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Pairc Ui Chaoimh - The GAA's Childrens' Hospital

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "So, no more matches there this year. A couple played during the league, an All-Ireland quarter final last year which nobody went to, and a massive overspend by the GAA.
This stadium never made financial sense, the GAA didn't need a huge snazzy flashy stadium in Cork to use 2-3 times a year.
The 125m is looking more and more like a shocking waste of money which gives the Childrens' hopsital a run for its money.
At a time when Casement is lying in ruins, Walsh Park needs an overhaul and county grounds in Drogheda, etc need a major overhaul, this was GAA throwing away money at its worst.
And at the end of it all, the GAA as a whole is footing the bill. What a joke."
Firstly the cost is not €125 million, Casement is lying in ruins because a stupid decision was taken to close it before planning permission for its redevelopment was approved so PUC has nothing to do with that. Walsh Park is getting its overhaul but Waterford can not start work until the government funding is announced in October to compliment funding from Munster and Central Council, a similar situation exists in Kildare and Meath in relation to St Conleths and Pairc Tailteann, again nothing to do with PUC. The Gaelic Grounds in Drogheda is not being developed as agreement couldn't be reached on a lease with the habitant club so Louth has purchased land and intend building a new ground on a phased basis, again nothing to do with PUC. The old Páirc was nothing short of a kip, and a dangerous kip at that, it has been redeveloped into a very fine stadium that has a multi purpose use, on a smaller scale than Croke Park, but it offers conference and event facilities that ensure an all year round income, I am certain the facility will generate a profit sooner than later and will maintain that income once fully established. The situation with cost overruns on PUC bears no resemblance to the children's hospital and to suggest such is overly dramatic and being honest........stupid.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 24/07/2019 18:35:10    2215901

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Replying To cuchulainn35:  "Ulster play leinster and Dublin next Tuesday in Abbotstown in an U-15 tournament. The best player from Ulster, Down,Derry, Antrim, Armagh, Tyrone and Donegal represented.
They will wear a step for the occasion but cannot keep due to the costs associated.
This isn't Ulster - this is Croke Park
PUC is a vanity project . With a population of 150,000 Cork has a sizeable population for its city and the county works double that - but 25.000 stadium would have been adequate .

Meath aren't world beaters but the have a good support and when they return to the successful yrs they are realistic in what they want

Cork are just deluded - and we all suffer !!!!"
35000 for Cork vs Limerick last year
31000 for Cork vs Tipp this year
28000 for Cork vs Kerry last year

Plus sold out concerts, so how would 25000 make since

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 24/07/2019 18:45:55    2215906

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Replying To Richieq:  "Firstly the cost is not €125 million, Casement is lying in ruins because a stupid decision was taken to close it before planning permission for its redevelopment was approved so PUC has nothing to do with that. Walsh Park is getting its overhaul but Waterford can not start work until the government funding is announced in October to compliment funding from Munster and Central Council, a similar situation exists in Kildare and Meath in relation to St Conleths and Pairc Tailteann, again nothing to do with PUC. The Gaelic Grounds in Drogheda is not being developed as agreement couldn't be reached on a lease with the habitant club so Louth has purchased land and intend building a new ground on a phased basis, again nothing to do with PUC. The old Páirc was nothing short of a kip, and a dangerous kip at that, it has been redeveloped into a very fine stadium that has a multi purpose use, on a smaller scale than Croke Park, but it offers conference and event facilities that ensure an all year round income, I am certain the facility will generate a profit sooner than later and will maintain that income once fully established. The situation with cost overruns on PUC bears no resemblance to the children's hospital and to suggest such is overly dramatic and being honest........stupid."
Well Said

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 24/07/2019 18:49:17    2215910

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Cork is Irelands second city. Belfast is in Northern Ireland. Cork has 210,000 people in the city and 543000in the county. And that's in Irelands strongest GAA province of 1.2 million people. Those are the facts. Munster has a tonne more All Irelands than any other province and that's not to belittle any other province.The Munster Championship is the GAAs most important provincial competition so to compare it to Belfast and the counties of Cavan and louth and Monaghan is ridiculous. That's why Pairc ui Chaoimh was rebuilt. The GAA would want to take the money for stadiums and start pumping it into clubs including setting up a taskforce to get people in Belfast playing. And I mean pumping money into a few Unionist GAA clubs..get them.back playing hurling like Carson did and leave the politics at the door."
You should get out of Munster a little more

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 24/07/2019 18:51:56    2215911

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Replying To BaldyBadger:  "If there is a big Hurling game, the Cork public will go in their thousands. Unfortunately football is not as big a draw for people outside of my area of West Cork and some city heartlands. It is not a white elephant.
If Wexford had a football match a Wexford park or Limerick play at the garlic grounds, or Kilkenny play at Nowlan Park, you will not fill those grounds either.
You mentioned Casement Park. Of course Belfast as one of the biggest cities in the country should have a quality stadium too. However, as some people have said Cork is not easy to get to (I don't know why), I do know that Casement is not easy for many counties in Ulster either. However as the major city in that region, that is where the stadium should be, and likewise for Cork."
The problem with getting into Cork is the amount of traffic backed out the road for miles when other counties are attending and the lack of effort to control traffic as it arrives.
I remember hearing that there was a 10 mile tailback when the place opened and there was a double header on. Absolute joke.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 24/07/2019 19:14:58    2215920

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Should play All Ireland football quarter final double header there from 2020

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 24/07/2019 20:33:30    2215965

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