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Hi all just wondering how various countys are looking
as we start this new development u20 leauge
theres seems to be a mixed reaction to this age group so far
theres apears to be a big drop off in some countys from the minor teams of 2017 to u20 team2019
this may be due to exams for example or players not having time
maybe some of those players will be back come championship time

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1054 - 28/05/2019 18:57:35    2188588

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Replying To rhudson:  "Hi all just wondering how various countys are looking
as we start this new development u20 leauge
theres seems to be a mixed reaction to this age group so far
theres apears to be a big drop off in some countys from the minor teams of 2017 to u20 team2019
this may be due to exams for example or players not having time
maybe some of those players will be back come championship time"
From a Donegal perspective the league is finished. Played 3 won 1 and lost 2. That win came with a health warning given the inexperienced Roscommon side they faced. Unfortunately it seems some of the best players are not committing including Aaron Doherty and Ethan Harkin. Plus young Oisin Gallen is injured with a possible eligibility issue likely given his involvement with the seniors. I was optimistic about this team esp as the U-17's from 2 years ago were closely matched with Tyrone when at full strength. The same Tyrone side won the AI. My pessimism is from seeing the latter half of Donegal's league game with Tyrone. Tyrone were quite simply a class above and will likely fight out Ulster with Derry. Not sure how Derry are fixed with players going to Oz etc but still should be strong. As for the competition itself still in its infancy but it is a far cry from the U-21 championship. This eligibility criteria is nonsense and astounding it passed. The final last year had little coverage given its timing which says it all. Plus fair to say the minor championship has lost alot of its allure as well which is a pity.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2162 - 29/05/2019 00:22:44    2188693

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Whatever about the 20s the minors are a waste of time. Players are still kids and not developed. That year makes a huge difference.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 380 - 29/05/2019 01:09:43    2188698

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Replying To TheRock2121:  "Whatever about the 20s the minors are a waste of time. Players are still kids and not developed. That year makes a huge difference."
Agree. Minor should have gone U19 if leaving very clash was the problem with U18 and do away with U20.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1164 - 29/05/2019 09:32:34    2188733

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Several problems with u20 grade, 1/ league clashes with leaving cert, 2/ league squeezed into 3 week period 3/ players getting game time in snr can't play at their own grade untill snrs eliminated which hits smaller counties harder

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 424 - 29/05/2019 12:31:05    2188779

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Where can the fixtures for these games be found?

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 829 - 29/05/2019 12:37:05    2188783

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Good win for Laois today vs defending champions Kildare.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2906 - 26/06/2019 01:16:34    2201025

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Replying To TheRock2121:  "Whatever about the 20s the minors are a waste of time. Players are still kids and not developed. That year makes a huge difference."
Both competition's are a waste of time, u21 and minor grades should never have been replaced

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 461 - 26/06/2019 09:32:36    2201077

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Great win for laois last night very welcomed indeed

Hootie (Laois) - Posts: 31 - 26/06/2019 09:52:45    2201086

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Galway are awesome...... unless we lose.... then I'll have an excuse ready.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 441 - 26/06/2019 14:12:29    2201259

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Replying To totalrecall:  "Both competition's are a waste of time, u21 and minor grades should never have been replaced"
i have to agree there
they haven't thought this out at all
whats happened now is a lot of lads are doing the leaving cert at an older age than in previous years
so a load of 18 and 19 yr old have opted out of various teams because of this
in fact the u21 was a great competetition
the big issue was the overuse of the talented palyers
that is instead of leaving them alone to play college and u21
the senior managers were expecting them to play on the sunday as well
even though they had a panel of 30lads already in there mid to late 20s
they didn't need to play those u21s until they were finished their own competition

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1054 - 26/06/2019 15:46:14    2201312

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For a 2nd year in a row the timing and schedule of U20 competition is madness. Round 1 for us tonight and up to ten players won't be togged tonight because they were involved in exams and were unable to take part in any training. If we our Leitrim was to reach the Connacht final it would be 3 matches in 14 days while Galway and Mayo have one less game where is the sense in that?

Lets be honest this competition is a watered down version of the U21 championship whereby some of its best players aren't even playing in it (Kerry for example had no Sean O'Shea and Clifford last year) U18 changing to U17 i could somewhat understand but U21 should never have been allowed to be scrapped.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 2571 - 26/06/2019 16:08:53    2201330

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Replying To Hootie:  "Great win for laois last night very welcomed indeed"
Reports suggest they were very impressive.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 1270 - 26/06/2019 18:56:24    2201403

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Galway are awesome...... unless we lose.... then I'll have an excuse ready."
Our mgt team for that grade are awesome. Hopefully the talented u20's we have will follow through on their promise.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1640 - 26/06/2019 21:21:26    2201466

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Defending u20 champions Derry beat Armagh and will face Fermanagh in the semi final after they beat Donegal.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2906 - 29/06/2019 03:57:47    2202252

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Meath beat Offaly by 3 points to advance to the semi final vs Laois. Dublin beat Longford in Longford by 26 points.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2906 - 03/07/2019 12:29:33    2204854

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Galway have to be 1 of the favorites for this competition, they beat us and beat the dubs well by all accounts, we finished second in the group beating the dubs and drawing with Cork we didn't get to play Kildare.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9830 - 03/07/2019 21:07:14    2205139

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Galway have to be 1 of the favorites for this competition, they beat us and beat the dubs well by all accounts, we finished second in the group beating the dubs and drawing with Cork we didn't get to play Kildare."
We have a good panel, but it's very hard to read too much into the pre-season competitions, especially underage.
We didn't have it all our own way this evening against Roscommon. Mayo put a big beating on Sligo in the other semi. It can be hard to predict form at this level. There's also the old-fashioned straight knockout format, which can make it more unpredictable.
You see very few teams walking an All-Ireland at U20/U21. It always tends to be very competitive.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 580 - 03/07/2019 21:16:36    2205149

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Replying To The_analyser:  "For a 2nd year in a row the timing and schedule of U20 competition is madness. Round 1 for us tonight and up to ten players won't be togged tonight because they were involved in exams and were unable to take part in any training. If we our Leitrim was to reach the Connacht final it would be 3 matches in 14 days while Galway and Mayo have one less game where is the sense in that?

Lets be honest this competition is a watered down version of the U21 championship whereby some of its best players aren't even playing in it (Kerry for example had no Sean O'Shea and Clifford last year) U18 changing to U17 i could somewhat understand but U21 should never have been allowed to be scrapped."
Hardly a watered down competition because some lads progress to the senior ranks quicker. Roscommon are to busy winning at senior level to compete in the U20s.

Galway2019 (Galway) - Posts: 55 - 03/07/2019 21:26:19    2205154

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Pay no need to that development rubbish......Dublin and Kerry are far superior to the rest at the under 20 grade this year.

Rayo1 (Galway) - Posts: 140 - 03/07/2019 21:30:23    2205156

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