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National Hurling League Semi Finals

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Looking at the master fixture list I see these are down for Saturday March 16th ?
Is the whole thing gone mad ? league finalists decided before st patricks day and playing league semi finals on a Saturday ?
Many people work on a Saturday and those fortunate to be off might be away that weekend. Cant get the competitions out of the way quick enough is the way it appears.

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 672 - 21/02/2019 09:24:28    2166719

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You might not have to go!!!

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 21/02/2019 10:01:43    2166723

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Get the league out of the way, to make way for the other league, all of this after the pre-season league!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 21/02/2019 13:44:22    2166778

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this will only end when everybody agrees and admits that the day of the county player playing with his club is over.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 22/02/2019 20:18:30    2167014

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Sure they have to get the leagues finished by the end of March so that the county players are free to play with their clubs in April! Did ye not know that April is all about the clubs? I'm sure the star players from all of the top county teams will be engaged in a number of hotly contested club games throughout April, just like last year .

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 23/02/2019 01:16:11    2167058

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It's completely mad.

In both codes the season start needs to be pushed back.

Play a league style regular season competition over April to August. Finish with playoffs in September.

Club championships get played on break weekends that get set for all counties at the start of the season.

Give every county player a decent season and give the club players clarity on when they play.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4215 - 23/02/2019 11:10:38    2167098

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Replying To Ban:  "Get the league out of the way, to make way for the other league, all of this after the pre-season league!"
You've nailed it. They can play the league semi finals on Christmas Day now for all it matters. Doing well in the"second most important" national competition has as much value anymore as doing well in the Walsh Cup or the Munster league. You would wonder how long more Alliance will continue their sponsorship of it.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 24/02/2019 10:56:13    2167434

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Looking at the master fixture list I see these are down for Saturday March 16th?
Is the whole thing gone mad? league finalists decided before st patricks day and playing league semi finals on a Saturday?
Many people work on a Saturday and those fortunate to be off might be away that weekend. Cant get the competitions out of the way quick enough is the way it appears.
OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 110 - 2/21/19 9:24:28 AM
How many people do work Saturdays though as percentage of overall numbers working?
Everything cant just be Sundays and with club finals and other games Sunday why overshadow them?

Get the league out of the way, to make way for the other league, all of this after the pre-season league!
Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 939 - 2/21/19 1:44:22 PM
Nothing too wrong with that but they should just play both in between each other like any other sport and remove pre season competitions as actual competitions. Counties shouldnt be playing competitions for pre season they should just have friendlies

this will only end when everybody agrees and admits that the day of the county player playing with his club is over.
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3145 - 2/22/19 8:18:30 PM
it wont and shouldnt have to be the case

It's completely mad.
In both codes the season start needs to be pushed back.
Play a league style regular season competition over April to August. Finish with playoffs in September.
Club championships get played on break weekends that get set for all counties at the start of the season.
Give every county player a decent season and give the club players clarity on when they play.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2226 - 2/23/19 11:10:38 AM
wouldnt make the season that short but there needs to be a proper season structure that is kept to.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3505 - 24/02/2019 18:38:13    2167615

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "You might not have to go!!!"
We probably will not be in it. Unless we lose by at least eight points to Clare and Wexford Tipp or Kilkenny win by about ten points (it will not matter if Tipp win as Tipp will still have only four points, we will be playing Laois, Offaly or Carlow. We underestimate nobody- we are just a very ordinary team, who just happened to beat the All Ireland Champions (twice), the League Champions, the All Ireland and League runner ups, the Munster Champions (double) and the Leinster Champions in the past eleven months.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 26/02/2019 23:13:58    2168535

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "We probably will not be in it. Unless we lose by at least eight points to Clare and Wexford Tipp or Kilkenny win by about ten points (it will not matter if Tipp win as Tipp will still have only four points, we will be playing Laois, Offaly or Carlow. We underestimate nobody- we are just a very ordinary team, who just happened to beat the All Ireland Champions (twice), the League Champions, the All Ireland and League runner ups, the Munster Champions (double) and the Leinster Champions in the past eleven months."
Great lads altogether!! Good luck this year, hope ye beat everybody again.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 27/02/2019 08:34:20    2168569

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god these are tedious lads,here are the facts.
1. limerick are the all-ireland champions,there to be beaten,there to defend their crown.they are worthy,well deserved,all ireland champions,and we all want to beat them.

whether or not they are number 1,2,32 in the country is such a ridiculous,tedious,debate.

all will be settled in august.

anything else stinks of a slow news day.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 27/02/2019 08:42:57    2168573

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Looking at the master fixture list I see these are down for Saturday March 16th?
Is the whole thing gone mad? league finalists decided before st patricks day and playing league semi finals on a Saturday?
Many people work on a Saturday and those fortunate to be off might be away that weekend. Cant get the competitions out of the way quick enough is the way it appears.
OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 110 - 2/21/19 9:24:28 AM
How many people do work Saturdays though as percentage of overall numbers working?
Everything cant just be Sundays and with club finals and other games Sunday why overshadow them?

Get the league out of the way, to make way for the other league, all of this after the pre-season league!
Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 939 - 2/21/19 1:44:22 PM
Nothing too wrong with that but they should just play both in between each other like any other sport and remove pre season competitions as actual competitions. Counties shouldnt be playing competitions for pre season they should just have friendlies

this will only end when everybody agrees and admits that the day of the county player playing with his club is over.
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3145 - 2/22/19 8:18:30 PM
it wont and shouldnt have to be the case

It's completely mad.
In both codes the season start needs to be pushed back.
Play a league style regular season competition over April to August. Finish with playoffs in September.
Club championships get played on break weekends that get set for all counties at the start of the season.
Give every county player a decent season and give the club players clarity on when they play.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2226 - 2/23/19 11:10:38 AM
wouldnt make the season that short but there needs to be a proper season structure that is kept to."
I think there'd be nothing wrong with making the season that short.

There's so many warm up matches in hurling. The NHL is fully a preseason competition now at this stage. It's played 4/5 months before the serious action starts. It's just stupid really.

To allow for club action to be accommodated either Club games get played during the intercounty season (is what is supposed to happen now but doesn't) or the intercounty season needs to be shortened.

The GAA season is all year long practically but for much of that the duration the games are just shadow boxing sessions.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4215 - 27/02/2019 10:02:35    2168595

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Replying To perfect10:  "god these are tedious lads,here are the facts.
1. limerick are the all-ireland champions,there to be beaten,there to defend their crown.they are worthy,well deserved,all ireland champions,and we all want to beat them.

whether or not they are number 1,2,32 in the country is such a ridiculous,tedious,debate.

all will be settled in august.

anything else stinks of a slow news day."
Perfect 10, thats a very good post. The vast majority of Limerick supporters ( and other counties also ) know that any of the top teams in Hurling good beat each other any day they play. Trying to say what 3 teams will come out of Munster is a lottery and I will be delighted if Limerick get out in the top 3 again this year. Anything else will be a bonus. Hurling teams have never been so evenly balanced and the standard is really high at the moment and long may it continue. Lets hope that Carlow and a few other teams can bridge the gap this season and drive hurling on to another great Championship.

Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 27/02/2019 10:17:10    2168602

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Theres an appetite from supporters and TV supporters to see more hurling match's but rather than exploit that the GAA are running competitions off too quickly, everything seems rushed and getting it out of the way at this stage . GAA are creating all this free time for clubs with very few club games taking place.
If the GAA had the 6 nations they'd play it off over a weekend the way their going!

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 672 - 27/02/2019 15:09:11    2168704

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Replying To OpenStand:  "Theres an appetite from supporters and TV supporters to see more hurling match's but rather than exploit that the GAA are running competitions off too quickly, everything seems rushed and getting it out of the way at this stage . GAA are creating all this free time for clubs with very few club games taking place.
If the GAA had the 6 nations they'd play it off over a weekend the way their going!"
I don't think there's a problem with competitions being played off quickly.

Six Nations (5 games in 7 weeks is a hectic schedule)
American Football NFL season
NBA playoffs in basketball all get played off quickly.

It's the time of year that the league gets played and the fact that there are so many preparation games in the GAA that really boggles the mind.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4215 - 27/02/2019 15:28:31    2168710

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Great lads altogether!! Good luck this year, hope ye beat everybody again."
Well sincerely Larry if we do not repeat last years heroics, I would dearly love to see Waterford do it. I remember the 57- 63 team and they were a side that oozed class. If that do not happen however the Model County would be my next choice. The fact is apart from the 'big three' the 'smaller' counties all win far too seldom.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 27/02/2019 17:31:23    2168747

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i would love to see waterford win it if wexford dont.dublin after that.
after that,clare and limerick.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 28/02/2019 08:50:27    2168822

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Replying To perfect10:  "i would love to see waterford win it if wexford dont.dublin after that.
after that,clare and limerick."
I'd like to see Antrim win it...then Carlow.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 28/02/2019 10:18:11    2168833

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well sincerely Larry if we do not repeat last years heroics, I would dearly love to see Waterford do it. I remember the 57- 63 team and they were a side that oozed class. If that do not happen however the Model County would be my next choice. The fact is apart from the 'big three' the 'smaller' counties all win far too seldom."
You remember the 57 Waterford team? You're a hardy buck so. No wonder you know so much about hurling.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 28/02/2019 10:24:43    2168835

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "You remember the 57 Waterford team? You're a hardy buck so. No wonder you know so much about hurling."
Yes dimly. I remember hearing the '58 League Final, on the wireless, (Wex v Lim). Wexford won by two points in a high scoring game (5.8 to 4.7). I have it said it was the finest hurling game ever seen in Croke Park- some 'auld' boast.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 28/02/2019 14:26:05    2168897

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