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Kerry V Tyrone

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Replying To sam1884:  "A new Kerry team will be itching to get at Tyrone and lay down a marker for the next decade. Previous Kerry teams have been questioned in regards to their record against Ulster teams particularly Tyrone. Tyrone in the 00's was a freak team, something I doubt we'll see Tyrone produce again. Kerry are on the cusp of something very special and whilst whispered quietly in the Kingdom the sight of a Tyrone jersey in Croke Park will have them fired up. Kerry have the forwards, midfield and defence as well as the conditioning to play any way Tyrone want. They're also young and naive which will help against the expected cynical tactics Tyrone will bring - these Kerry boys strike me as honest guys who just want to play ball and won't let teams get into their heads. The only hope Tyrone have is the MH factor which can have an influence as we seen with Cody. It's a miracle the job he is currently doing with this Tyrone team - it won't be enough though as I see Kerry winning this very comfortably which to me will leave Tyrone asking questions of where they're going."
Third semi final in as many years and if Tyrone don't win they'll be goin home empty handed,it's as simple as that.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 07/08/2019 03:55:31    2222011

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Replying To wfkerry:  "if Kerry get a good start could be problematic for Tyrone"
i agree on that part too.
Ideally we shouldn't read into any of our opponents previous engagements this summer .
Using it as a barometer for predicting a Semi-final knock-out match in croke park seems like a blinded/sheep following opinion.

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 07/08/2019 08:37:30    2222031

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "Hopefully he keeps an eye out for what might be done off the ball to Mc Shane,Mc Alliskey,Donnelly,Sludden,Coney,Mc Curry et al as well. Be nice if he did that...right :)"
Absolutely, hate the off the ball stuff plaguing the game.
Don't know who Deegan's linesmen will be put hopefully all 3 of them will make it clear early on in the game that they are not going to tolerate that crap.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 07/08/2019 10:52:48    2222097

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I think Dublin would prefer Tyrone in the final??

Tizcold (Galway) - Posts: 239 - 07/08/2019 11:05:39    2222101

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Kerry have failed to beat Ulster opposition in their last two championship clashes. The games against Monaghan & Donegal showed a team with lots going forward but defensive weakness. Tyrone with their style of play honed over the summer games may pose some problems Kerry have yet to face. Tyrone have a good spread of scorers throughout the team and this may get them home by a couple of points.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 07/08/2019 12:37:33    2222140

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I really think it's just gas :) all the ex Tyrone players suggesting kerry was the easy draw for them all over the media lol them cute kerry houres will live this as if past results against different players will matter in this game kerry are by far the closest to dublin atm and Christ I wouldn't be poking the bear before the match if i were the opposition...

Hitnhurl (Cork) - Posts: 92 - 07/08/2019 15:15:28    2222218

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Replying To Hitnhurl:  "I really think it's just gas :) all the ex Tyrone players suggesting kerry was the easy draw for them all over the media lol them cute kerry houres will live this as if past results against different players will matter in this game kerry are by far the closest to dublin atm and Christ I wouldn't be poking the bear before the match if i were the opposition..."
Silly approach if they were, can't say I saw any of the tyrone ex players saying such things. What I saw and read was mostly an ackonowledgent that there was nothing to be gained in going flat out a week before a semi final when they'd be facing strong opposition either way? Tyrone knew that theyd have it all to do and that theyd be up against it if were to be kerry/donegal/mayo so why bother going flat out the week before?

That being said, I still fancy Kerry to put quite a number on Tyrone here. We all know how dogged, organised and committed the Tyrone boys are but I dont think that thatll be enough to cope with Kerry's fire power. Itll be like nothing they have faced this year and I dokt think they have the defenders to minimise the harm Clifford, o'Brien et al can inflict. I'd be amazed of Tyrone get within 4 points of them but if anyone is capable of upsetting the odds I suppose it is Tyrone.

What a weekend of football by the way whoever wins, I've tickets to both games and am counting the hours.

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 145 - 07/08/2019 15:57:53    2222242

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Replying To Byanthon:  "Kerry have failed to beat Ulster opposition in their last two championship clashes. The games against Monaghan & Donegal showed a team with lots going forward but defensive weakness. Tyrone with their style of play honed over the summer games may pose some problems Kerry have yet to face. Tyrone have a good spread of scorers throughout the team and this may get them home by a couple of points."
I agree with much of what you say, it's just Kerry have a lot of good scoring forwards, it will be hard to keep them all quiet. What ever way Tyrone play Kerry it is hard to see them out scoring Kerry unless they out score Kerry by 2 in terms of goals.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 07/08/2019 21:24:56    2222448

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Replying To Hitnhurl:  "I really think it's just gas :) all the ex Tyrone players suggesting kerry was the easy draw for them all over the media lol them cute kerry houres will live this as if past results against different players will matter in this game kerry are by far the closest to dublin atm and Christ I wouldn't be poking the bear before the match if i were the opposition..."
Who exactly said this? Can you give specific ex-players and state were their quotes came from?

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 07/08/2019 22:39:38    2222495

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Replying To Hitnhurl:  "I really think it's just gas :) all the ex Tyrone players suggesting kerry was the easy draw for them all over the media lol them cute kerry houres will live this as if past results against different players will matter in this game kerry are by far the closest to dublin atm and Christ I wouldn't be poking the bear before the match if i were the opposition..."
Sean cavanagh said on the Sunday game after the Munster final that if Kerry were in any other province we wouldn't make the 8s.

I wonder what he thinks now after Tyrone only beat Cork by 3 points them selves after being behind for a lot of that game.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/08/2019 00:19:32    2222536

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If the ref and his team deal with the off the ball fouling particularly of Seanie Shea and David Clifford then Kerry should prevail.
If it's a repeat of Donegals antics then it could be a long day.
Its a stain on our game and needs to be addressed.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 08/08/2019 07:06:04    2222547

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Replying To westkerry:  "If the ref and his team deal with the off the ball fouling particularly of Seanie Shea and David Clifford then Kerry should prevail.
If it's a repeat of Donegals antics then it could be a long day.
Its a stain on our game and needs to be addressed."
Hopefully Mattie Donnelly, Harte and McShane are given the same protection at the other end. I remember in 2015 a few of Tyrone's key players being targeted by Kerry. Despite all this whiter than white stuff Kerry can be as cynical as any team in big games.

A Another (None) - Posts: 192 - 08/08/2019 10:55:05    2222610

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Replying To A Another:  "Hopefully Mattie Donnelly, Harte and McShane are given the same protection at the other end. I remember in 2015 a few of Tyrone's key players being targeted by Kerry. Despite all this whiter than white stuff Kerry can be as cynical as any team in big games."
Rubbish.. a few young kerry kads will target seaoned pros like Harte and Co will ye go away out of that.
Can you name any particular incident in 2015? The one that stood out was the late hit on gooch infront of the hill..
Tyrone wrote the book on that carry on ...

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 08/08/2019 11:19:33    2222620

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Replying To westkerry:  "Rubbish.. a few young kerry kads will target seaoned pros like Harte and Co will ye go away out of that.
Can you name any particular incident in 2015? The one that stood out was the late hit on gooch infront of the hill..
Tyrone wrote the book on that carry on ..."
Tyrone don't have sole rights for playing it tough and they certainly didn't invent it. All the best teams have it in their armoury, Kerry included. I don't think the Kerry boys need protection anymore than the Tyrone lads do. Enright and Co are well able to protect themselves.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 08/08/2019 13:11:24    2222656

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Replying To HighKings:  "Tyrone don't have sole rights for playing it tough and they certainly didn't invent it. All the best teams have it in their armoury, Kerry included. I don't think the Kerry boys need protection anymore than the Tyrone lads do. Enright and Co are well able to protect themselves."
Its not Enright thats dragged to the ground though is it? Players regardless off their county deserve to be allowed play the game without off the ball fouling and wrestling. All top forwards get this treatment and its ruining the game.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 08/08/2019 13:23:44    2222658

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Replying To HighKings:  "Tyrone don't have sole rights for playing it tough and they certainly didn't invent it. All the best teams have it in their armoury, Kerry included. I don't think the Kerry boys need protection anymore than the Tyrone lads do. Enright and Co are well able to protect themselves."
Plus i should add playing it tough is fine within the rules, its the off the ball fouling im talking about .

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 08/08/2019 13:32:06    2222662

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Replying To westkerry:  "Plus i should add playing it tough is fine within the rules, its the off the ball fouling im talking about ."
westkerry would you give it up crying there before a ball is even kicked

redbomb (Tyrone) - Posts: 167 - 08/08/2019 13:51:38    2222671

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Replying To westkerry:  "Its not Enright thats dragged to the ground though is it? Players regardless off their county deserve to be allowed play the game without off the ball fouling and wrestling. All top forwards get this treatment and its ruining the game."
No Enright definitely isn't likely to be dragged to the ground, he's usually the one doing the dragging. My point is that the ref doesn't need to solely focus on the Tyrone defenders. Both sets of defenders will be at it and both should be penalised equally.

I agree with you that it should be penalised. I just don't like one team being singled out as being the culprits.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 08/08/2019 13:55:10    2222673

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Tyrone are no worse than any other team for the off the ball stuff from what I have seen this year although they only time I have seen them in the flesh is during the league. Yes I expect they will defend deep when they don't have the ball and crowd Clifford and others but that's just part of the game now and our players had better get used to it. The issue for Kerry will be more tactical than anything else.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 08/08/2019 13:55:59    2222674

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Replying To redbomb:  "westkerry would you give it up crying there before a ball is even kicked"
Nah ive seen enough of Tyrone to know what to expect before a ball is even kicked.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 08/08/2019 14:18:12    2222689

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