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Falling Football Attendances

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Replying To Ban:  "So its injury time and Mayo Leitrim is a draw. Its a qualifier and defeated team are out of the Championship!

Which team gets the favorable decision off the ref? Considering the ref has aspirations to get the call for the All-Ireland final!"
I really do not think that an intercounty ref would give Mayo a decision at the expense of Leitrim so that the GAA get better attendances.

I do not think anyone in the higher echelons would appoint a referee for a final on the back of a call like this.

Seriously who directly benefits from what you suggest to be motivated to do this. Why would it be worth the potential reputational risk for the individuals or association should it get out.

Statements like that are beyond the realms of being likely in the real world.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4208 - 07/02/2019 13:58:46    2163211

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Replying To Whammo86:  "I really do not think that an intercounty ref would give Mayo a decision at the expense of Leitrim so that the GAA get better attendances.

I do not think anyone in the higher echelons would appoint a referee for a final on the back of a call like this.

Seriously who directly benefits from what you suggest to be motivated to do this. Why would it be worth the potential reputational risk for the individuals or association should it get out.

Statements like that are beyond the realms of being likely in the real world."
Antrim are not good at Gaelic football, they are ok but not great at hurling.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 07/02/2019 14:36:42    2163225

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Replying To Whammo86:  "I really do not think that an intercounty ref would give Mayo a decision at the expense of Leitrim so that the GAA get better attendances.

I do not think anyone in the higher echelons would appoint a referee for a final on the back of a call like this.

Seriously who directly benefits from what you suggest to be motivated to do this. Why would it be worth the potential reputational risk for the individuals or association should it get out.

Statements like that are beyond the realms of being likely in the real world."
You need to read what I wrote.

I simply asked a question on a hypothetical situation!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 07/02/2019 15:10:40    2163234

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Replying To galwayford:  "Antrim are not good at Gaelic football, they are ok but not great at hurling."
You what! No way! Take that back! You scoundrel!

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4208 - 07/02/2019 15:16:31    2163235

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Replying To Ban:  "You need to read what I wrote.

I simply asked a question on a hypothetical situation!"
You sound like Cartman when he got the job of reading the school's announcements.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4208 - 07/02/2019 15:20:42    2163237

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Replying To galwayford:  "Antrim are not good at Gaelic football, they are ok but not great at hurling."
So because he is from Antrim his opinion is not valid? Really arrogant

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 07/02/2019 15:21:47    2163239

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Replying To Whammo86:  "You what! No way! Take that back! You scoundrel!"
He's got you there.

No coming back from that. ;)

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 07/02/2019 16:53:53    2163257

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Replying To Whammo86:  "You what! No way! Take that back! You scoundrel!"
Sorry Whammo, I misread what you said. I must be more careful in future. Antrim GAA do a wonderful job. Also I agree totally with you in your previous posts. Slán

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 07/02/2019 17:13:08    2163264

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Here is Galwayford having a go at Galway. Galway are ok at hurling, they have tried hard but failed on many many occasions, far too many if you ask me. Also they have been found wanting at Football too. Like last year's semi final.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 07/02/2019 17:14:58    2163265

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Replying To jimski:  "So James Horan has stated some of the reasons for the fall in attendances in 2018 despite more games
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- condensed championship
- Mayo's early exit
- Galway playing Dublin again (!)

So nothing to do with Dublin and opposition county fans not being interested in un-competitive games being played in Croke Park?"
No nothing to do with Dublin, since many point out time and again Dublin contribute zilch to the GAA. Maybe its also to do with playing Super 8 games in grounds with severely restricted capacity. But hurling is flying, fast, exciting game unlike Gaelic medicine ball.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 07/02/2019 18:05:14    2163279

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Replying To Whammo86:  "I really do not think that an intercounty ref would give Mayo a decision at the expense of Leitrim so that the GAA get better attendances.

I do not think anyone in the higher echelons would appoint a referee for a final on the back of a call like this.

Seriously who directly benefits from what you suggest to be motivated to do this. Why would it be worth the potential reputational risk for the individuals or association should it get out.

Statements like that are beyond the realms of being likely in the real world."
We wouldn't be Irish unless we believed that people in authority, whether it be referees in sport or people in other facets of life, are corrupt, always on the make, and full of bad intentions.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 07/02/2019 18:15:34    2163284

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When we start losing the attendances will go up, they were poor when Kerry were winning all round them too!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 07/02/2019 18:30:01    2163294

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Gate receipts for 2018 championship were down nearly €4m and total attendance down over 100k despite six additional games. Didn't honestly expect things to be that bad. Will be interesting to see what way it goes this year.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 07/02/2019 19:41:18    2163303

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Replying To realdub:  "When we start losing the attendances will go up, they were poor when Kerry were winning all round them too!"
True,but it is a long way from Kerry, Mayo, Galway and Donegal to Croke Park on big match days. You could say the same for most rural counties. Add in fuel, tickets, food etc, and it all adds up.
Dublin fans don't have to travel too far to reach Croke Park.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 07/02/2019 20:50:12    2163321

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Replying To thelongridge:  "True,but it is a long way from Kerry, Mayo, Galway and Donegal to Croke Park on big match days. You could say the same for most rural counties. Add in fuel, tickets, food etc, and it all adds up.
Dublin fans don't have to travel too far to reach Croke Park."
That's human nature for you. Doens't matter what county it is, the edge wears off when excitement goes missing. We have a huge bandwagon support also which doesn't help.
But its those bandwagoners that keep the GAA alive come summer so what are ya gonna do!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 07/02/2019 21:05:56    2163323

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Gate receipts for 2018 championship were down nearly €4m and total attendance down over 100k despite six additional games. Didn't honestly expect things to be that bad. Will be interesting to see what way it goes this year."
What was the comparison to 2010-2016 and not just 2017.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 07/02/2019 21:23:04    2163327

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Gate receipts for 2018 championship were down nearly €4m and total attendance down over 100k despite six additional games. Didn't honestly expect things to be that bad. Will be interesting to see what way it goes this year."
It's not a bad thing to be honest.

I think the association needs to be shaken out of its stupor somewhat.

The introduction of the Super 8s was a cynical attempt to plug the gaps created by falling attendances at Provincial Championships games.

I'm glad it didn't work.

There needs to be a radical rethink of the season.

The intercounty game needs to offer something to more people/players not just the handful of teams at the top.

There needs to be a properly structured season, with games played at the right time of the year (Late Spring and all Summer) with Club games properly accommodated.

There needs to be more competitive depth in the intercounty game. It can only happen with quite a drastic overhaul.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4208 - 07/02/2019 21:49:50    2163334

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GAA top brass were asked why isn't the super 8s done on a package deal for example all 3 games for 40 or 50 euro, of course they ignored that which means the super 8s are a money rack, when the trial is over in 2020 then scrap that rubbish and get back to our original quarterfinals, it gives supporters a chance to breathe and gather a few quid before hopefully a semi final appearance.

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 07/02/2019 21:51:58    2163335

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Replying To MesAmis:  "What was the comparison to 2010-2016 and not just 2017."
They've been falling for about a decade or more there was a thread on it a while back with all the figures. The financial statements only compare with the previous year and I'm not going digging out all the figures for a decade.

That's a very sharp fall last year though, over 20% in gate receipts and roughly 15% attendances overall. I'd expect it will steady somewhat this year.

GAA are in a great position financially so no need to panic but it's something they will want to arrest ASAP

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 07/02/2019 22:12:24    2163343

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Wouldn't it be great if we all had a teachers pension, TD's pension & Senators pension to look forward to, we could then lecture everybody that the 33% increase is only peanuts & that attendances aren't affected !

Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 409 - 07/02/2019 23:42:54    2163361

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