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Replying To Andy:  "Hmm pretty sure that is total disrespect to Laois. Lot of people here already assuming that Meath are in the final. Slight favourites obviously but let's play the semi first like!!"
Sorry Andy I don't mean to be disrespectful to Laois. I just feel that Meath will win. Had the game been this time last year then I would have fancied Laois to shade it.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2946 - 03/06/2019 15:44:06    2190215

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Replying To Andy:  "Hmm pretty sure that is total disrespect to Laois. Lot of people here already assuming that Meath are in the final. Slight favourites obviously but let's play the semi first like!!"
We know in Meath how hard laois will be to beat .When laois r going well they are tough opposition in leinster. 2 promotions in 2 years laois have won 11 or 12 games in two years. Laois sud never have been in div 4. Laois were in div 3 this year but laois are a div 2 team easily. And if laois played Meath last year laois wud have won. Both teams r going in right direction but Meath are just bit more down the road. If Meath play like they did v Donegal in Ballybofey or like they v Armagh both in the league. Which was really top class quality football. Meath will.win. If Meath play like they did v Offaly Laois will.win. It is a 50 50 game with Meath slight favourites.

I dont think anyone in Meath underestimates laois. Loais r Meaths bogey team. Kildare and Dublin r rivalries. Meaths record v rest of leinster is really good. While Meaths record in championship v counties outside leinster is also very good over the decades. Laois have always been a thorn in Meaths side. Laois have had 4 victories over Meath in 40 years. Only kildare and Dublin have more in the country. Laois in last 40 years have the third best record v Meath in the championship in the whole country. Only Dublin and kildare have beaten Meath more. And all significant victories.
The laois victory in 1985, Sean Boylan resigned afterwards and only the players convinced him to stay. The next victory by laois over Meath in 92 ended the great Meath team of 87 88. That was Mick Lyons Liam Hayes liam Harnan last ever game for Meath. Victory for laois in 2003 also ended the great Meath team of 96 and 99. And players like Ollie Murphy and Mark Reilly never played for Meath again. And the last laois victory in 2012 ended Bantys career as manager of Meath. So in Meath we respect and know how hard laois are to beat. Always tough opposition when they r going well. I expect laois to throw kitchen sink at Meath on Sunday , players like Carroll and kingston are top class. I will be confident Meath can win. But I am.and always am very wary when we play u boys from laois.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 815 - 03/06/2019 17:18:34    2190248

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Replying To Andy:  "Hmm pretty sure that is total disrespect to Laois. Lot of people here already assuming that Meath are in the final. Slight favourites obviously but let's play the semi first like!!"
Meath and laois have played 26 times in the championship. 1 draw. 18 Meath victories and 7 victories for laois. Only Dublin kildare and louth have beaten Meath more in the championship. And in the last 50 years only kildare and Dublin have beaten Meath more in the All Ireland championship then laois. So traditionally laois have always been tough opposition for Meath. Also the same for kildare and Dublin. They have a real good record v kildare. And after Meath in last 45 years laois have the next best record v the Dubs in leinster, joint second best record in leinster v Dubs. In the last 45 laois have 2 victories over Dublin the same number as Offaly and Kildare have v Dublin in the championship. Meath wud have 9 victories over Dublin in the championship in the same period. Laois in general nearly always put it up to Dublin kildare and Meath traditionally.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 815 - 03/06/2019 17:32:00    2190257

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Fair points Furlong and lilywhite1. Going by current form Meath should see it through in fairness, they are in great form from the league campaign and they are motoring along nicely now with 2 wins already in the championship.
The more Leinster counties in division 1 the better so I was delighted to see Meath get there, hopefully Kildare and Laois (and others) might follow suit in years to come. Playing top quality opposition year in year out would bring all counties on no end.
There has been so much talk about making tiered championships and (nonsense) talk about splitting Dublin, but how fecking awesome would it be if all counties made the province competitive again as a result of hard graft, effort and just a bit of initiative.

Andy (Laois) - Posts: 371 - 03/06/2019 19:06:44    2190281

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Replying To Andy:  "Hmm pretty sure that is total disrespect to Laois. Lot of people here already assuming that Meath are in the final. Slight favourites obviously but let's play the semi first like!!"
I think Meath v Laois is a 50/50 game, there is confidence around Meath at the minute after gaining promotion but we certainly aren't taking Laois for granted, that would be a huge mistake. If we're not up for this game or if we start thinking about a Leinster final before sunday then we will be beaten by Laois simple as that.

On the other hand I think if we perform then we'll be in with a good chance of winning on sunday, but who knows, only time will tell.

We haven't won a game in Croke Park since beating Kildare in 2014, haven't even played a championship game there since Dublin in 2016, so we don't have any form there to go by.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8186 - 03/06/2019 19:15:30    2190283

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Replying To TheUsername:  "2/1 with Paddy Power. All over that."
Better off throwing it in the fire. More chance of getting it back. :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15771 - 03/06/2019 19:26:11    2190286

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Replying To Andy:  "Fair points Furlong and lilywhite1. Going by current form Meath should see it through in fairness, they are in great form from the league campaign and they are motoring along nicely now with 2 wins already in the championship.
The more Leinster counties in division 1 the better so I was delighted to see Meath get there, hopefully Kildare and Laois (and others) might follow suit in years to come. Playing top quality opposition year in year out would bring all counties on no end.
There has been so much talk about making tiered championships and (nonsense) talk about splitting Dublin, but how fecking awesome would it be if all counties made the province competitive again as a result of hard graft, effort and just a bit of initiative."
Totally agree. Would love to see both Laois and Kildare promoted next year with Meath retaining div 1 status. It could only be good for the province.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15771 - 03/06/2019 19:29:31    2190289

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Totally agree. Would love to see both Laois and Kildare promoted next year with Meath retaining div 1 status. It could only be good for the province."
Feck the province, only one border that counts in this sport :D
As for Laois? Watch out RD, wouldn't write them off at all.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7523 - 03/06/2019 20:05:55    2190301

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Looking at next years league, there really is an even split of the provinces across the four divisions.

The goal of the 3 Leinster teams in divisions 2, 3 and 4, should be competing for promotion, rather than battling against relegation, which has often been the case.

For arguments sake, if you swapped Cork and Monaghan, it would be a very even split across the leagues.

I do hope the Leinster counties get stronger, but if they do, someone else is going to lose out, and how long before 'Ulster are poorly represented at the top table' etc gets trotted out?

Behind almost every argument on here is the basic fact that some counties are stronger than others, some have better players/facilities/support...

And this will never change.

There will only be one winner of the big prize. One winner, and the rest are losers. That is sport. What it boils down to is, how many games do counties play and lose before they are happy to be knocked out?

m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1073 - 03/06/2019 20:25:56    2190310

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Replying To realdub:  "Feck the province, only one border that counts in this sport :D
As for Laois? Watch out RD, wouldn't write them off at all."
Not writing them off. Even taking off my green and gold glasses, Meath are a couple of years ahead in the development, we have a settled team and strength in depth this year, compared to previous years. But Laois will be a good test of that I have no doubt. But mcentee will be fully focused on them, of that I have no doubt.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15771 - 03/06/2019 21:13:29    2190323

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