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Lets look further at ur comments of Meath few years of sucess. Tyrone sucessful years are a short period in 00s. Tyrone have won all their 5 national titles in 6 year period between 2002 and 2003. Meath have won all their 14 national titles in 66 year period between 1933 and 1999. Tyrone have been sucessful on the national stage in 1 decade in 130 years of gaelic football eg 00 All Ireland winners 03 05 08 , National league winners div 1 2002 and 2003. Meath have been sucessful on the national stage in 7 decades in 130 years of gaelic football. Eg 1930s National league winners div 1 1932 1940s All Ireland winners 1949, National league winners div 1 1946 1950s All Ireland winners 1954 , National league winners div 1 1951 1960s All Ireland winners 1967 1970s National league division 1 winners 1975 1980s All Ireland winners 1987 1988 , National league div 1 winners 1988 1990s All Ireland winners 1996 1999 , National league div 1 winners eg 1990 , 1994 Tyrone have played in 6 All Ireland senior finals Meath have played in 16 All Ireland senior finals Meath come 5th in roll of Honour of All Ireland appearances Tyrone come 14th in roll of Honour of All Ireland appearances Only Kerry Dublin Galway and Cork have played in more finals then Meath. All the above counties and Cavan Wexford Down kildare Tippearey Mayo Offaly louth have all played in more senior finals then Tyrone. In the roll of Honour Meath are joint 4th most sucessful gaelic football county in Ireland. Tyrone are the the 14th most successful gaelic football county in Ireland. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 19/09/2019 05:34:42 2237414 Link 11 |
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Theres a roll of honour for final appearances?? Every day is a school day...
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/09/2019 22:16:15 2237951 Link 2 |
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My All Star team: Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 957 - 21/09/2019 09:13:25 2237997 Link 0 |
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How can David Moran get a all star? Brutal in both All Ireland finals
mayomanic (Mayo) - Posts: 85 - 21/09/2019 10:44:38 2238005 Link 0 |
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Morely and Small in the backs. You must be joking. Neither ever will be all star material.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 505 - 21/09/2019 11:51:09 2238024 Link 2 |
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What basis do you say this on? They've both had very solid years and could both arguably get one this year never mind in the future... 2 young lads, both great players, both definitely have all star potential if they don't get one this year
boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 21/09/2019 13:28:03 2238054 Link 3 |
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First of all, neither player is particularly young. Morely 25 and Small 26. Morely was taken to the cleaners in the replay and by 18 year old Shane Walsh in Navan. He's neither fast enough or big enough. Small is a tough marker that players on the edge at best. Was lucky to get his place for the replay and is the most limited defender on the ball that Dublin have.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 505 - 21/09/2019 22:22:32 2238155 Link 0 |
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You obviously have very little football knowledge. Morley has been excellent this year doing great man marking jobs on Cillian O'Connor, Paddy McBrearty, Mattie Donnelly and Paul Mannion and he has more than held his own each time. He wasn't marking Shane Walsh up in Navan, Jason Foley was. He is in my opinion one of the top backs in the country. John Small is a certain starter for Dublin. He is fantastic at blotting out the opposition's best half forward as he did to both Stephen O'Brien and to a lesser degree Sean O'Shea. A team that has 6 backs who only want to attack will not win anything. You can clearly only appreciate attacking wing backs who cause damage at the other end. Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 957 - 22/09/2019 11:17:00 2238213 Link 1 |
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I would say 25 and 26 is quite young would you not? On average a player peaks at 28-30, so both have a fair few years, I think Morley has had a great year for Kerry particularly based on the level of club football he has been playing prior to making an AI final. Small on the other hand had 2 good finals, kept O'Brien quite as you like both days out... something no other man could do this year on one occasion never mind 2. And What do you mean he was lucky to start again.. says you? Or did Jim tell you that himself, otherwise how have you come to the conclusion that he was lucky to start? Very silly thing to say as it's blatantly not true and you have no valid reason to make a call like that, so it is nonsense boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 22/09/2019 11:33:08 2238215 Link 1 |
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Well said legend
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 22/09/2019 12:38:57 2238229 Link 0 |
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I suppose he means that in his opinion John Small was lucky to start the replay.Small was sent off in his previous 2 All -Ireland Finals.He was yellow carded in the first half of the draw against Kerry and was subbed in the second half.After the Cooper dismissal and Small's yellow card in the draw,I remember thinking that John Small was at risk of being sent off and Dublin surely would not have survived being 2 players down.In fairness to Small,he had a good game in the replay and he seemed to be more conscious of his discipline and I don't think he was carded.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2154 - 22/09/2019 12:39:00 2238230 Link 1 |
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Small did not mark O'Brien for the replay. He was on Sean O'Shea. In footballing terms, wouldn't consider 26 young. Only a few county men play well into their 30's nowadays. Surely a guy that had made his championship debut 5 years ago has hit his peak. I think it was a toss up between not starting MacAauley, Cooper or Small. Murchan showed huge improvement when going on for Small the first day. Small spent most of his time fouling O'Brien and blazed a ball well wide when going forward. Morely conceded 6 pts from play across both finals and was extremely poor against Meath in Navan. Granted he played every game but this is the all stars we are talking about. We are looking for the outstanding performers across the year.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 505 - 22/09/2019 13:50:06 2238247 Link 0 |
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Paul Mannion got 4 POINTS FROM PLAY off Morely in replay. Looks like a decent trier at best but lacks pace and size to be a good full back. If Kerry had a couple of decent backs, they would be AI champions but unfortunately they don't. Whats wrong with defending well and being good in possession as I'm sure you should know as a good football man having seen the O' Se's, Moynahan etc. over the years. Small is not at that level full stop.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 505 - 22/09/2019 19:55:08 2238330 Link 0 |
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Huge congratulations to Connor McGill, Bryan menton , and donal keoghan. Great achievement by all 3. Who were hugely influential in Meaths successful year. I feel that we will still get the one all star and that will be donal. Still very nice to see 3 nominees. Well done. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/09/2019 08:01:27 2239548 Link 2 |
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Congrats on the nominees RD - fully deserved. Cant see Donal getting one but only matter of time before he does, so I wouldn't be too despondent if he fails to land one this year. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3712 - 27/09/2019 14:10:21 2239640 Link 0 |
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That is simply not true. Moran played well enough in the first match.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 27/09/2019 14:27:27 2239646 Link 7 |
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Neither Roscommon or Meath will probably get an All star but its hard understand how Meath got three nominations and Roscommon two given both teams Championship seasons. Donegal getting 6 is also very strange sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1142 - 27/09/2019 14:42:24 2239652 Link 4 |
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I could see numbers 8-15 being packed with all Kerry/Dublin players which could leave room for 1 or 2 outsiders in the back 6. If so I think he is the first pick outside of the finalists but then again maybe i'm wrong
boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 27/09/2019 15:09:52 2239660 Link 0 |
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Last time I checked, the All Stars awards are based on individual performances and not on team performance. I'm not sure about McGill but Keoghan and Menton are worthy of their place in the nominations. Menton was the highest scoring midfielder in the championship and Keoghan was exceptional from what I saw against Clare, Donegal and Mayo. Conor Cox would have been on the All Star team if it was picked in June but he won't get one and neither will the Meath lads so not to worry.
gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 27/09/2019 15:10:34 2239662 Link 3 |
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Donegal getting 6 is not strange, promoted as champions Div 2, Ulster champions for second year in a row lost 1 game in the championship only Dublin had a better record in the championship this year. All that being said only Murphy deserves an all star . ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 27/09/2019 15:39:39 2239666 Link 1 |