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Funny when Cluxton was taking free kicks the abuse he got. Even people talking about banning keepers taking free. witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 03/09/2018 22:15:22 2138995 Link 5 |
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Id give it to Beggan myself. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/09/2018 22:49:22 2139002 Link 3 |
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kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 03/09/2018 22:55:15 2139004 Link 4 |
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Not bothered. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 03/09/2018 23:09:36 2139008 Link 2 |
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Who is the best goalie of all time? Stephen Cluxton. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 04/09/2018 10:49:58 2139079 Link 2 |
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giving cluxton an all star this year actually tarnishes his reputation. --------------- Will you have a day off mate!!! Stephen cluxton has become the first player to captain a team to 4 all irelands in a row he is widely recognised as one of the most influential players to ever play the game. 6 all irelands 13 leinster titles 5 national leagues few all stars but yea you're bang on, winning one all star will tarnish his reputation. give it over haha waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 04/09/2018 10:58:56 2139081 Link 4 |
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Both players had great seasons. Brody more outstanding than both. Whoever gets it will have deserved it as there's very little to pick between them. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 04/09/2018 12:56:55 2139111 Link 3 |
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Brody is an interesting shout and probably also a deserving one. There is a school of thought out there, that says kick outs are a 50/50 operation i.e. they are dependent on the goal keepers ability but also the talent of the player receiving the ball and the talent of the team. I wonder will we see a greater distribution of All Stars this year with the S8's? Historically they used to go to teams in the semi onward. But with the extra two games player have had the opportunity to state a case for inclusion. I know they will get a few but i would really prefer that Dublin dont win as minimal all stars as possible. These things are all a distractions, there is a massive holiday with it, then a team holiday last year you also had the international rules series. In those three things i think Mayo had a lot of representation and i think it could have been a contributing factor to their fatigue/injuries this year. Im speculating i know. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 04/09/2018 13:45:15 2139129 Link 3 |
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What edges it to Cluxton for me is his ability to do it at the highest possible level and circumstances. In the final when the pressure was on, he ensured Tyrone never got possession from his kick outs. Those second half kick outs were high risk but on the money. We've seen very good keepers flounder in the key minutes of a final. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 04/09/2018 13:59:32 2139136 Link 0 |
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Brody against Monaghan was plain ridiculous, absolutely outstanding. But I think it's stretch for him to get a nomination. Niall Morgan will be the 3rd nominee.
FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 04/09/2018 14:17:59 2139144 Link 0 |
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So based on what you're saying about the two mistakes that Cluxton made, do you think he was unlucky to not get the All Star last year? As David Clarke made the worst mistake possible by kicking the ball out over the line from the restart after Dublin went point up, handing the possession and the final to Dublin?
gingerdub (Dublin) - Posts: 11 - 04/09/2018 15:03:25 2139161 Link 0 |
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Cluxton was unlucky to get an All Star last year but I think the issue that stops him is what the selectors are looking for. And I think high on that list is, flash. Clarke would have played twice the number of Championship matches last year and if you count just close games, maybe 3 times as many. He made crucial, game changing saves in virtually every game. Cluxton made one game changing save all year. He's just not getting the opportunity to shine. And his 2 All Stars from this era (He has 5 in all) were from 2011 and 2013, when he was still taking the frees and therefore a bit more in the spotlight. As a keeper myself I think he is technically the best goalie. And if it was just keepers who had a vote, I think he'd win every year. But these guys are looking for something that he is no longer in a position to give. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 04/09/2018 15:34:37 2139172 Link 0 |
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Cluxton was unlucky to get an All Star last year but I think the issue that stops him is what the selectors are looking for. And I think high on that list is, flash. Clarke would have played twice the number of Championship matches last year and if you count just close games, maybe 3 times as many. He made crucial, game changing saves in virtually every game. Cluxton made one game changing save all year. He's just not getting the opportunity to shine. And his 2 All Stars from this era (He has 5 in all) were from 2011 and 2013, when he was still taking the frees and therefore a bit more in the spotlight. As a keeper myself I think he is technically the best goalie. And if it was just keepers who had a vote, I think he'd win every year. But these guys are looking for something that he is no longer in a position to give. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 04/09/2018 16:05:46 2139181 Link 0 |
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Brody wasn't as good as Beggan or Cluxton this year . I was at the Laois game against Monaghan . His shot stopping was exceptional that day but his kick outs especially in the first half were poor . You then add in Beggan's king range free taking and it's clear that he had more to offer than Brody . Cluxton apart from two errant long range kick outs from which two points were scored was excellent in the final .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 04/09/2018 16:58:23 2139197 Link 1 |
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Think of the persecution complex out of the Dubs if "Klucko duzzent gerr an all sterrrrr" this year. The carry on out of them last year was absolutely hilarious/ borderline embarrassing. Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1171 - 04/09/2018 20:57:28 2139256 Link 1 |