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Ok, I didn't agree with the statement he made when walking away. But he is back enjoying his football with Skryne so who knows he could have a change of heart. He had his fair share of moments and lost the head from time to time but he is 10 times better than the keepers we have now.
summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 315 - 14/05/2019 20:48:50 2184124 Link 0 |
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Its the biggest single issue in the team atm. There were 2/3 kickout howlers in a row vs. Offaly, one of which may have been a goal chance and would probably have been a goal against a top side. They still scored 2 points for definite off of really poor kickouts. I agree, there does not seem to be a strategy. In the 2nd half we allowed them a lot of short kick outs so we could sit back and strangle possession back in the rough area between our 45 metre line and the edge of the D. In fairness its ugly viewing but this Meath team has largely made it work all season with quick, snappy counter attacking play. However agsinst Offaly there was precious little of that bar a period of 5 minutes near the end when Offaly were dead on their feet. Im midfield we were atrocious, cleaned out. The inclusion of Flanagan in the 2nd half helped but not hugely. Its a crying shame because with two quality midfielders Meath could really be a competitive side. Its just not where it needs to be atm unfortunately. Colgan panicked for the howlers. Every season in various games, the spotlight turns onto keepers if they fluff up and the pressure makes it very easy for them to make repeat mistakes. Theyre amateurs and not conditioned to react with boos and jeers etc especially repeatedly over sustained periods, its like asking for a panic attack. You can sense their panic and unease through a TV screen nevermind sitting at a ground watching a game. I wouldnt give creedence to the posters asking for his head. Give him a chance. Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 14/05/2019 21:06:47 2184128 Link 19 |
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If there is no kick out strategy (which I don't know if there is or not) I cannot see the benefit of changing the goalkeeper. Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 14/05/2019 22:03:35 2184151 Link 19 |
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He walked out and burned his bridges as he left. He was good under a high ball that's true. But apart from that I would rate him as average. And when you put that with his comments as he left which were disheartening at best then I think he is best left alone.
cabbage (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 14/05/2019 22:29:52 2184163 Link 1 |
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I think too much is made of it re kick outs. Colgan could have just taken it short instead of booting it long, it was at least 2 attempted long kick outs which he miskicked. In the next game he could just play it safe and hit it short if we are so worried about him misfiring. The fact it Offaly were killing us at that stage, kick outs or no. And I don't think we should scapegoat the goalkeeper. I felt the problem was one of intensity. And you know, I even felt it in the crowd, a degree of complacency. We expected to win, and when it came down to being pinned to our collar we upped our game and won. Even playing badly we were clearly the better team. I was surprised the Sunday game were saying Offaly were better over the 70 mins I thought we looked far more dangerous but kept mishitting the final or penultimate pass. cabbage (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 14/05/2019 22:35:08 2184167 Link 1 |
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No. Absolutely not.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/05/2019 22:58:49 2184171 Link 0 |
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Not often I agree with you. But I do on this. Absolutely toxic to bring him back. And tbh not only to the management, back room set up, the Jersey the county but also to the supporters, and most importantly of all his team mates who he let down in the most disgusting way possible. Never let him near ANY county team.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/05/2019 23:04:48 2184172 Link 1 |
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Rubbish....we upped our game, nonsense, even with Offaly's stamina on the wane it was a very lucky break when the goalkeeper fluffed his lines that we got our noses in front and even then we did not kill the game. Look it was a continuation of the second half against Donegal.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1062 - 14/05/2019 23:14:33 2184174 Link 2 |
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You hit a good point there. There was certainly a complacency around the place. Which is criminal given our form in the last 4/5 years. I admit I was complacent myself and watched most of the game in bemused silence. Its become symbolic of Meath as of late, like it or not, we have very litte modesty. We naturally rate ourselves highly and its one of our greatest assets but also one of our greatest weaknesses. It was a contributory factor to the game. The more I think about it the more I want to just forget it and wipe the slate clear for Carlow.
Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 15/05/2019 07:09:52 2184199 Link 17 |
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In fairness we had the gap down to 1 with about ten minutes left to play. I think even without the goal we would have gone on to win it. But here, who knows what would have happened. We are all of us just speculating and offering opinions. No one really knows what might have otherwise happened
cabbage (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 15/05/2019 09:15:59 2184218 Link 0 |
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I think we need to just up the performance and intensity overall. We haven't become a bad team overnight. Lads here are already dissecting the team after one game which we won playing poorly, something we did back often back in the good ol days. I know we're not getting the best out of some but getting through a game like that will have been a chastening experience for some and hopefully they'll sharpen up next time. I've seen us lose enough times lately to suddenly lose patience after a win. It takes time and it's a learning experience for all involved and we as supporters need to get behind them and exert the right kind of pressure that helps them improve. We know as we've seen in the league if we get behind this team they will produce results even if the performance isn't always up to standard for 70 minutes. LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 452 - 15/05/2019 09:18:47 2184221 Link 1 |
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Exactly. We were nowhere near our best in that game and very few seem to admit we hell of a lot better. And have shown that time and time again
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/05/2019 10:42:30 2184253 Link 0 |
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Well what is our best then?? That has to be the question that needs to be asked? Look at the Donegal game! completely out played once Donegal got their act together. Lose to a half a Donegal team. Offaly a bottom Div 3 team out play us for 50 minutes. We are far from a top county and the results back this point up. Have their been improvements this year, without doubt but lets not be fooling ourselves, their is plenty of work to be done if we are to make the Super 8s, Dublin Kerry Mayo Galway Tyrone Donegal Roscommon Monaghan are streets ahead of us. juicy (Meath) - Posts: 399 - 15/05/2019 11:56:04 2184271 Link 2 |
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The Offaly game reminded me a lot of the game last year against longford. The big difference being that we lost that game and then had to play Tyrone next but look at how brilliant we played against Tyrone. We definitely played way below what we're capable of and I think we're going to show that against Carlow. Meath to win by 6+ meathalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 15/05/2019 12:00:29 2184273 Link 0 |
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I think we're all in agreement that the team need to improve to compete in Division 1 and reach the last 8. Our best performances would be first half against Donegal and second half against Kildare. But ultimately we need to become a bit more savvy and adaptive to deal with teams like Donegal. We're not there yet so it's something we have to develop. These things require time and experience to fully materialize. But for now against Carlow we need to just up the intensity and effort across the board to make sure we are in control of the game. As Cian Ward said on Mondays podcast with Woolly we're not good enough to be less than fully committed in every game. LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 452 - 15/05/2019 13:17:29 2184288 Link 0 |
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He is my take on why we where off on Sunday. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 15/05/2019 13:59:12 2184305 Link 0 |
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Might well be a lot of truth in what you say. Meath blitzed teams with power and fitness in the second half of matches during the league. For me it was not superior forward play or tactical superiority that got us promoted, it was our fitness - likes of Keoghan, Menton, O'Sullivan and J McEntee running hard when the game was there for the taking late in the second half of matches against likes of Armagh, Cork and Kildare. This was enough to get us promoted but it may well come with a price to be paid in this years championship. Other teams will be as fit as us and we may well have already peaked. Personally, I'm not terribly bothered by how well we do in the championship, the goals for the year for me have already been achieved. If we are to improve as an intercounty team, we needed to be in Div 1. Being in Div 1 not only provides better competition, it also keeps players more interested and we're likely to see less lads dropping off when big games under lights against Dublin and Kerry are on the agenda. Next year I think you''ll see us take the league very seriously again to try and remain in Div 1. Don't get me wrong, if we managed to get into the super 8s this summer I'd be delighted but I'm not sure management planned for the championship necessarily at the start of the year - time will tell. Our summer will be all about whether or not we can build momentum. Some hard fought wins against likes of Carlow will help build that. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1316 - 15/05/2019 15:11:41 2184326 Link 20 |
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Me and Royaldunne said something similar BEFORE the game and were abused for mentioning it. Good to see somebody noticed it.#
Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 15/05/2019 16:40:11 2184354 Link 17 |
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Nonsense. We tired in second half v donegal, (or is it only Offaly that can tire??). WE are ahead of Roscommon to say otherwise is bs. We not that far off donegal (ulster champs) Tyrone (all ire finalists) results PROVE THIS , we are not at the level of Kerry mayo and certainly not dubs (but then is anyone??) we are in the top ten, but none and I mean no one is suggesting we can compete for all ire. Or Leinster due to dubs been in it.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/05/2019 17:16:19 2184364 Link 1 |
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Yep. That is it. Both me and Barney said as much before game and nearly got lynched over it
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/05/2019 17:19:35 2184367 Link 0 |