is tailor made for someone like Diarmuid Connolly. And i don't mean he will be on the end of the mark, rather provider in chief. No better man to hit a 40 yard pass right into the inside forwards chest

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 11/01/2020 12:31:47    2258893

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Replying To Greengrass:  "A truly pathetic post."
You're opinion is as worthy as mine, however when Stephen O'Brien puts out an opinion regarding the Kerry forwards that is at total odds with the stats over the last couple of seasons surely it can be challenged and then when he follows it up wondering which was his own personal best season I am entitled to be surprised, and wonder???????????

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 674 - 11/01/2020 20:58:25    2258980

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Replying To sligo joe:  "You're opinion is as worthy as mine, however when Stephen O'Brien puts out an opinion regarding the Kerry forwards that is at total odds with the stats over the last couple of seasons surely it can be challenged and then when he follows it up wondering which was his own personal best season I am entitled to be surprised, and wonder???????????"
Did you consider that when he said that all seasons were so good that he may have meant that from an enjoyment POV rather than meaning it as a boast?

I didn't hear his other comments and wouldn't take much notice tbh, it may have been tongue in cheek or it may have been misinterpreted. It's bizarre that you are so offended by it whatever the case may be.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 11/01/2020 21:27:03    2258991

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Did you consider that when he said that all seasons were so good that he may have meant that from an enjoyment POV rather than meaning it as a boast?

I didn't hear his other comments and wouldn't take much notice tbh, it may have been tongue in cheek or it may have been misinterpreted. It's bizarre that you are so offended by it whatever the case may be."
I'm not offended just maybe confused regarding the comment by O'Brien regarding the Kerry forwards and in fairness to him there is a group-think out there that while Kerry need to bolster defence and maybe mid-field the Kerry forwards are the business, however analysis of the conversion rate of the Kerry forwards in recent times does not support their high rating by the journalists etc. Regarding Stephen O'Brien's comments re his best season I accept that mis-quotes by journalists occur for sure, but as quoted , maybe incorrectly, in the articles, Irish Times and Independent the reference is to his level of performance and not enjoyment.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 674 - 11/01/2020 21:54:17    2258997

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Ha! Stephen O'Brien the egomaniac! Is that what we're going for?

He's a confident lad, nothing wrong with that. He had a great year.

Always thought he had the potential to be box office.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 12/01/2020 08:01:27    2259031

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Take your point, fair enough, but when Stephen O'Brien, comes out with such self-praising drivel it is hard to ignore, like and he continues on to say he's not sure which was his best inter-county season, wait for it, because they were all so good, really you could not make it up, hard to ignore an ego like this, so sorry for boring ye."
I looked up Friday's Irish Times.

Stephen O Brien did NOT say anything of the sort. Simple as that.

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 12/01/2020 11:37:18    2259054

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Stephen O'Brien quoted in the Times today, says the offensive mark will be no advantage to Kerry as their forwards are of such quality that when they get the ball they score anyhow. All-Ireland final replay Kerry, 25 attempts 10 wides, maybe Kerry should prioritise the mark, might bring their score to shot ratio closer to an acceptable "mark"???"
This is compete nonsense.

I looked up Friday's Irish Times and Stephen O Brien did NOT say anything of the sort. Simple as that.

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 12/01/2020 17:23:15    2259130

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Ha! Stephen O'Brien the egomaniac! Is that what we're going for?

He's a confident lad, nothing wrong with that. He had a great year.

Always thought he had the potential to be box office."
Agreed, let's not shoot down lads being confident or we will never get a decent interview ever again!

99% of them are giving robotic answers. Good to see a lad with confidence in his own and his teammates ability and no fear in saying it. It's not as if it's someone from Wicklow or carlow saying it, its Kerry-theyve already delivered and will do again.

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 145 - 12/01/2020 17:57:49    2259142

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Replying To Aibrean:  "This is compete nonsense.

I looked up Friday's Irish Times and Stephen O Brien did NOT say anything of the sort. Simple as that."
I don't know what Stephen O'Brien said but both papers quote the same, i.e offensive mark no advantage to Kerry, forwards of such quality that they will score anyhow, according to O'Brien, maybe he never said it but it is attributed to him in both papers 10/01/2020, maybe it is nonsense but not my nonsense

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 674 - 12/01/2020 20:43:25    2259224

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Replying To MesAmis:  "I don't think it'll suit any county more that it'll suit certain players.

For Kerry I think Geaney and Clifford will do well out of it. Both well able to win high ball but crucially both have great movement and will be able to get themselves free for those short little 20m pop passes into the chest (which is what most marks will end up being eventually) in front of goal. Both players could run up some big scores.

For Dublin, I'd imagine there's a lot of work going into getting Rock, Mannion and O'Callaghan free for those short passes as well.

The likes of Cillian O'Connor could make hay.

Eventually, when teams start exploiting the rule, it'll be common to see a free taker finishing the game with 10+ points."
It is a shocking dumb idea, imagine given a "free" score because someone can catch a ball? Idiotic, the game was dying anyway, this will kill it off.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 13/01/2020 01:10:17    2259273

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