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Hurling, Camogie have just been added to the UNESCO list of protected cultural activities so maybe outsiders appreciate it more than we do. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 29/11/2018 11:10:04 2152809 Link 1 |
Seems to me your problem is not with the game of hurling but with officials not applying the rules, enthusiastic pundits, pitches and some other minor issues. Like all games it continues to evolve but the skill level and fitness of players is higher now than ever and the sliotar is lighter. It's a faster game hence two referees are needed and properly trained umpires and linesmen. But that's not the fault of the game of hurling. The full back and full forward are redundant? Dáithí Burke and Shane O' Donnell spring to mind. What game were you looking at this year? baire (Galway) - Posts: 1785 - 29/11/2018 11:51:19 2152816 Link 0 |
I would not pay too much attention to Unesco. I think Gaelic football should have been added. Hurling really needs 2 refs or VAR in my opinion. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 29/11/2018 12:50:34 2152824 Link 0 |
A lot of rules not correctly applied. icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2550 - 29/11/2018 16:55:57 2152844 Link 1 |
You got them all and for people to say that it is better to keep the game flowing and the referees would get lambasted is nonsense. Which rules do people want to let go selectively? Throw away the rule book completely and have a free for all in the interest of keeping the game flowing ? Let the player put the ball in his pocket and take it out when he gets close to goal ? These intelligent players read these inconsistencies and play up on them. Enforce the rules and they will stop committing the offences ( a good % of them ) pretty quick. The game would improve by controlling the third man tackle as rucks would not work anymore and enforcing the hand pass rule is obvious. The throwing would stop, the passer could be hit with a fair shoulder easier making him think twice as to where and when to use it. It maddens me when we try to think up new rules where as applying the existing ones would fix the few problems that exists Acting as if the referees won't get lambasted more with adding new rules. We are lucky to have such great games and good discussion. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 29/11/2018 22:32:50 2152867 Link 0 |
Hurling is just one of those 'stand alone' sports. It's a game designed for war in a controlled environment. The passion runs deep. We should never compare our two great sports because as far as the outside observer is concerned, hurling will always catch the eye more than the big ball. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 29/11/2018 23:03:22 2152868 Link 2 |
Only in this country would you have the best year of entertainment, skill, mix of games and a new all ireland winner and people still moan and complain. Sapose the original poster is from Mayo so moaning is compulsory. Some ridiculous comments here if the refs blew for every little thing there would be no flow to the game and become unwatchable like football. Even someone mentioned shin pads, give it a break. As for the commentary remark I much prefer listening to the lads than Joe Brolly, Pat Spillane and colm O rourke who are doin no good for the game at all. The only thing I do agree with here is the lack of teams competitive at the top table. A lot of county boards are at fault for this including my own who are a disgrace when it comes to Hurling. hurlinglad15 (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 30/11/2018 07:51:56 2152877 Link 3 |
Love seeing all this discussion of hurling. Almost weird to read, Basically gone if not dead in most parts of Ulster. I have always felt detached from hurling even though it is a national sport because it is rarely mentioned never mind played up here. One or two strongholds left e.g. Derry and Antrim (With decreasing standards) but apart from that is hurling gone from Ulster? allfermanagh (Fermanagh) - Posts: 77 - 30/11/2018 09:28:46 2152884 Link 0 |
The most striking difference ( pun intended ) in how both games are reffed is the way a player giving a shoulder is given the benefit of the doubt in hurling where as in football most shoulders are a free against the player applying it, especially if you knock a lad over. I'd agree that throwing the ball is the biggest flaw in the game lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 30/11/2018 11:23:17 2152894 Link 0 |
Eddie Brennan is playing in a Leinster Club final this weekend. The modern game doesn't seem to be hindering him aged 40!
Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 30/11/2018 12:56:18 2152906 Link 0 |
You have touched on a few different things. Some I would have to agree with. However what is your definition of every little thing ? Is throwing the ball 90% of the time a little thing, or a fundamental rule of the game ? The people and players who use the word "flow" really mean don't penalize my team but go ahead and call the opposition on it. That is human nature. Either you want rules or not. If they serve no purpose or you have no notion of applying get rid of them. We do love the nod nod wink wink stuff don't we ? Not moaning only contributing to the conversation of what will keep are games great and not falling into the pit (full of sh-t) that every thing is perfect. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 30/11/2018 14:02:03 2152914 Link 0 |
The rules of hurling provide the framework within which the game should be played . They are pliable parameters and rightly so . The game thrives on continuity of play . One of football's major problems is the fussiness of it's referees . They are continually stoppping the play and ruining any chance of continuity and momentum in the game . One of hurlings great attributes is the physical nature of the game . Physical play has been taken out of football by the administrators and the referees . Something that lifts the spectators of both sports is the big shoulder . Remember Paudie Maher on Joe Canning in 2016 or Gearoid McInerney on Paudie Maher in 2017 ? They were massive hits that's brought the crowd to their feet . Hurlers are allowed to do that and that's as it should be. I've lost count of the number of good, rock solid shoulders I've seen penalised by knee jerk football refs in recent years . Football has some problems to sort out and one of the biggest of them is the nannies it has for referees . Long may the hurling referees allow the game to flow .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 30/11/2018 16:43:21 2152937 Link 3 |
Im not going to bother respond to this......oh wait PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 30/11/2018 17:28:35 2152944 Link 0 |
I love hurling, but the way I watch it now is I record it and start watching at half time. I fast forward through all the frees. Makes it great. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 30/11/2018 17:34:09 2152946 Link 0 |
Nonsense
Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 286 - 30/11/2018 19:15:44 2152955 Link 1 |
To be honest the shoulder is going from hurling too. It's a shame. The powers that be think we are all watching for scores and solo runs. I love to see a guy getting a good shoulder and either recovering and playing on or getting wiped out but not stretchered off might I add.
bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 01/12/2018 21:22:00 2153032 Link 2 |
Well said . The physical element of both games should be encouraged not taken out of the games .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 01/12/2018 23:44:21 2153042 Link 0 |
"getting wiped out but not stretchered off might I add." just freeze what you said there, unfortunately the game needs to discard this otherwise in five, ten years the litigation will start (and it will start). The whiplash effect (well documented in the NFL) will bankrupt the GAA which is why I think the shoulder will be gone from the game within the next five years. You can mourn its demise but it will be gone or the GAA will be wearing out the path to the high court.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 02/12/2018 00:30:06 2153044 Link 0 |
yes throwing off the ball is the biggest cheating in hurling as have seen it on many occasions, I've pulled it on many games which I reffed and the only one to moan is the player that done it. As for a good physical game I enjoyed them as much as the next fan but we had a duty of care to players and would try to control the players as much as we could possibly within the rules(I was the first ref in antrim to send off a player for pulling the faceguard before it was in the rule book, commonsense). I believe that handpassing of the stick would be a good change. exref (Antrim) - Posts: 63 - 02/12/2018 11:30:23 2153051 Link 0 |
Are you talking about a shoulder to shoulder hit, or the one to the front when a lad is on a run? The latter is rightly being taken out of the game as it's cowardly. I haven't seen anything to suggest shoulder to shoulder hits are being penalised. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2037 - 02/12/2018 12:24:18 2153056 Link 0 |