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I used to like Brolly years ago. He used to analyse games and delivered it with passion and enthusiasm. You could tell he just focused on what was in front of him which is all I would really ask of a pundit. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 12/09/2019 10:42:14 2234671 Link 1 |
yes but they both have also a platform in the newspapers. Colm and Joe both write for the Sunday Independent and probably other publications too. A live game or a highlights show is not the forum to be constantly airing your opinions or grievances with the state of the game. People find it annoying . All we want is analysis of the games in hand . Joe always compared every other team less favourably to which ever team was top dog at that particular time. "Dublin wouldn't do that". You wouldn't get Donegal doing that", " That's not what Tyrone would do" . etc etc. He expects every team to do what the top team does whilst ignoring the fact that all teams are not equal and never will be. There will always be winners and losers. That's how sport works and we must not condemn the losers for not being winners. His domineering , bullying and shouting down of other panelists and presenters was even more annoying for the viewer that his views. He needs to take a break and reflect. RTE could do worse than do look at the SKY coverage to see how proper match-day analysis works.
s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 12/09/2019 10:50:40 2234678 Link 4 |
I tune in for the game, not for a clown at half time promoting himself by insulting amateur players and coaches for a laugh. If you want to tune in to see a lad making up stuff as you said yourself half the time, then fair enough. Dunphy was great in terrible Champ Leagues games and dull Irish games but his stick got old as well. And when it came down to big nights like European finals when the viewing figures were huge regardless he just came across as someone who didn't have a notion what he was talking about. Same as Hook in the rugby, was funny for a while then it went OTT. Sport can survive without self serving clowns looking for attention.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7893 - 12/09/2019 11:45:53 2234697 Link 13 |
Yeah a bit of balance with proper analysis would be fine. You will never get that with Joe on the panel though because he wants to be talking all the time and make it all about him and his soundbites.
GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 12/09/2019 12:01:48 2234707 Link 11 |
Love him or hate him he stokes entertainment. Its a shame he can't be as measured on tv as he is in his column in the Indo which I usually find better than the usual stuff. keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 12/09/2019 12:09:27 2234709 Link 3 |
Agree 100%.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 12/09/2019 12:41:07 2234717 Link 11 |
A lot of his columns are rants about issues that he has no proposed solutions for. They're clickbait. Of course they're better than the 'usual stuff' because they are brutal, but them being sopoor doesn't make his column any better. If you shelling out you're hard-earned cash to go an watch entertainment would you be as equally satisfied if they stopped their music / comedy / spoonbending routine to bore us with a monologue about kick out strategies or blanket defences? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 12/09/2019 12:56:02 2234721 Link 9 |
But what does he actually bring to the table? Very little if nothing...bar his rants. witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 12/09/2019 13:02:11 2234724 Link 0 |
Come out of that young Liam. We have yere measure now :-)
woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 12/09/2019 13:18:40 2234732 Link 0 |
His column has been awful for years, including the one last week where he basically disclosed his whole phone conversation with David Gough for more attention seeking. Better than what? Roy Curtis in the Sunday World? They are on a par.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7893 - 12/09/2019 13:23:49 2234735 Link 11 |
As far as regular columnists in papers go these days, I'd argue that a lot of them could get labelled with the 'clickbait' tag. Take MacKenna for example, for every clickbait article he regurgitates about Dublin funding or Irish rugby, he can write some superb stuff like his pieces about Mo Farah. I think Brolly is capable of the same, for example his interview with Peader Heffron a couple of years ago was terrific. keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 12/09/2019 13:35:48 2234737 Link 0 |
Never now cent see anyone loose a job to be honest. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 12/09/2019 13:57:53 2234746 Link 3 |
Will RTE ever get away from the ex-county player as analyst model? Plenty of knowledgeable GAA people that can analyse, tell us something we may not know already and do it with a sense of humour at times. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 12/09/2019 14:17:20 2234749 Link 9 |
Criticism of a ref is a big no no. The ref can sometimes get it wrong but he has to go to work in the morning, all those Joe's are making refs pack it in. Worth noting that joe got it wrong when he criticized the ref in all Ireland final heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 370 - 12/09/2019 14:39:51 2234756 Link 0 |
Imagine he spent 4 years complaining about the Holmes/ Connelly scenario only to be replaced by Rochford himself. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7893 - 12/09/2019 14:42:27 2234759 Link 9 |
Enough said now. Dunphy weighing in. Birds of a feather who like to hear themselves talk at the expense of real conversation. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 12/09/2019 14:47:32 2234763 Link 0 |
He had some good points in his article about us mixed with a load of rubbish. It was the tone and language used that probably annoyed Mayo people more. For me that's the thing about Brolly, why write an article criticising a team, and possibly even making suggestions for improvement, when you can write shockjock stuff guaranteed to draw in some readers. Most of his articles are poor example of punditry and journalism. McKenna used to be a decent writer too before going a similar route. Difference is though that writing is McKenna's trade, for Joe it's a pastime.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 12/09/2019 15:08:36 2234769 Link 9 |
What goes around comes around. Brolly nice guy good guy but arrogance was his downfall I have long since dispensed with Sunday game 10 times more words than action and it has spewed a type of punditry that places more emphasis on 'soundbite' than real bite . Looking forward to Saturday it amazes me that the pundits seem to think Dublin will learn more and improve more than Kerry. Fact is 15v 15 in first half in the drawn game you would have expected Kerry to have gone in with a further 3 -2 added to their total. Could it be that Fenton Mannion and O Callaghan played as well as they were allowed to play. 15 of Kerry's 21 the last day played in their first All Ireland final. It reminded me of Cork in Pairc Uí Chaoimh In '87 many including myself thought that Cork had blown their chance, but younger legs and hungrier desire kicked in in the replay and Kerry's 10 year famine began. I feel it could be the same for Dublin I am confident that Kerry's improvement continues apace on Saturday. Sam for Kerry on Sunday!! something I could not see coming with Jack Sherwood at full back and Paul Murphy at centre back against Monaghan Galway and Mayo earlier in year. Mega improvement in the space of 4 months Anois teacht an Ríocht Cíarraí Abù [Kerry forum very claustrophobic!! you either sing to the 'gurus' tune or you're out]
37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 752 - 12/09/2019 15:18:08 2234773 Link 1 |
MacKenna is a barstool journalist now, used to have the odd good article but a shambles now.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7893 - 12/09/2019 15:23:00 2234774 Link 12 |
I've always like a bit of controversy but he took to a whole new level, what are the odds of him going to sky after all the bashing he has given them (btw im not new my old account got banned with explanation I was PyatPree) DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 268 - 12/09/2019 15:55:40 2234780 Link 0 |