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JJ Delaney never played left corner back, that was Jackie Tyrell's position. I don't agree with this whole thing of moving players out of their positions just to fit them onto an All Star team or team of the decade. I always think, pick them in the position they played or don't pick them at all. More leeway in the forwards as they tend to be moved around more, but a full back is a full back and a centre back is a centre back. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 25/07/2019 12:32:22 2216241 Link 0 |
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I think for someone like JJ, it's fair enough to move him because he could play anywhere. He was a wing back originally. And would it not be harsh on him or Daithi to drop one of them for Tyrell or another corner back just because both played at full back? cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 25/07/2019 14:02:48 2216297 Link 0 |
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Would you not agree that Harnedy has been more consistent that Horgan. If we must have a Corkman,despite the fact that they really won absolutely nothing nationally in this decade, surely Seamus would be the man.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 25/07/2019 14:07:49 2216298 Link 1 |
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Is team of the decade not supposed to be a team based on performances over a decade though? Like the team of the century wouldve been filled with players who played in the 80s if that was the case. And the Millenium team 90s players. Austin Gleeson is certainly talented. But probably only played well for his Senior county team for a couple of seasons. Mick Fennelly and David Burke played consistently well for more of the decade. Harnedy a good player for sure. But Horgan is different class.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 25/07/2019 15:31:42 2216355 Link 0 |
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Sorry I see you have Mick Fennelly on the team and Ozzie centreback. My mistake. Brick Walsh a far more consistent top level performer though.....
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 25/07/2019 15:35:15 2216357 Link 0 |
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1 Eoin Murphy Esco678 (Waterford) - Posts: 1 - 25/07/2019 16:15:35 2216386 Link 1 |
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É.Murphy Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 25/07/2019 16:32:26 2216398 Link 0 |
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I'd be moving daithi Burke into the corner to facilitate JJ .
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 25/07/2019 17:24:44 2216429 Link 0 |
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I'd be moving daithi Burke into the corner to facilitate JJ .
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 25/07/2019 17:25:05 2216430 Link 0 |
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I like Brick Walsh a very good hurler he could do a job anywhere on the field, I remember he was the winning of the game against us in 2011 when he was moved back full back on Kevin Downes and contained him after Downes getting 2 goals and you have to respect his longevity especially in the modern game, I just rate Austin Gleeson very highly and he needs to played centre back and he will reach his potential. David Burke is a good hurler too but i had to pick Tony Kelly fantastic talent but you could also make a case for Brendan Maher, Cian Lynch and Shane Fitzgibbon. Seamus Harnedy is more than just good he is top class, a different style of hurler to Horgan. Horgan is the classy stick man and Harnedy is a ball winner and a link man in the forward line. DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 25/07/2019 17:54:32 2216442 Link 0 |
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Austin Gleeson is a fantastic hurler and if he played in a Wexford style system then yes centreback suits him best as it did under Mcgrath at Waterford. In a more orthodox set up I think hes better at centre forward. However he still only had a couple of truly outstanding seasons in the decade. I think Tony Kellys best position is somewhere in the half forwards too. Who do you drop out of TJ, Canning and Noel Mcgrath to get Ozzie or Tony Kelly in though? Cian Lynch will probably make the team of the next decade allowing for form and injuries. Did Shane Fitzgibbon not have his best years in the 90s? Harnedy is a brilliant player but Id still have Mullane Horgan and Callanan inside.....
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 25/07/2019 20:58:03 2216514 Link 0 |
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Any team of the decade has to include the following: 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 26/07/2019 01:00:15 2216603 Link 1 |
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Agree with you 100%, Eoin Murphy is another I'd include in any team of the decade or any other team for that matter.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 26/07/2019 09:53:53 2216653 Link 0 |
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Haha you caught me there I meant to say Darragh Fitzgibbon but I suppose he is not around long enough to be considered.
DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 26/07/2019 12:08:08 2216714 Link 0 |
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Mick fennelly another non negotiable an absolute powerhouse
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 26/07/2019 12:18:03 2216722 Link 0 |
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The reason I didnt include Tommy Walsh JJ Delaney or Henry Shefflin was that I picked my team based on players who played most of the seasons this decade. At least 5 or 6. The 3 lads would be on my team of the noughties. Which would probably consist of mainly Kilkenny players with a few Cork lads. They would also be nearly certainly on my team of the century if I live to be 129!!!!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 26/07/2019 15:24:57 2216809 Link 0 |
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Very good young player. If he keeps improving he might be on the team of the next decade. Along with Meade, Kingston, and a host of other very good players Cork had last year u21 and this at u20. Time will tell.....
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 26/07/2019 15:27:34 2216811 Link 0 |
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Ah I think Kingston has been found out now, another player not up to scratch.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 26/07/2019 16:47:20 2216839 Link 0 |
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For God sake Kingston is on Cork teams for the past three years and he has shown very little improvement. I cannot see what people see in him and Darragh Fitzgibbon was desperately poor against KK last Sunday, although he is generally better than that. Apart from Allan Cadogan, Pat Horgan, Seamus Harnedy and Mark Coleman it was hard to make the case that any Cork player even held their own last Sunday. Every year, as in '10,'13, '14,'17, '18 and '19, among others, Cork give a big 'statement' in Munster but then collapse in Croke Park. I am, as they say, half a Corkman and I just cannot understand how this once proud hurling county is going so poorly. I just cannot understand how so many people confidently expected them to beat Kilkenny last Sunday with seven men on board who had played in the 2013 All Ireland. They had two chances to beat Clare that year for the ultimate prize and they failed to win in Croke Park, despite the fact that they have beaten Clare in almost every other match of note they played them during this decade. Including '13 every other team in Munster have beaten them in Croke Park on the big days since.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 26/07/2019 22:56:06 2216956 Link 0 |
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Yeah it would be harsh, in as much as dropping a good player is harsh. Just a bugbear of mine with all Star teams. I sometimes like to think if I played full back all year and was chosen right corner back on the team of the year, that I'd refuse the award in a fit of pique! Reality is, I'd probably quietly accept it but there'd be no denying that I was only considered second best full back that year.
ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 27/07/2019 13:56:55 2217088 Link 0 |