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After Meaths hammering today people will be quick to put the boot in on Leinster. But of the 8 back door teams remaining , 4 are Leinster, 2 Ulster, 1 Munster and 1 connacht. Dublin have killed the Leinster championship itself , but the other teams in Leinster are a match for anyone. Kildare beat mayo last year. Meath almost beat Tyrone. Laois won away in derry yesterday. And on top of this many leinster teams are playing without key players due to the hopelesses of it all. If Dublin moved to any other province they would kill that province too. They are phenomenal. Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 753 - 23/06/2019 18:20:37 2199182 Link 7 |
Dublin haven't killed the Leinster championship, it's up to other Leinster counties to give them more to think about and improve and eventually beat them. Look at Cork last night putting Kerry to the pin of their collar. As you say the other teams are doing well in the qualifiers. They need to keep improving and strive to beat Dublin.Dublin have a psychological advantage over some counties who get to games with a 'sure we'll do our best' atitude rather than self-belief that they'll win. Now definitely they are formidable opponents with a great manger but some teams are affectively starting games against them three or four points down. Donegal and Kerry won All Irelands recently so a whole load of positivity in the head might reduce that big gap a bit and it might breed the confidence needed to knock the off their perch.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 23/06/2019 19:14:53 2199240 Link 13 |
The GAA have killed Leinster and possibly football in general..
Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 23/06/2019 19:41:45 2199274 Link 21 |
Shhhsssss, stop speaking with logic.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 23/06/2019 19:47:04 2199283 Link 3 |
How can you blame Dublin? Fact is Meath had all the chances today yet didnt take them. This game was more about how bad Meath were instead of how good Dublin were. Dublin only got going in the last quarter when Meath were drained. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 23/06/2019 19:48:03 2199286 Link 4 |
Brilliant post. If Dublin were taken out of leinster the standard of the province would improve dramatically. Suddenly 8 counties or so would have major honors to play for. And likewise if they were in another province winning it every year the standard would drop there too. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 23/06/2019 19:48:08 2199287 Link 7 |
Explain your comment.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 23/06/2019 20:01:44 2199303 Link 10 |
Excluding Dublin, there are alot of Leinster teams who are not bad, but it remains to be seen how many will make make the Super 8's. There are a cluster of Leinster teams in the 11 -16 ranking, but I can't think of any who would make the top 10. county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 23/06/2019 20:04:42 2199306 Link 8 |
Classic deflection. Meath have a lot of problems and cannot blame Dublin on them much as it suits.
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 23/06/2019 20:12:45 2199313 Link 2 |
It wouldn't be Leinster then. It'd be Leinster Tier 2 or whatver the top brass want to call it. Ye just got back to Division 1 and want to throw in the towel in leinster already after a poor display by the forwards today? McEnteee has a big hill to climb, as do other Leinster managers. But Boylan had a big hill to climb back in the day, beore you say it it's rare a genius like Boylan comes around but I see he's back as selector for the U20s. I live in Meath, moved from Kildare. I heard and hear apathy from Kidare supporters, hear a bit less from Meath supporters. To me ye are still Meath, tough people that don't quit. Come out swinging and angry and imrove the forward play and play football like you know Meath can and get into the Super 8s and build year after year for a proper Leinster title and more.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 23/06/2019 20:17:50 2199322 Link 9 |
You'll notice the Kildare v mayo match last year and the Meath v Tyrone match had one thing in common. They were both playing at home. Leinster teams are not allowed to do that against Dublin. Both Kildare and Meath are investing in Doing up their own county grounds. They would be better off building a new one together on the border in Lexlip big enough to play Dublin matches. That way they wouldnt always be disadvantaged against Dublin. Meath gave Dublin plenty of it for 50 mins but couldn't hit a donkey with a banjo. Each miss put more pressure on the next one as the Meath players felt they had to take every chance to beat Dublin. They just weren't physiologically up to it in the end. Had the game been in Navan, Meath wouldn't have panicked when they hit a wide and would have had much more confidence in themselves. In the IRB rugby rankings they say home advantage is with 10 points. I'd say home advantage in GAA is worth 4-5 points. No Leinster team has a chance of beating Dublin effectively starting 4 points down. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1091 - 23/06/2019 20:21:49 2199327 Link 5 |
You don't get it. If roscommon were in a province where they had to face the greatest team of all time in their back yard every year , they would soon tail off. Roscommon for example have a realistic shot at silverware. The rest of leinster didsnt.Galway won connacht last year and were embarrassed by Dublin, as were roscommon in the super 8s. They will face them again croke park this year And I predict it will be 10 to 15 points.And this is not an anti Dublin post. It's just a retaliation to the knocking the rest of Leinster gets.
Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 753 - 23/06/2019 20:22:12 2199329 Link 5 |
The quality of leinster is excellent at the moment I feel. There have been some very enjoyable games and some excellent performances. The proof will be in our representation in the super 8s as long as we dont get unlucky and knock eachother out. tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 145 - 23/06/2019 20:27:47 2199338 Link 5 |
Yes but of course it wouldn't. There are major honours to be played via the back door. What's the excuse? Donegal and Tyrone's Ulster dominance hasn't stifled the development of Cavan or Armagh, or Monaghan before that. Meath and Kildare have comparatively large populations yet in Meath's case score 4 points against a backfiring Dublin. Louth were much better than Meath. How can that be? As a single code county with a large population what are Meath doing with the money that they are getting and what are they doing with the great facilities that they have? Should the GAA throw €2m per annum at that dysfunctional mess? Sounds like they would buy magic beans with it.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4698 - 23/06/2019 20:29:24 2199342 Link 9 |
I remember being at the replayed Leinster final in 2004, when Westmeath won their first Leinster title, The scenes on the day were amazing & will stay with me always. greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 23/06/2019 20:35:14 2199346 Link 9 |
Throw on a Sky blue jersey there, I never saw a guy on here to be backing everything in relation to the Dubs, it's a laugh.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 23/06/2019 20:40:49 2199352 Link 8 |
Dubs won their first AI in 16 years in 2011. How much "financial doping" had taken place at that point? 11 of those 2011 players are still the backbone of today's magnificent panel. Perhaps the whingers should look closer to home for their excuses. I've a lot of respect for Mayo and Kerry because they put it up to the Dubs and so too have, and probably will again this year, Donegal. Dublin were terrible in the first half today. A half decent team would have led them by 3 or 4 points at HT. But no, "financial doping" was the reason why Meath created bucketfuls of chances and kicked them all wide. Honestly.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4698 - 23/06/2019 20:52:27 2199367 Link 7 |
Oh sorry you are right. Nothing to see. Move on.
greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 23/06/2019 21:01:33 2199384 Link 5 |
If we rotated a few teams out of Leinster & Ulster into Connacht and Munster to make it an even eight teams in each province, we could probably had the best provincial championship in living memory. shaggykev (Donegal) - Posts: 184 - 23/06/2019 21:10:11 2199394 Link 1 |
If the Meath team of the late 90s were in Leinster at the moment the Dubs would not have got to 3 in a row let alone aiming for 5 in a row. centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 23/06/2019 21:15:38 2199400 Link 2 |