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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Yep, and in a game where he was deemed poor, and didn't do enough to get Donegal through he still managed 1-4."
Never a peno tbf really soft.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 15/08/2019 15:27:32    2226036

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Never a peno tbf really soft."
I think you're just looking to wind people up, it was clearly a penalty. Keegan showed again against Dublin that he's not capable of man-marking inside.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 15/08/2019 15:40:27    2226042

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "I never said Murphy had a bad season I said I can't see him getting in and he couldn't get The job done against a poor Mayo side, Murphy is class had a great season but there's players ahead of him imo. Now Donaghy agrees with me.

How Horan could start Ruane and D O Conor for the Dublin game was a shocker , don't tell me McLoughlin couldn't of done better ? Coen was the star forward all summer ok he was poor against Donegal but surely he's better than two lads who hadn't played all summer? The manager done the two lads wrong there throwing them in against Dublin shocker.

Show me where I called him a disgrace? I said he'd regret going. This is football talk man wether we're right or wrong it's just opinion's, you seem very angry with me all the time?"
Not angry lad you just talk a lot of rubbish. Murphy will get a deserved all star. Donaghy agrees with you. Congrats. The same Donaghy who tipped Mayo to beat Dublin?

And Coen is hit and miss, good in 3 games, poor in the others. That's just the way he is. Hindsight is great talking about McLoughlin, worked a treat having him as an impact sub with Moran versus Donegal. I backed Horan making that call unfortunately the 10 minutes after half time scuppered all those plans. Throwing them in? DOC was our bloody captain and it was a hand injury, i back that call all day long. As I said, hindsight is great. Horan can make funny decisions but I had no issue with those ones. Leaving Keegan as a full back was more mind boggling.

And lastly Mayo are not poor. Behind Dublin and Kerry but can beat any of the rest and come again if they regroup next year. If Mayo are poor who isn't in your eyes?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 15/08/2019 15:41:37    2226043

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Never a peno tbf really soft."
Peno or not, Murphy still had to score it.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9115 - 15/08/2019 15:50:27    2226048

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Murphy had a good year alright but he may miss out on one. I also agree with above poster I taught he was very average against Mayo and kicked some poor wides at a vital time which cost Donegal.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1143 - 15/08/2019 16:05:47    2226054

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Not angry lad you just talk a lot of rubbish. Murphy will get a deserved all star. Donaghy agrees with you. Congrats. The same Donaghy who tipped Mayo to beat Dublin?

And Coen is hit and miss, good in 3 games, poor in the others. That's just the way he is. Hindsight is great talking about McLoughlin, worked a treat having him as an impact sub with Moran versus Donegal. I backed Horan making that call unfortunately the 10 minutes after half time scuppered all those plans. Throwing them in? DOC was our bloody captain and it was a hand injury, i back that call all day long. As I said, hindsight is great. Horan can make funny decisions but I had no issue with those ones. Leaving Keegan as a full back was more mind boggling.

And lastly Mayo are not poor. Behind Dublin and Kerry but can beat any of the rest and come again if they regroup next year. If Mayo are poor who isn't in your eyes?"
Mayo this year we're poor cause of all their injuries I respect this Mayo team and with everyone fit are very good just look at the league final, but they were crippled with injuries all summer and made them a poor team that should of been bet well before the semi final , massive respect for getting this far but it's a bad look for Murphy and Donegal that they couldn't beat this Mayo team.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 15/08/2019 16:25:20    2226065

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Ah come on McShane was outstanding on Sunday against a very good Kerry team versus Murphy who couldn't beat an injury ravaged Mayo team. Kerry hammered Mayo , Mayo couldn't even beat Roscommon this season it's not like for like.

I know it wasn't just Murphy but that's what they'll look at when there being decided."
McShane played well on sunday but also missed some vital scoring chances which would of possibly got Tyrone over the line. He ended the game with 0-7 to his name and should of scored more. You categorize his performance as outstanding and to be honest I don't completely disagree with that but you point to Murphy's missed chances v Mayo as to him having a poor game yet he still ended up with 1-4 when playing midfield for the majority of the game and was directly involved in 1-7 of Donegal's total of 1-10 in a wet miserable night for football. You said Mayo were injury ravaged but the truth is they had a lot more players available in the match day 26 that they had in their match away to Kerry and it was actually Donegal who were down a lot of numbers. I honestly don't think Murphy could of done much more in that game to be honest, he put Donegal on his back in that second half and as another poster already said he needed help from others like McBrearty and McHugh in order to get the job done. Yes, he missed a few chances but there were a lot of wides kicked by both teams that night as the playing conditions were awful. Because Murphy is considered to be the best all round player of the last decade he is judged at a higher level than most and your comparison of McShane and him in their respective last games proves this.

I also don't think you're being very fair on your assessment of Mayo. Not many teams would of matched them on that particular night given what was at stake especially for their older players. They wanted another big game in croke park and I think if they had another week to prepare for Dublin the end result would of been much closer.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 15/08/2019 16:34:46    2226069

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Ah come on McShane was outstanding on Sunday against a very good Kerry team versus Murphy who couldn't beat an injury ravaged Mayo team. Kerry hammered Mayo , Mayo couldn't even beat Roscommon this season it's not like for like.

I know it wasn't just Murphy but that's what they'll look at when there being decided."
McShane couldn't beat Kerry either so that's not a great point to be making. Murphy hit 1-7 against Kerry don't forget.

You're way off here; Murphy had a few wides against Mayo but carried the team back into that game. He was superb against Kerry. He was superb against Tyrone. The man was outrageously good this year throughout Championship and I assume you didn't want him playing in all those games or you wouldn't even be posting this stuff!

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1319 - 15/08/2019 16:43:01    2226078

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Mayo this year we're poor cause of all their injuries I respect this Mayo team and with everyone fit are very good just look at the league final, but they were crippled with injuries all summer and made them a poor team that should of been bet well before the semi final , massive respect for getting this far but it's a bad look for Murphy and Donegal that they couldn't beat this Mayo team."
Murphy is one man. McShane was one man v Donegal. McShane was an anonymous against them, not a great look. Not sure how you are judging these things. Murphy was excellent against Mayo considering he wasn't getting any help. He was pretty much outstanding in all games.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 15/08/2019 16:43:30    2226079

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I think a pertinent question to ask is if we swapped Murphy for Brian Howard, would Donegal have won Ulster, beaten Meath, drew with Kerry and narrowly lost to Mayo? Again, not having a dig at Howard who i think is a great footballer. But in terms of influence and scoring power, Murphy is on another level and proved it even more conclusively this year."
That's exactly it. Murphy is a once in a lifetime player and I know a lot of us Donegal supporters are starting to fear that his time is nearing an end as he recently hit the big 3-0 but he is at the peak of his powers at the moment. I think he has another couple of years left in his current role and then hopefully another couple as an out and out no.14 like Kevin Cassidy does for Gaoth Dobhair if the body holds up for him.

Because of an injury crisis Murphy had to play the majority of his football during the super 8's at midfield and scored 2-14 in 3 games. He played 6 championship games with performances v Tyrone, Meath and Kerry possibly 10/10 displays and no matter what clondalkin says he was very influential v Mayo in an off colour Donegal team performance where only he, Daire O'Baoil, McMenamin and Niall O'Donnell played to their potential.

Donegal are blessed to have him and I will be shocked if he doesn't get his deserved all star this year.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 15/08/2019 16:49:00    2226082

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Ah come on McShane was outstanding on Sunday against a very good Kerry team versus Murphy who couldn't beat an injury ravaged Mayo team. Kerry hammered Mayo , Mayo couldn't even beat Roscommon this season it's not like for like.

I know it wasn't just Murphy but that's what they'll look at when there being decided."
Murphy destroyed kerry, had more of an impact against them then mcshane had!

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 561 - 15/08/2019 16:50:19    2226083

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "McShane couldn't beat Kerry either so that's not a great point to be making. Murphy hit 1-7 against Kerry don't forget.

You're way off here; Murphy had a few wides against Mayo but carried the team back into that game. He was superb against Kerry. He was superb against Tyrone. The man was outrageously good this year throughout Championship and I assume you didn't want him playing in all those games or you wouldn't even be posting this stuff!"
*watch him

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1319 - 15/08/2019 17:18:02    2226100

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "David Gough will get an all star for Dublin :-)

I'm only joking by the way :-)"
You never joke KB. We'll remember that one. Did Eamo put you up to that the rascal. :)

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 15/08/2019 17:42:27    2226111

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Replying To Pullhard1985:  "McShane has to get one, absolutely has to. What more could he have done?

Yeah, ill grant you McNamee is debatable but it was a very poor year for fullbacks so far and he was the pick of them, john small or cooper could pip him with a good final performance"
Agreed on McShane, one of the best forwards in the country this year on form, surely has to get one

boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 16/08/2019 09:11:39    2226255

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Replying To Mobot:  "Ah come off it. If Murphy doesn't get one this year then I don't know. He has been the most consistent high performance player in the championship this year and was in line for POTY only for being knocked out of the championship too early as history shows you need to make a final in order to get nominated (apart from B Brogan in 2010).

Murphy can get an all start in any position from midfield up. He's been over looked too many times in the past as is and it's scandalous that the best player of the last decade has only 2 all stars to his name."
maybe not the best player of the past decade then?

boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 16/08/2019 09:14:39    2226256

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I could see Murphy not getting picked for an All star, although fair enough he probably deserves one this year but with Donegal exiting the super 8s I think there are still too many quality forwards having good years that will pip Murphy to it. Currently the 6 forwards I would have would be Howard, C O'C, S O'Brien, Clifford, McShane and Mannion

boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 16/08/2019 09:28:15    2226262

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Replying To boman11:  "I could see Murphy not getting picked for an All star, although fair enough he probably deserves one this year but with Donegal exiting the super 8s I think there are still too many quality forwards having good years that will pip Murphy to it. Currently the 6 forwards I would have would be Howard, C O'C, S O'Brien, Clifford, McShane and Mannion"
Apart from possibly Fenton what midfielder has been better than Murphy? AOS and Moran had one or two good games but no where near as consistent as Murphy.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 16/08/2019 09:44:59    2226267

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Replying To Mobot:  "Apart from possibly Fenton what midfielder has been better than Murphy? AOS and Moran had one or two good games but no where near as consistent as Murphy."
I would go for Moran, he has also had a great season, consistently plays and lines out in midfield and his team reaching the All Ireland final will have an influence on the decision. Although I agree it should come down to individual performances only I think will definitely influence the pick.

boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 16/08/2019 11:20:50    2226315

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Replying To Belclare:  "Hilarious all the Meath lads putting in Keoghan...
Ye lost 4 games in the championship.. not a prayer ye will get one.."
Keogan was consistantly in top 3 performers in every game he played. Remember he played in 8 matches and no player wins matches on his own even M. Murphy. Even against Dublin he marked Kilkenny out of the game who was replaced early in 2nd half. Won penalties against Donegal and Laois after a magnificent catch to win the ball against Laois. Keogan has been one of the best backs, be it in full backline or half backline in Ireland for the last decade. I'm sure Galway would love a back or two that Meath have even with the deplorable defensive system they play. Kerry would also envy some of the backs Meath have.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 507 - 16/08/2019 12:11:18    2226352

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Replying To Mobot:  "Apart from possibly Fenton what midfielder has been better than Murphy? AOS and Moran had one or two good games but no where near as consistent as Murphy."
Moran is getting midfield with Fenton all day long.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 16/08/2019 12:11:57    2226355

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