Both Championship formats are no looking to replicate the best aspects of the National Leagues.
The Hurling championship is very much a second league.
The Super 8s is a streamlined version of NFL division 1 without the need to decide relegation.
The GAA should just run 2 league campaigns a year.
Spring league March April May. Summer league June July August.
Football 4 divisions of 8, 14 rounds in 26 weeks.
2 up 2 down after each single round robin.
Top 2 in division 1 in both series go forward to the All Ireland. If a team is in the top 2 in both Spring and Summer then they go straight to the final. Teams who are in the top 2 once have to play a semifinal.
Similar in hurling with divisions of 6. 1 up plus 2nd in each division plays off against 5th in the division above for promotion.
It'd be really exciting the whole way through in both codes at all levels.
3 club breaks in each code could easily be scheduled during March to August. Early September for each final.
Hurling Championship has it figured out now I think.
Footballers should follow suit and have a league based competition for Sam in June/July/August. Split into two comps, top 16 and bottom 16 with promotion and relegation.
Leave Sept-May free for clubs with a nice winter break Dec/Jan.
Both Championship formats are no looking to replicate the best aspects of the National Leagues. The Hurling championship is very much a second league. The Super 8s is a streamlined version of NFL division 1 without the need to decide relegation. The GAA should just run 2 league campaigns a year. Spring league March April May. Summer league June July August. Football 4 divisions of 8, 14 rounds in 26 weeks. 2 up 2 down after each single round robin. Top 2 in division 1 in both series go forward to the All Ireland. If a team is in the top 2 in both Spring and Summer then they go straight to the final. Teams who are in the top 2 once have to play a semifinal. Similar in hurling with divisions of 6. 1 up plus 2nd in each division plays off against 5th in the division above for promotion. It'd be really exciting the whole way through in both codes at all levels. 3 club breaks in each code could easily be scheduled during March to August. Early September for each final. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2198 - 1/28/19 7:54:46 PMI wouldnt have 2 league campaigns a year but one bigger league per year. 4 divisions of 8 over 14 rounds but no relegation after each single round robin. then separate provincial and all ireland straight knock out cups which would be 20 or 21 weeks of games. Then you have 15-20 weeks dedicated to clubs and then 10 weeks for off season etc You could mix up club and county ...... to make all happy....
Replying To DonaldDuck: "Both Championship formats are no looking to replicate the best aspects of the National Leagues. The Hurling championship is very much a second league. The Super 8s is a streamlined version of NFL division 1 without the need to decide relegation. The GAA should just run 2 league campaigns a year. Spring league March April May. Summer league June July August. Football 4 divisions of 8, 14 rounds in 26 weeks. 2 up 2 down after each single round robin. Top 2 in division 1 in both series go forward to the All Ireland. If a team is in the top 2 in both Spring and Summer then they go straight to the final. Teams who are in the top 2 once have to play a semifinal. Similar in hurling with divisions of 6. 1 up plus 2nd in each division plays off against 5th in the division above for promotion. It'd be really exciting the whole way through in both codes at all levels. 3 club breaks in each code could easily be scheduled during March to August. Early September for each final. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2198 - 1/28/19 7:54:46 PMI wouldnt have 2 league campaigns a year but one bigger league per year. 4 divisions of 8 over 14 rounds but no relegation after each single round robin. then separate provincial and all ireland straight knock out cups which would be 20 or 21 weeks of games. Then you have 15-20 weeks dedicated to clubs and then 10 weeks for off season etc You could mix up club and county ...... to make all happy...."
The reason for the 2 seasons would be to keep things exciting.
A 14 round league season is much less likely to have things on the line towards the later rounds.
7 rounds works really well for keeping each game meaningful.
I think it'd be great for the players knowing that if they get promoted in the Spring league they get a crack at the higher level straight away.
A division 2 team that's promoted to division 1 will get a chance to qualify for the All Ireland semifinals if they finish in the top 2 in the summer league.
It keeps more teams involved.
A team starting a year in division 4 could be playing Summer League division 1 by the following year.
Loads of opportunities for development, loads of big games for players naturally generated by the structure.
Replying To MesAmis: "Hurling Championship has it figured out now I think.
Footballers should follow suit and have a league based competition for Sam in June/July/August. Split into two comps, top 16 and bottom 16 with promotion and relegation.
Leave Sept-May free for clubs with a nice winter break Dec/Jan."
It was a great Hurling championship last season.
There are really structural problems with the format though to accommodate a Provincial division.
It sort of works now but I can easily come up with future problems.
Suppose Kerry develop to keep winning the J McD and never qualify or maybe even worse beat 1 of the other 5 Munster teams.
Some team in Leinster could be getting hockeyed each game without getting relegated and you could have a Waterford going down for no reason.
Moving Kerry to Leinster isn't a great solution, they'll be taking a spot for a developing Leinster team. There's frictions with Galway as it is and they're bringing in money.
It works because it was designed for the here and now it may not be robust to change.
The underlying reason it works is because there's lots of games between evenly matched teams.
I would do what works for most sports around the world. Make the league the primary competition (have top 4 go into semi-finals then All-Ireland final) I'd run the provincial championship as a knockout in parallel to the league (like what the English do with the FA Cup)
Teams know when their season starts and ends. You could organise it to have club championships every number of weeks (Like international breaks in soccer).
Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 31/01/2019 08:30:51
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