National Forum

Football All Stars 2018

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


All Ireland finalists end up with 2 all stars...Peter Harte man of the match in the semi final and leads fightback in final...Conor MC aliskey scores 2-38 during championship...Niall sudden scores 1-2 in semi final and has a phenomenal season...Mattie Donnelly outstanding performances through the championship...Paul mannion turns up in the Dublin club championship and wins an all star...pathetic!

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 01/11/2018 08:20:09    2148970

Link

All Stars are a complete joke at this stage. Tyrone should have had more than just the two. Ian Burke was Galways third best forward this year and gets one ahead of Walsh and Comer is close to disgraceful. Cavanagh getting one at full back make zero sense

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 01/11/2018 10:06:31    2148982

Link

Tyrone beaten in Ulster and beaten a similar way by the Dubs. No reason why they had a better year than a provincial champion such as Galway who only got 1. 2 ways a fair representation as Tyrone had no standouts. Ryan Mchugh's inclusion is the strange one

PressureKick (UK) - Posts: 209 - 01/11/2018 10:07:10    2148983

Link

Some achievement by our young hero David Clifford, an All-Star in his debut season, hopefully it's just the first of many more!!!!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 01/11/2018 10:14:04    2148989

Link

No mention of picking a midfielder at full back just to fit him in somewhere? You've no problem with that?

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 01/11/2018 10:30:13    2148990

Link

I think we need to take our hat of to this Dublin team. The took 7 All stars and if one or two of the ones they got were borderline they could probably point to one or two they didn't get. It is easy to fire shots at them because they cruise through so many games hence don't look overly spectacular but I think that is a testament to their excellence.

From Galway point of view
*I think Shane Walsh was very unlucky.
*Delighted for Ian Burke, very classy understated style but his standards are incredible high and his ability to unlock defenses is second to none.
*Comer got nominated and rightly so, however at crucial moments he was not clinical e.g. goal chance against Dublin and competition is so hot up front I don't think we can argue with his exclusion.
*Flynn & SA Kelly got nominated and they deserved the nominations. They need to keep pushing to step up to next level of an actual All Star

Other talking points
*Cluxton unlucky but Beggan became a bit of a cult hero this year
*Colm Cavanagh, not sure about this one. Good player but.....I think Tyrones style of play probably doesn't help one player stand out so he probably got this one for the team
*Ryan Mchugh.....scratching my head about this one. A lot of players could feel aggrieved at being put behind him. Not sure what he did to deserve one. Good player and All Star calibre ...........but not sure what he did in 2018 that was better than Shane Walsh or Paul Broderick or a few others

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1826 - 01/11/2018 10:31:35    2148991

Link

It's a disgrace etc etc etc

Same as ever.

You could easily pick another 15 or more that are as deserving. Same every year.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 01/11/2018 10:50:27    2148998

Link

Mannion mom till taken off in all ireland final
Ran himself into the ground cause he knew he had a sub equally as good to replace him.
He wouldn't be 1 ild question.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1764 - 01/11/2018 10:54:06    2149000

Link

Replying To mayotyroneman:  "All Ireland finalists end up with 2 all stars...Peter Harte man of the match in the semi final and leads fightback in final...Conor MC aliskey scores 2-38 during championship...Niall sudden scores 1-2 in semi final and has a phenomenal season...Mattie Donnelly outstanding performances through the championship...Paul mannion turns up in the Dublin club championship and wins an all star...pathetic!"
"Leads fightback in final"?? What fightback was this now? Mattie Donnelly was anonymous in the final, biggest game of the season and he failed to show up at all. Purely for that fact he can't possibly justify selection. Also how can anyone from a county beaten THREE TIMES in the championship claim any right to all star awards?!

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 206 - 01/11/2018 10:54:48    2149001

Link

I am a huge admirer of Cluxton's but since Dean Rock took over the free taking duties, Stephen's main contribution has been reduced to little more than taking kick outs.

There is nobody better in the country at hitting a dead ball but with Beggan also nailing free kicks for fun, kick outs alone won't win an All Star.

I doubt Stephen is too bothered, he has a nice back pocket full of Celtic crosses to keep him company, something Rory Beggan would give his back teeth for.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 01/11/2018 11:09:55    2149005

Link

Cavanagh at full back is odd to say the least but I'd have no major issue with the rest of the team.

Burke fully deserves that award, I must say I didn't know an awful lot about him before this year but was massively impressed with him this summer.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 01/11/2018 11:26:53    2149011

Link

Replying To MesAmis:  "It's a disgrace etc etc etc

Same as ever.

You could easily pick another 15 or more that are as deserving. Same every year."
The whole thing is a bit farcical at this stage. Undoubtedly lovely for the players who get them and for their clubs but every year you are left scratching your head more and more at some of the awards. When you think Cluxton has been overlooked every year since 2013 that says just about all there is to be said at this stage.

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 01/11/2018 11:38:52    2149012

Link

Ryan McHugh certainly threw me alright as did Cavanagh af full back, thats just acting the mick picking him there, the goalie spot was always going to be contentious and is proving so but I had a feeling Beggan would sneak it, I don't think Tyrone deserve any more than what they got being honest about it.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 01/11/2018 11:43:14    2149013

Link

I have seen better teams "picked" in a pub, or should I say "changed" in a pub. The story is that a particular team lost a semifinal that they were expected to win and the selectors were blamed for putting a strangely placed team on the field and they got a bit of flack afterwards. One of them simply responded listen "We picked the team on Thursday evening above in the pitch but it was changed later in the pub."

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1062 - 01/11/2018 11:45:49    2149016

Link

Replying To mayotyroneman:  "All Ireland finalists end up with 2 all stars...Peter Harte man of the match in the semi final and leads fightback in final...Conor MC aliskey scores 2-38 during championship...Niall sudden scores 1-2 in semi final and has a phenomenal season...Mattie Donnelly outstanding performances through the championship...Paul mannion turns up in the Dublin club championship and wins an all star...pathetic!"
Niall sludden was destroyed by murchan in both Dublin games and was completely anonymous, I'd say that was the main factor in him missing out. Plus manionn and Kilkenny were always getting two of the half forward line positions

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 01/11/2018 11:51:34    2149023

Link

Hard argue with the team really. I would have had Cluxton myself but was always going to be a close call. Of course delighted to see Ryan McHugh get in. I had Eoghan Ban down as Donegal's most probable but Ryan was excellent in every game he played. The goal against Fermanagh and the point against Dublin been particular highlights. Apart from Cluxton I agree in that Shane Walsh can feel unlucky.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 01/11/2018 11:51:59    2149024

Link

Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Cavanagh at full back is odd to say the least but I'd have no major issue with the rest of the team.

Burke fully deserves that award, I must say I didn't know an awful lot about him before this year but was massively impressed with him this summer."
He won U21 star of the futre in 2013 when Galway won the Al Ireland. He was strangley the last of that crop of players to be called up to Senior football which included Healy, Daithi Burke, O'Curraoin, Flynn, Varleys, Walsh, Comer, Mulryan. He has won two club All Irelands with his club and imagine he may not have played for Galway this year if he had travelled to New York with his club after winning the Club All Ireland but for work commitments. Kevin Walsh dropped all his club mates that travelled.

EDH (Galway) - Posts: 367 - 01/11/2018 12:02:25    2149026

Link

while cavanagh arguably deserves his all star , the same sport writer's who all summer bemoan players dropping back and packing defense name him at full back. baffling

ctowers (Dublin) - Posts: 99 - 01/11/2018 12:03:11    2149027

Link

4 in a row team only gets 7 while Kilkenny n Kerry 4 in a rows got 9.

Ian Burke I love him great player but didn't have a better season than Shane Walsh or Comer or Rock.

Ryan Wylie was outstanding all year robbed of an all star


Ryan Mchugh outstanding player but not better than Walsh or Comer this year no chance.

It's obviously personal with Cluxton at this stage, well done to Beggan he'd a great year tbf.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 01/11/2018 12:13:06    2149028

Link

Replying To panamasam:  "Hard argue with the team really. I would have had Cluxton myself but was always going to be a close call. Of course delighted to see Ryan McHugh get in. I had Eoghan Ban down as Donegal's most probable but Ryan was excellent in every game he played. The goal against Fermanagh and the point against Dublin been particular highlights. Apart from Cluxton I agree in that Shane Walsh can feel unlucky."
Hard see how McHugh deserved it over Murphy though for example? Murphy was equally as good in Ulster, phenomenal against Roscommon and better vs Tyrone where Ryan was quiet. Both were quiet vs Dublin although Ryan has a few good moments. Neither remotely deserves it over Shane Walsh however. Having Cavanagh in MF, Howard wing forward and Eoghan ban at CB would be acceptable but McHugh in there is a bit baffling

PressureKick (UK) - Posts: 209 - 01/11/2018 12:13:59    2149030

Link