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I think that some of the best games of football over last couple of years has been in Leinster (obviously not involving Dublin) so looking forward to more of the same. Think it will be a Kildare v dubs, Meath be Westmeath semi finals, with both Dublin and Meath in the final.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 09/04/2019 13:48:53    2178212

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Great league for most Leinster counties, Meath back in Div 1, Westmeath winning their division and the O Byrne Cup, Laois getting back to back promotions, while Kildare were in the S8s last year.

Great to see Leinster counties kick on.

Dublin have Kildare and Meath on their side of the draw all going according to plan, which im delighted about so we will play a S8 team and Div 1 team in the provincials all according to plan, via a trip to either Wexford park or Portlaoise. If we get beat it will be a bit of craic in through the back door and we would probably land in Group 1 for the S8's, with Kerry, Galway/Mayo and Tyrone, which would be really great really fun, part of me wishes for it.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 09/04/2019 14:33:41    2178223

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TheUsername, on the basis of what Kildare have shown in the league we are miles off being a Super 8 team. Dublin will wipe the floor with us without breaking sweat......& that's even assuming we get that far, which is far from a certainty. It has been a good year so far for Leinster football in general but Kildare can't be included in that.

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 09/04/2019 19:57:59    2178276

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Replying To KildareKelly:  "TheUsername, on the basis of what Kildare have shown in the league we are miles off being a Super 8 team. Dublin will wipe the floor with us without breaking sweat......& that's even assuming we get that far, which is far from a certainty. It has been a good year so far for Leinster football in general but Kildare can't be included in that."
It's still early though a chara and Kildare have showed progression every year under Cian O Neill in one form another.

I didn't see much of them during the league, just kept an eye on results, where there many lads from the All Ireland U 20 win brought through? Some team they destroyed us and we did a job on Meath in the game before. Is Hyland seeing action? Did I hear Daniel Flynn was knocking about Johnstown Bridge again?

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 09/04/2019 22:36:40    2178299

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Replying To TheUsername:  "It's still early though a chara and Kildare have showed progression every year under Cian O Neill in one form another.

I didn't see much of them during the league, just kept an eye on results, where there many lads from the All Ireland U 20 win brought through? Some team they destroyed us and we did a job on Meath in the game before. Is Hyland seeing action? Did I hear Daniel Flynn was knocking about Johnstown Bridge again?"
The results weren't terrible but the performances were pretty bad. We just look like a team without a plan, without any real energy and the players look to go be going through the motions a bit. It was just very flat & hard to watch. Some of the u20s have seen action, Jimmy Hyland the most & has done well.
Dan Flynn is back but a) not too interested in coming back on board & b) there is a rumour he's done his cruciate anyway.

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 10/04/2019 08:48:12    2178315

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Meath have a lot to prove, they've had a great league campaign but won't be convinced until the championship. They started back earlier on then everyone else and you only have to look at what happened to Roscommon a few years ago when they did that.

JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 10/04/2019 09:56:10    2178324

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Replying To KildareKelly:  "The results weren't terrible but the performances were pretty bad. We just look like a team without a plan, without any real energy and the players look to go be going through the motions a bit. It was just very flat & hard to watch. Some of the u20s have seen action, Jimmy Hyland the most & has done well.
Dan Flynn is back but a) not too interested in coming back on board & b) there is a rumour he's done his cruciate anyway."
Kildare could be anything really, its always hard to know, top form they can give Dublin a game and beat the Mayos of this world but then you can have a game like Carlow. You would suspect at this stage of development for them that Championship would really get the blood flowing, it always takes a year or maybe two for U20 lads to hit consistency at this level, but that team is going to be added to fair bit of talent. that a pity about D. Flynn, i always felt N. Flynn had more in his locker then he showed at this stage, he was a star at underage was a huge a fan of his. A good year for Leinster would see three teams make the S8's. You would look at Kildare, Meath and Dublin, but Laois and Westmeath have been going about good business quietly.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 10/04/2019 10:16:33    2178330

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I think that some of the best games of football over last couple of years has been in Leinster (obviously not involving Dublin) so looking forward to more of the same. Think it will be a Kildare v dubs, Meath be Westmeath semi finals, with both Dublin and Meath in the final."
And Meath to fiiiiiinally beat the Dubs in a senior Leinster final again, right? ;)

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 10/04/2019 12:46:35    2178354

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Have to admire your effort, but you cant make this upcoming Leinster Championship interesting for the neutral no matter how hard you try. Infact, Its that hard, I reckon youd manage to find a corner in a circle room + get blood out of a stone easier. The biggest forgone conclusion since last years Leinster final, and the leinster final before that, and the leinster final before that...etc.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 10/04/2019 17:07:09    2178375

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Replying To Dubsfan28:  "And Meath to fiiiiiinally beat the Dubs in a senior Leinster final again, right? ;)"
Ahh sure we will wait and see. :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/04/2019 17:38:37    2178376

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Replying To waynoI:  "Have to admire your effort, but you cant make this upcoming Leinster Championship interesting for the neutral no matter how hard you try. Infact, Its that hard, I reckon youd manage to find a corner in a circle room + get blood out of a stone easier. The biggest forgone conclusion since last years Leinster final, and the leinster final before that, and the leinster final before that...etc."
Not sure the overall championship is important though, im not really sure any of the provincials are these days to be honest. The S8's and beyond is where its at.

For other Leinster counties i think its a pain in the rear having Dublin in Leinster, but i think the S8's and backdoor have added a different spin on it for Leinster counties as there is a path way now for a long run of late summer of football even if Dublin win Leinster. Kildare showed what possible last year.

I'm really interested in the Leinster counties and seeing how they get on, progress and want to see them doing well (maybe not Meath ;) ) regardless of us likely winning the provincial title, be great to see two or three Leinster counties in the S8's. Id be hopeful enough of that, it was a very good league for Leinster football.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 10/04/2019 17:42:42    2178377

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Meath need to get to the final and at least rattle us to show if there has been any real progress.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 10/04/2019 17:49:51    2178379

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Not sure the overall championship is important though, im not really sure any of the provincials are these days to be honest. The S8's and beyond is where its at.

For other Leinster counties i think its a pain in the rear having Dublin in Leinster, but i think the S8's and backdoor have added a different spin on it for Leinster counties as there is a path way now for a long run of late summer of football even if Dublin win Leinster. Kildare showed what possible last year.

I'm really interested in the Leinster counties and seeing how they get on, progress and want to see them doing well (maybe not Meath ;) ) regardless of us likely winning the provincial title, be great to see two or three Leinster counties in the S8's. Id be hopeful enough of that, it was a very good league for Leinster football."
That's it in a nutshell, also for longford and Carlow last year it was tremendous, it's not all about who wins it, there is some fantastic games in Leinster (is argue the best of any province) yes the outright winner maybe already known. But sure that was the case for all ire for last few years too.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/04/2019 18:04:19    2178382

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Replying To waynoI:  "Have to admire your effort, but you cant make this upcoming Leinster Championship interesting for the neutral no matter how hard you try. Infact, Its that hard, I reckon youd manage to find a corner in a circle room + get blood out of a stone easier. The biggest forgone conclusion since last years Leinster final, and the leinster final before that, and the leinster final before that...etc."
Yes both the munster and leinster championships are foregone conclusions now before they start, in years gone by Cork were always a danger along with the Meaths and Kildare but now the only question is whether these teams can beat the 8 or 9 point handicap against Kerry and Dublin. Take Kerry and Dublin out of it and certainly they would be competitive but that will not happen.

The best months of the year are wasted playing these meaningless competitions and will now be used in preparation for the super 8s unless some of the teams close the gap but more then likely it will not come in the near future. Time for a change and sooner the better.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 10/04/2019 19:43:28    2178391

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Replying To KY4SAM2015:  "Yes both the munster and leinster championships are foregone conclusions now before they start, in years gone by Cork were always a danger along with the Meaths and Kildare but now the only question is whether these teams can beat the 8 or 9 point handicap against Kerry and Dublin. Take Kerry and Dublin out of it and certainly they would be competitive but that will not happen.

The best months of the year are wasted playing these meaningless competitions and will now be used in preparation for the super 8s unless some of the teams close the gap but more then likely it will not come in the near future. Time for a change and sooner the better."
They be competitive again and sooner then you think, then you be moaning about how hard you have it.

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 10/04/2019 20:54:01    2178400

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Replying To realdub:  "Meath need to get to the final and at least rattle us to show if there has been any real progress."
Be careful what you wish for

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 10/04/2019 21:04:37    2178402

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Replying To Royal.Legend:  "They be competitive again and sooner then you think, then you be moaning about how hard you have it."
Cork are getting worse and Dublin are still miles better then anyone in Leinster. There is very little sign of the gap closing apart from a few good results from Meath in the league. Hopefully Meath, Kildare and a few others can challenge again, would be great to see but i cant see it in the next 3 to 4 years.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 10/04/2019 22:13:17    2178412

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I'd not rule out Kilkenny this year. Galway are under pressure with injuries and Wexford or Dublin could get a chance but Kilkenny are surely only going to be stronger with the Ballyhale boys back.

jpcampion (Laois) - Posts: 194 - 11/04/2019 10:05:44    2178430

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Replying To Royal.Legend:  "Be careful what you wish for"
Oh I ain't wishing for it, :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 11/04/2019 13:18:24    2178450

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It's set up well for Dublin v Meath final which the Dubs should win easily despite how much Meath have improved. I think Meath will make Super 8s which will be a huge step-up for them but they are a good side from what I've seen. Having them back in Division 1 bodes well for Leinster. Kildare will do well to reach super 8 entering at Q2 round but wouldn't put it past them if the draw is kind. The rest will scrap away but won't be in the shake up. Laois and Westmeath are the best placed others to have a run in the summer. Carlow falling. Offaly not doing much. Unkind draw for an improving Louth.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 11/04/2019 13:23:02    2178451

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