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Did Meath Mentally Collapse Yesterday?

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I think Dublin were always going to win regardless no shame on Meath but even if they got half of their scoring chances on the board it would only have been a moral victory.
Fair play to them for holding Dublin to only 5 points in the first half but looking at the teams coming up from 3rd round draw winners of Tyrone Kildare Armagh or Mayo are the 4 teams that they would like to avoid if they are to make Super 8s.
It's hard to think all starting 15 broke down mentally if that's the case they need a new sports physologist.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 24/06/2019 18:51:32    2200153

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Replying To Monkeycatcher:  "At least they turned up"
I don't want to see anybody who wasn't at yesterday's game at the next one. I drove in snow to ballybofey, and drove home. I drove almost twice to ennis (turning back halfway there due to cancellation) but next day out again, I drove on a Saturday afternoon to pairc ui rinn and drove home , I drove to portlaoise, and 3 times to Croke Park. I don't want to see anyone at the next game who couldn't bother their ass to go to a Leinster final.
Rant over.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/06/2019 19:38:08    2200188

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I don't want to see anybody who wasn't at yesterday's game at the next one. I drove in snow to ballybofey, and drove home. I drove almost twice to ennis (turning back halfway there due to cancellation) but next day out again, I drove on a Saturday afternoon to pairc ui rinn and drove home , I drove to portlaoise, and 3 times to Croke Park. I don't want to see anyone at the next game who couldn't bother their ass to go to a Leinster final.
Rant over."
You're out of luck because I'll be there. I went to all league games this year bar 1 home and away all championship matches bar the leinster final. If Meath fans boycotted in protest of funding like I did change would happen sooner. The price of the ticket also needs to be changed.

Now there was probably only 6k or 7k meath fans in Croker which is well short of the 20k/30k we've taken to big matches before. Next year if we play Dublin far less meath fans will travel and rightly so.

We'll have more meath fans in navan for our league matches next year please god then went to the Dublin game on Sunday.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 24/06/2019 20:00:04    2200207

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I don't want to see anybody who wasn't at yesterday's game at the next one. I drove in snow to ballybofey, and drove home. I drove almost twice to ennis (turning back halfway there due to cancellation) but next day out again, I drove on a Saturday afternoon to pairc ui rinn and drove home , I drove to portlaoise, and 3 times to Croke Park. I don't want to see anyone at the next game who couldn't bother their ass to go to a Leinster final.
Rant over."
What right have you got to say who should or shouldn't go to a football match???

If you're happy with the status quo in Leinster that's your right but many more aren't happy and have a right to demonstrate that.

jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 24/06/2019 20:33:39    2200240

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Did Meath Mentally Collapse Yesterday?

I think the pressure got to Meath forwards yesterday, the harder they tried the more eratic the the shot selection / misses became.

On a plus side I dont think any other team (since Donegal in 2011) have kept Dublin forwards subdued in the first half with a defending masterclass, a great platform to build on.

Im a "Glass Quarter Empty" kind of supporter and I believe Meath will make the super 8's and have a big say in the championship yet.

Meath to make the AI semi finals and sort out put the Dubs to the sword second time of asking.

NAIL_BAR (Meath) - Posts: 457 - 24/06/2019 20:34:57    2200241

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100% they bottled it. Poor passing and shooting caused purely by lack of confidence.
Ye need a real good manager, and unless your boss learns real quick, he's not the man.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 25/06/2019 19:53:00    2200841

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I don't want to see anybody who wasn't at yesterday's game at the next one. I drove in snow to ballybofey, and drove home. I drove almost twice to ennis (turning back halfway there due to cancellation) but next day out again, I drove on a Saturday afternoon to pairc ui rinn and drove home , I drove to portlaoise, and 3 times to Croke Park. I don't want to see anyone at the next game who couldn't bother their ass to go to a Leinster final.
Rant over."
All that driving and still driving us all mad.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 25/06/2019 20:49:04    2200885

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I just think Meath do not have the full team to play in the style that would have got them much nearer.
They were great defensively, but were afraid/unable to move the ball quick and break - in fairness the lashing rain did not help.
They hit some terrible wides.
But it was a funny game I enjoyed it watching how Dublin had to figure out how to break Meath down.
I think Meath found it hard to chnage from thier defensive keep ball mindset.
Plus they should have launched a few high balls in Newman so that little nippy Meath fella Conlon could feed off him.
It was goals Meath needed and they should have went all out for them.

Plus I think the scoreboard flattered Dublin (and no I am not taking the P).
I think Meath tired in that last 20 and did not have the fitness to keep closing Dublin down in that last 20 minutes.
It is unfair to call it mental collapse I think,

gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 25/06/2019 22:00:45    2200940

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I don't want to see anybody who wasn't at yesterday's game at the next one. I drove in snow to ballybofey, and drove home. I drove almost twice to ennis (turning back halfway there due to cancellation) but next day out again, I drove on a Saturday afternoon to pairc ui rinn and drove home , I drove to portlaoise, and 3 times to Croke Park. I don't want to see anyone at the next game who couldn't bother their ass to go to a Leinster final.
Rant over."
Don't worry you should get a good rest from all that driving very soon!

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 26/06/2019 04:47:08    2201032

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Replying To realdub:  "100% they bottled it. Poor passing and shooting caused purely by lack of confidence.
Ye need a real good manager, and unless your boss learns real quick, he's not the man."
It's hardly the managers fault

They had the correct tactics. The players hadn't the composure to kick the scores. They got the ball to the D as many times as Dublin but couldn't kick them over.
The players need to take ownership. Managers can't kick points

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 26/06/2019 07:24:20    2201040

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "It's hardly the managers fault

They had the correct tactics. The players hadn't the composure to kick the scores. They got the ball to the D as many times as Dublin but couldn't kick them over.
The players need to take ownership. Managers can't kick points"
Its the manager's job to instill confidence in his players, if he can't do that, he can't manage.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 26/06/2019 16:09:00    2201331

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They didn't mentally collapse, they are just simply not at the level required.

They can beat Clare, Longford, Armagh etc but they aren't used to playing the Dublin's and Kerry's of this world, and when they play them, the gulf is outrageous.

They thought they were ready to really give it a push but the harsh reality is that even though they got promotion to D1, They haven't closed the gap.

Their forwards just aren't good enough.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/06/2019 16:09:23    2201332

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Replying To waynoI:  "They didn't mentally collapse, they are just simply not at the level required.

They can beat Clare, Longford, Armagh etc but they aren't used to playing the Dublin's and Kerry's of this world, and when they play them, the gulf is outrageous.

They thought they were ready to really give it a push but the harsh reality is that even though they got promotion to D1, They haven't closed the gap.

Their forwards just aren't good enough."
They did wayno, I've heard their conversion rate was top notch in training etc, so its not as if they can't play ball, they just didn't believe in themselves.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 26/06/2019 16:12:45    2201335

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They didn't mentally collapse, using the word 'collapse' would suggest that they were in a position of prominence in the first place, which unfortunately they weren't. And I'm not suggesting that was their fault, they just were never gonna be good enough.

pati (Meath) - Posts: 80 - 26/06/2019 16:58:37    2201357

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Replying To realdub:  "They did wayno, I've heard their conversion rate was top notch in training etc, so its not as if they can't play ball, they just didn't believe in themselves."
Of course. They were popping them over all over the place against donegal etc. what happened ? No one knows to be honest.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/06/2019 17:43:12    2201371

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Replying To realdub:  "Its the manager's job to instill confidence in his players, if he can't do that, he can't manage."
Quoting mdm "Andy McEntee is the best manager I have ever played under".

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/06/2019 17:44:49    2201374

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Was that in basketball? :D Listen, I know he managed the club scene very well, and if he learns from that disaster, and brings Meath on from that, he will have achieved something very worthwhile.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 26/06/2019 18:49:58    2201400

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "It's hardly the managers fault

They had the correct tactics. The players hadn't the composure to kick the scores. They got the ball to the D as many times as Dublin but couldn't kick them over.
The players need to take ownership. Managers can't kick points"
Very true managers cannot kick points, however they can put a five foot seven: ten stone, inexperienced lad in as our lone target man and move our regular full forward out the field and away from scoreing zone. Its not as simple as blaming lack of composure. All parties have questions to answer, hopefully these can be addressed before next game.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 26/06/2019 18:53:26    2201402

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Quoting mdm "Andy McEntee is the best manager I have ever played under"."
Wow that's some praise, wonder what was the question and would love to hear the full interview.

Monkeycatcher (Meath) - Posts: 155 - 26/06/2019 19:04:45    2201406

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Don't worry you should get a good rest from all that driving very soon!"
I would think Cavan won't be going to far more this summer Donegal felt sorry for ye Sunday and let ye score a few at the end to take the bad look of it

meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 26/06/2019 21:43:08    2201478

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