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Sure why would they when they got a home game against Waterford instead last year!
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 03/12/2018 14:50:48 2153190 Link 0 |
Don't know about. When Clare have a cause their fans do turn out in fairness. Our hurling support is decent these days with a relative level of success yet the banner really turned out in force for the semi final replay in Thurles this year and outnumbered us probably 2 to 1. Also compare Clare support in Munster final this year to Munster final last year. No comparison. Cork outnumbered them 5 to 1 in 2017 but more 50 50 this year. Anyway back to thread. Shocking treatment of Diese hurlers all things considered even if their co. board were not proactive enough on their co. ground. Players deserve better.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 03/12/2018 18:45:17 2153215 Link 0 |
My answer is in reply to a suggestion that counties like Clare or Limerick might have opposed Nowlan Park as a possible home venue for Waterford, for a temporary period, until Walsh Park is updated. I have no problem with Limerick fulfilling their obligations under any Home/Away system.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 03/12/2018 19:18:26 2153220 Link 0 |
Apparently, Waterford themselves sought permission to stage their championship games in Nowlan Park and this was shot down by the Munster Council. I have always supported the idea that if Waterford themselves wanted to play their home games in KK that should be their right.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 03/12/2018 23:31:22 2153258 Link 0 |
But somebody must have objected oldtourman, otherwise it'd have been passed..... StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 04/12/2018 16:14:44 2153318 Link 0 |
I would think also there was some shadow boxing going on here. The biggest losers here are Limerick and Clare and let me explain why. These games will be played in Waterford. Pauric Fanning must be delighted how this has gone. He can put most of his eggs in two baskets. The games at home with 8,000 to 10,000 home fans only because Waterford should give the tickets to their own. In Walsh Park anything that goes near the uprights the crowd will be screaming point. It is an extremely difficult place to judge a high ball where it went. (on the receiving end often). This is not fair either to Clare or Limerick as Thurles and Cork will have hawk-eye. The GAA launched this new system without having all on a level playing field and different rules at different venues. I predict that this will cost Clare or Limerick a place in the play offs. May be both. Open to be proved wrong and that would not be my wish either for them by any means. Except they were trying to be too cute. No one would do a home and away with Waterford for years because it was a championship grave yard for them. Waterford felt the were pushed around in Cusack Park by Clare last year. Lots of injuries. In fairness mostly accidental. The only questionable one was how Coughlan got the bones broke in the back of his hand. They made no complaint so that may have been an accident also. The Munster council are doing a lot of talking all of a sudden about this and how they are meeting with Waterford. They snookered themselves into a corner and bullying is not going to work because even the quietest old dog is going to snap sooner or later. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2659 - 04/12/2018 21:28:30 2153346 Link 0 |
Considering Limerick have gone into Thurles, Salthill and Cork in recent years and acquitted themselves well, I doubt Walsh Park will be all that intimidating for them, and of course Clare beat Tipp in Thurles last Summer so the same migt apply there. As I said before I find it hard to see why either Clare or Limerich would have opposed Waterford in this matter.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 05/12/2018 09:33:52 2153364 Link 1 |
you beat me to it,if limerick are afraid of fortress walsh park,then their credentials are seriously on the line! also no county can hoard tickets for their own supporters only like suggested. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 05/12/2018 13:46:07 2153390 Link 0 |
Most counties have no history at all of playing in Walsh Park except in the winter for the league. It was usually very boggy but the stewards and people were very friendly. It's a poor county ground but I'm sure it will be an advantage to Waterford to play there. But if you think Clare or Limerick will be going down for anything other than a win then your wrong. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 05/12/2018 15:07:51 2153403 Link 0 |
course it will,they have to justify pairc ui chaoimh at any opportunity.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 05/12/2018 16:51:06 2153410 Link 0 |
Wrong. Waterford have no obligation to anyone only their own clubs for tickets. If you are a club member and supporting Deise draws, development of grounds you are justified in expecting a ticket before anyone from another county.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2659 - 05/12/2018 17:58:43 2153418 Link 0 |
That would go against the ethos and spirit of the GAA. No away supporters would be terrible. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 05/12/2018 20:16:20 2153442 Link 0 |
Yes it would. Waterford tried to accommodate them by using Nolan Park as a home venue. Still giving up home advantage for a neutral venue that is some bit of relief to our supporters. Did not see anyone offering to go to a neutral venue last year for their homes games seen as Waterford had no home games. Nor should they have either as the object is to accommodate home supporters.. Nor should Waterford go outside the county either this year. If your county voted against allowing us play at a venue of our choice then you get what you deserve. I find it hard to believe that Tipp or Cork or Kerry would care where these two games were played. Could be wrong. It is most likely someone gambled and thought that opposing it would end up with the games in Thurles and Limerick. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2659 - 05/12/2018 21:59:36 2153454 Link 0 |
Come on Canuck, only most of us thought Waterford had sought permission to play their home games in KK, which seemed a bit fairer than bringing them to Thurles to play Cork and all the way to limerick to play Tipp as was the case last year, we would not have interviened in this debate at all. I myself actually mooted the idea that Waterford should be allowed play their home games in Kilkenny, IF THEY REQUESTED IT SO, on the the Waterford Forum months ago. Unfortunately that Forum seems to have vanished off cyberspace now
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 05/12/2018 23:22:33 2153456 Link 0 |
Oldtourman it can now be confirmed that Limerick, Clare and Kerry voted against Waterford along with two members of the board (where do you think they were from ?) making it a 5 to 4 decision. This always had a smell from it and the truth is never too far away. I always find your posts and the Limerick ones fair but its is the the votes of your representatives that count. Delighted with ye winning this year having family connections in Limerick and of course most of all the best team. Disappointed with this mean spirited decision from two counties who struggle for success like ourselves. It is what it is now. I predict it will cost one or both a play off spot in 2019. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2659 - 06/12/2018 14:39:49 2153507 Link 0 |
Well at least I was right about Kerry (why they should have a vote in a competition they do not even take part in is amazing) and I must say I share your disappointment with my own County Board, if this is true
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 06/12/2018 16:32:07 2153524 Link 0 |
How was it confirmed? Any source for this?
ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 06/12/2018 19:45:54 2153542 Link 0 |
So canuck you really think that a season ticket holder from Limerick won't be accommodated? I don't think you understand how GAA tickets are distributed. It is through the GAA, not the hosting county board. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 06/12/2018 21:42:11 2153548 Link 0 |
When you say the GAA do you mean Croke Park or the Munster Board ? If there are 8000 season ticket holders in Waterford who gets the tickets ? I have no problem with Limerick or Clare supporters and get behind them regular but their ability to be present at these games were of their own making or their county boards. It is ironic that Kerry voted against Waterford. It smells to high heaven that someone knew they did not have the votes and canvassed them. Two often we see the same at congress with delegates having no skin in the game, not even present for the discussion but vote in a certain way. I guess it is called democracy but the decent thing for Kerry to have done was abstain.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2659 - 06/12/2018 22:42:16 2153553 Link 0 |
The only thing that really stinks is the Waterford county board and Walsh Park. If this issue rumbles on again like last year then it will affect the team. I don't mind if Waterford get 2 home games..hope they do. But what I can say is that if they don't then it should be accepted and got on with for the teams sake or there 'll be no All Ireland for Waterford in 2019. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 07/12/2018 13:10:46 2153586 Link 0 |