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Rochford For Donegal?

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Did not see this one coming but it appears there is real substance behind the rumour. Bit of a statement of intent from Donegal were Rochford to join their set up.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 17/10/2018 11:32:46    2146942

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It's great news. Glad to see Stephen will get experience with provincial champions. ;-)

I hope it is true.

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 17/10/2018 12:03:42    2146948

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That is good news. Cant beat experience especially recent experience. I always liked him in interviews after games. Think it is a wise move to get in an outsider. Sometimes a person too close to home won't break the mould enough when change is needed. Best wishes to Karl on his career. I think that he did a lot last year with the players at his disposal and we got our scoring sorted out again. Now all we need is a midfielder and we may get going again.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 17/10/2018 12:29:40    2146957

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Best of luck to him up in Donegal. Treated badly by our county board...not the first and won't be the last.

Hopefully doesent come back to haunt us

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 17/10/2018 12:35:23    2146960

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An excellent acquisition if the rumours are true. He has great pedigree and an outside voice might be no harm. Always came across well in the media and by all accounts from my sources in Mayo - players had great time for him.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 17/10/2018 13:24:31    2146968

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Rochford is a top coach and always has been. Tactically had Mayo set up brilliantly to beat Dublin and didn't lose those games because of not setting the team up right. Obviously the decision to replace the goalkeeper did not work and will haunt him for ever, however two own goals in the first game of 2016, frees going wide/hitting the post, missed goal chances and red cards at crucial stages cost Mayo those titles, something Rochford had no control over. It was embarrassing listening to Off the Ball AM this morning with Ger Gilroy, McIntyre and Sheehan, who think Rochford could be going up there to just act as a manager who organizes everything around the team because he has experience of a big county like Mayo etc. They also were not even sure if Donie Buckley was with Mayo last year, and they thought his role was as strength and conditioning coach!! Rochford, Buckley and Tony McEntee all shared the same coaching responsibilities with Mayo, Buckley was in particular working with the defense regards tackling and McEntee worked primarily with the forwards, while Rochford worked on a mixture of all the above. Barry Solan was and is the S&C coach, not Buckley as OTB seem to think. Rochford is highly regarded from his time coaching Corofin and would be a major coup for Donegal who have some very exciting players.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 934 - 17/10/2018 14:23:07    2146977

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Rochford is a top coach and always has been. Tactically had Mayo set up brilliantly to beat Dublin and didn't lose those games because of not setting the team up right. Obviously the decision to replace the goalkeeper did not work and will haunt him for ever, however two own goals in the first game of 2016, frees going wide/hitting the post, missed goal chances and red cards at crucial stages cost Mayo those titles, something Rochford had no control over. It was embarrassing listening to Off the Ball AM this morning with Ger Gilroy, McIntyre and Sheehan, who think Rochford could be going up there to just act as a manager who organizes everything around the team because he has experience of a big county like Mayo etc. They also were not even sure if Donie Buckley was with Mayo last year, and they thought his role was as strength and conditioning coach!! Rochford, Buckley and Tony McEntee all shared the same coaching responsibilities with Mayo, Buckley was in particular working with the defense regards tackling and McEntee worked primarily with the forwards, while Rochford worked on a mixture of all the above. Barry Solan was and is the S&C coach, not Buckley as OTB seem to think. Rochford is highly regarded from his time coaching Corofin and would be a major coup for Donegal who have some very exciting players."
I heard that alright and certainly had my head scratching that I was going to post about what people think Rochford's role will be. Strange comments alright mainly from Gilroy.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 17/10/2018 17:00:42    2146999

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I think it's great news for us if it's true, his experience will benefit our younger players coming through now into the squad, I think the mix of himself and Declan could work out very well,
we should do well in division 2, I want to see attacking football and try out lots of the younger players, I think Murph and a few of the older lads should be rested till near the end of the league, even if we don't get out of div 2, championship is where it's at.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 17/10/2018 19:58:37    2147011

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I think it's great news for us if it's true, his experience will benefit our younger players coming through now into the squad, I think the mix of himself and Declan could work out very well,
we should do well in division 2, I want to see attacking football and try out lots of the younger players, I think Murph and a few of the older lads should be rested till near the end of the league, even if we don't get out of div 2, championship is where it's at."
Think its a given the more senior players will have another extended winter break which is the correct approach. I think much like last year it will be a young Donegal team playing in the league but there should be enough quality there to gain promotion. I expect the more experienced players will come back in the latter stages to give an extra push if needed to get promotion.

Now with Rochford confirmed what can Donegal expect? He obviously had a very strong backroom team beside him in Mayo but what will Rochford offer as part of the Donegal set up? I cannot believe he is there to assist in the logistical management side as suggested during the week on OTB am. There is no doubt he will be hungry and have a point to prove given the premature end to his stint with Mayo. I also imagine he will be the fav to take over in Galway if and when Kevin Walsh goes. No doubt he will be a man under pressure next year. Sad to lose Karl Lacey who by all accounts was excellent in the set up but I have no doubt he will be back and hopefully work with some of the underage set ups like he was before joining Declan's backroom team. Saying that very excited to see what Rochford can bring to Donegal.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 19/10/2018 21:19:30    2147300

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A shrewd move by both parties

Donegal are a team on the up

Rochford's appointment is a big plus and will speed up that progress in my opinion

Wish him the best in his new position and it'll be interesting to see if it comes back to haunt his previous county board officials

He'll be very well received in Donegal I'm sure. If he had arrived into the Dublin setup I'd have been very happy!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 23/10/2018 16:38:30    2147937

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Replying To jimbodub:  "A shrewd move by both parties

Donegal are a team on the up

Rochford's appointment is a big plus and will speed up that progress in my opinion

Wish him the best in his new position and it'll be interesting to see if it comes back to haunt his previous county board officials

He'll be very well received in Donegal I'm sure. If he had arrived into the Dublin setup I'd have been very happy!"
I remember back in the day you foresaw Donegal's rise to dominance under JMG. Let's home you're right this time too. I'd really love for us to get back at a level where we can realistically have a good cut at the Dubs. It'd be great if we were the only county who managed to beat this great Dublin team in Championship football!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 23/10/2018 20:10:11    2147974

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Yes Rochford is obviously a very good manager, he was very unlucky not to land the big one, even more so than Horan. I don't know how it'll work between the two of them but he surely has to be an asset and I agree, Donegal look like they have future. There's nothing between them and Tyrone.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 23/10/2018 22:38:17    2148009

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Replying To realdub:  "Yes Rochford is obviously a very good manager, he was very unlucky not to land the big one, even more so than Horan. I don't know how it'll work between the two of them but he surely has to be an asset and I agree, Donegal look like they have future. There's nothing between them and Tyrone."
Different strengths. Tyrone are defensively tenacious especially forcing turnovers plus they have excellent conditioning. Donegal in my opinion have better attacking players and potential but some of our younger lads have a way to go in terms of conditioning. Both like most a fair bit off the Dubs but I do think Donegal have more of a capacity and potential to hit the 20 pts plus mark to have any chance of beating Dublin.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 24/10/2018 00:12:37    2148032

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Replying To realdub:  "Yes Rochford is obviously a very good manager, he was very unlucky not to land the big one, even more so than Horan. I don't know how it'll work between the two of them but he surely has to be an asset and I agree, Donegal look like they have future. There's nothing between them and Tyrone."
We have players but are reliant on a narrow panel. This was proven this year, without mcbrearty we were a beaten docket. I think that if we can keep himself and Murphy on the forward line and manage to get Jason McGee playing to his full potential at mid field, then we have a chance. If we have a situation where Murphy is out the pitch then we are in serious trouble.

But back to the thread in question, Rochford is a good guy and I am sure he will do well here next year.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 24/10/2018 00:55:38    2148035

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I remember back in the day you foresaw Donegal's rise to dominance under JMG. Let's home you're right this time too. I'd really love for us to get back at a level where we can realistically have a good cut at the Dubs. It'd be great if we were the only county who managed to beat this great Dublin team in Championship football!"
Ah yes I predicted that one but sure every dog has it's day.

But in all seriousness Rochford is an excellent addition and if there's a good relationship built up amongst the management it will only have a positive impact and bring Donegal on at a quicker rate.

Losing Paddy McB last year was hugely unlucky and a massive disadvantage the chapbus class and was on form

His rehabilitation from injury and level of form is crucial to Donegal moving forward.

He's in the top 5 in the country and at the time of his injury could have arguably been in the top 3

Donegal have done very well landing Rochford. Let's see if it proves to be successful but the ingredients are all there for future successful

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 25/10/2018 15:31:53    2148301

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Ah yes I predicted that one but sure every dog has it's day.

But in all seriousness Rochford is an excellent addition and if there's a good relationship built up amongst the management it will only have a positive impact and bring Donegal on at a quicker rate.

Losing Paddy McB last year was hugely unlucky and a massive disadvantage the chapbus class and was on form

His rehabilitation from injury and level of form is crucial to Donegal moving forward.

He's in the top 5 in the country and at the time of his injury could have arguably been in the top 3

Donegal have done very well landing Rochford. Let's see if it proves to be successful but the ingredients are all there for future successful"
Aye if Paddy can return to the level he was at it would obviously be a major boost to our prospects. We need to be patient with him and hopefully he'll get there with time. We'll also have Kieran Gillespie back next year to strengthen us in defence. He has been superb in Gaoth Dobhair's championship success. He was full back on the minor team that Eoghan Ban emerged from. Other lads from that group will also be pushing hard for senior success so there are grounds for optimism in 2019.

Rochord will bring a lot of big game experience and know how which can only be a good thing.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 25/10/2018 16:28:06    2148310

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