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Your wishes have been granted Riverboys. Brolly dropped for replay. Rochford takes his chair!"
I hope Brollys dropping was down to his own schedule and not some PC nonsense from RTE. Brolly says it how he sees it, Not always right, certainly not always wrong. Thats life. If we start eliminating people from our screens who say something the majority think opposite then we will never have diverse debate again. So what he got the Gough thing wrong- get over it."
This post makes zero sense. It has nothing to do with being PC or anyone disagreeing with his opinions, it's that he is encapable of being objective when it comes to Dublin, he all but wears a blue jersey and it massively clouds his judgement. On the cooper sending off, he seen several replays of the incident and not only did he claim it wasn't a foul but claimed it was a free out. He said this for either of two reasons:
1. He was biased towards Dublin

2. He is an extremely poor pundit

Either way, he isn't doing his job properly and deserves to be removed.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1560 - 11/09/2019 07:13:30    2234278

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In Joe's favour, he's passionate, he's argumentative and he wears his heart on his sleeve. It's entertainment at the end of the day and these are the perfect ingredients. We don't want scripted MOTD type analysis where the pundits are speaking from cue cards and given guidance with respect to who they can and can't criticize. The most memorable pundit GAA moments on RTE have involved Brolly. A sterile trio, with Whelo championing the Dublin cause, Spillane playing the yerra cute hoor and Rochford being the Mother Teresa in the middle, doesn't exactly spark much enthusiasm to tune in to RTE.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4025 - 11/09/2019 08:44:44    2234290

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Reported this morning brolly gone from RTE for good. Long overdue every appearance was more about himself than the actual game. Can't recall the last time he did decent analysis. All sound bites repeated over and over and his hostility to Joanne cantwell can't have gone unnoticed. His comments about David Gough at half time in the drawn match were a disgrace. He can't engage in debate about the game without the over the top look at me reactions. Rochford will be a much better pundit as he is a current coach. Someone like malachy o rourke would make a good pundit also and impressed when on during the summer.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1392 - 11/09/2019 09:25:16    2234296

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "This is humiliation for Brolly. He has lost face and I can't see how he could appear on the programme again. Having said that The Sunday Game is simply dreadful now. It has lost the authority of Michael Lyster as Joanne Cantwell is more like a prim, humourless school teacher. If Brolly has been dropped because he offended people then Spillane should have been off years ago. He has spent 2 decades badmouthing, disrespecting and offending Ulster players, counties and fans. RTE seem to think that's OK."
RTE have never given a monkeys about offending Ulster people in general. I agree Spillane is a dinosaur who should be put out to grass also. His plainly hostile attitude to ulster football and teams over the years is long past it's sell by date.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1392 - 11/09/2019 09:34:49    2234305

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Replying To seanie08:  "Reported this morning brolly gone from RTE for good. Long overdue every appearance was more about himself than the actual game. Can't recall the last time he did decent analysis. All sound bites repeated over and over and his hostility to Joanne cantwell can't have gone unnoticed. His comments about David Gough at half time in the drawn match were a disgrace. He can't engage in debate about the game without the over the top look at me reactions. Rochford will be a much better pundit as he is a current coach. Someone like malachy o rourke would make a good pundit also and impressed when on during the summer."
Seriously Malachy O'Rourke? jes I'd be pressing the mute button every time he spoke like I do now with Morrisey and Dolan,
O'Rourke is a good manager but he hasn't the voice for tv punditry, I think you'll see RTE drafting in some of the nearly men from Mayo that have retired as occasional pundits now.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 765 - 11/09/2019 14:50:14    2234452

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Replying To seanie08:  "RTE have never given a monkeys about offending Ulster people in general. I agree Spillane is a dinosaur who should be put out to grass also. His plainly hostile attitude to ulster football and teams over the years is long past it's sell by date."
But then you're advocating censorship and that's not right either. Pundits should be allowed give their views. If Spillane think that some Ulster teams play "puke" football then he's entitled to say that. I'd rather that then have him pretend that it's great entertainment and we should all be grateful for it. Pundits should be allowed to say what they see without fear of being sacked because some snowflakes felt offended and sent an email to RTE.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4025 - 11/09/2019 14:59:45    2234456

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Replying To Joxer:  "But then you're advocating censorship and that's not right either. Pundits should be allowed give their views. If Spillane think that some Ulster teams play "puke" football then he's entitled to say that. I'd rather that then have him pretend that it's great entertainment and we should all be grateful for it. Pundits should be allowed to say what they see without fear of being sacked because some snowflakes felt offended and sent an email to RTE."
I'd agree with that, but Brolly talks rubbish just for the sake of it seems and that's not being genuine either, a man should call it as he see's it by all means.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 765 - 11/09/2019 15:15:12    2234467

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I like to tune in to watch Ursula Jacob.
I nearly set the house on fire ripping a waste oil burner and watching her at the same time.

Dessie_Cross (Armagh) - Posts: 139 - 11/09/2019 15:55:33    2234478

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Replying To Dessie_Cross:  "I like to tune in to watch Ursula Jacob.
I nearly set the house on fire ripping a waste oil burner and watching her at the same time."
Once you turn the sound off, that accent.......

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 752 - 11/09/2019 17:32:05    2234513

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I'd agree with that, but Brolly talks rubbish just for the sake of it seems and that's not being genuine either, a man should call it as he see's it by all means."
Yeah Brolly lost the plot and at the end of the day it was all about publicising Joe. One of the best self-publicists on Irish TV, after the master, Eamon Dunphy, of course. It helps to sell newspapers after-all and if you're a newspaper columnist then that's no harm.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4025 - 11/09/2019 18:43:27    2234529

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I think if The Sunday Game is to survive it urgently needs a presenter and pundits who command respect. I would most certainly agree that someone like Dara O'Cinneide would fit the bill as presenter. He knows his stuff, has authority and would have respect of many Gaels right across the island. Joanne Cantwell is just not cutting the mustard, she presents the show like a strict school teacher looking after 15 year olds and has no humour whatsoever.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9194 - 11/09/2019 19:42:13    2234550

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "I think if The Sunday Game is to survive it urgently needs a presenter and pundits who command respect. I would most certainly agree that someone like Dara O'Cinneide would fit the bill as presenter. He knows his stuff, has authority and would have respect of many Gaels right across the island. Joanne Cantwell is just not cutting the mustard, she presents the show like a strict school teacher looking after 15 year olds and has no humour whatsoever."
O' Cinneide would have been the job, anything I've seen him present before on TG4 etc he's been good on it. Joanne Cantwell just grates on me more and more the longer the season has gone up. Like a narky teacher on a Monday morning.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 752 - 11/09/2019 21:51:12    2234588

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Replying To Bon:  "O' Cinneide would have been the job, anything I've seen him present before on TG4 etc he's been good on it. Joanne Cantwell just grates on me more and more the longer the season has gone up. Like a narky teacher on a Monday morning."
Me too. She is worse than Brolly for interrupting and that is saying something.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 358 - 12/09/2019 09:09:08    2234643

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When will rte get it. No one wants to hear pundits talking over each other, or presenters either. You get you chance to express your opinion and then it is over to the other person who has the right to contradict without interference. If these simple house rules were observed all the pundits would be more measured, accurate and understandable for the international audience also. I constantly get asked what language are they speaking. It is like a pub discussion with the shouting etc. In fact sometimes the pub discussion is more in tune.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 636 - 12/09/2019 18:19:42    2234837

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I'd give Joanne Cantwell a break. She's been doing a difficult job looking after 3 bickering aul wans. I hope she's getting the full carer's allowance

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 890 - 13/09/2019 15:45:25    2235039

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I'm baffled by all this complaining - I've often disagreed with commentators, but not to the extent that I'd campaign for their removal. I enjoy the arguments and the OTT statements. Pat and Joe have ripped into Tyrone for years but so what I'd still like to see them in place. I think Pat in recent years has muzzled himself to an extent and is therefore not as much crack as he used to be, but not Joe who remains a genuine loose cannon. I'd say let he who is without bias cast the first stone etc. Would rule out most HS posters, that's for sure, including me. There's an argument for more variety in presenters - I'd like to see a mix of explainers and pot-stirrers; but something about no-platforming to appease the Internet lynch mobs doesn't sit well with me.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 589 - 13/09/2019 19:15:02    2235085

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Replying To essmac:  "I'm baffled by all this complaining - I've often disagreed with commentators, but not to the extent that I'd campaign for their removal. I enjoy the arguments and the OTT statements. Pat and Joe have ripped into Tyrone for years but so what I'd still like to see them in place. I think Pat in recent years has muzzled himself to an extent and is therefore not as much crack as he used to be, but not Joe who remains a genuine loose cannon. I'd say let he who is without bias cast the first stone etc. Would rule out most HS posters, that's for sure, including me. There's an argument for more variety in presenters - I'd like to see a mix of explainers and pot-stirrers; but something about no-platforming to appease the Internet lynch mobs doesn't sit well with me."
Almost a perfect post, - - I've noticed since the sky deal thing became a hot topic, coincidently the Sunday game slowly became a punch bag, and its faults were multiplying by the day, then the focus was slowly on the panel one by one and that was while Michael Lyster was in the hot seat, coincidently again soon after Michael Lyster "retired" the critism of the S G panel became more personal and sometimes a bit ott. Brolly took the blunt of it even though Brolly has left he's still taking the blunt of it, that's something like kicking someone when there down, imo what's common to all of this is since Michael Lyster left the hot seat the show has lost it's way, so too it appears has some of it's critics.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 1949 - 13/09/2019 23:26:35    2235128

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How about adding Eamon Donohue to the commentary ticket for 2020? He done an outstanding job on the Wexford v Louth championship highlights back in May ....... NOT!

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 5 - 14/09/2019 00:10:08    2235133

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Replying To Dessie_Cross:  "I like to tune in to watch Ursula Jacob.
I nearly set the house on fire ripping a waste oil burner and watching her at the same time."
Yes she is eyecatching alright! But does know her stuff.

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 5 - 14/09/2019 00:11:48    2235134

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Replying To essmac:  "I'm baffled by all this complaining - I've often disagreed with commentators, but not to the extent that I'd campaign for their removal. I enjoy the arguments and the OTT statements. Pat and Joe have ripped into Tyrone for years but so what I'd still like to see them in place. I think Pat in recent years has muzzled himself to an extent and is therefore not as much crack as he used to be, but not Joe who remains a genuine loose cannon. I'd say let he who is without bias cast the first stone etc. Would rule out most HS posters, that's for sure, including me. There's an argument for more variety in presenters - I'd like to see a mix of explainers and pot-stirrers; but something about no-platforming to appease the Internet lynch mobs doesn't sit well with me."
Are you serious? There is no one trying to lynch anyone. Only expressing an opinion on the quality of a service we pay for. These ex players are supposed to be analyzing the game as informed pundits. If we want a comedy show we can find one. If we want drama queens we can look else where. Yes we are all biased but that does not justify paid analysts with an audience of over 1 million touting their own agenda (county and biases). I am sure proper unbiased ones can be found who can disagree on matters but to hear these guys (hurling and football) arguing over a ruling that a three year old can see, is not what we pay our money for.
Being themselves is actually a poor excuse for dishing out tripe to us the customer. It is actually sad to see former great players destroy their image. The bar needs to be set a lot higher.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 636 - 14/09/2019 01:04:58    2235139

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