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Replying To shaggylegend:  "First five minutes Colm Cavanagh plays a ball over Ryan Mcanespie's head. Cool Cavanagh grabs Ryan and pulls him down on top of him. (It's showing clearly in the Montague at the start of the Sunday game). Referee then yellow cards Mcanespie."
That should have been a black card to Cavanagh but i think it was the linesman who made the call not the ref in thos instance. Terribke decision regardless and would have changed the game

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 13/08/2018 06:34:25    2132505

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A blind man could see monaghan were robbed. Obviously they got wrong calls in their favour but on the balance of the whole game he was very biased towards tyrone.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 13/08/2018 07:18:23    2132509

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Replying To MesAmis:  "He was telling Hughes to get up I thought. It certainly didn't look like a free to me.

Hughes had already bought a free previously as well so that may have been on the ref's mind.

Tyrone got some soft frees and Monaghan got some soft frees. Same as every other game ever played."
Tyrone got a lot more soft frees within scoring distance though..Black cards should have been given at times and were not. Its not Tyrones fault, let me get that out there first, and Tyrone probably shaded the game in my opinion, but a little bit of parity would have been nice..

Crowcrag (Monaghan) - Posts: 34 - 13/08/2018 07:36:17    2132511

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i'd love to see every poster above give refereeing a go,see how you all get on.
i viewed that decision as "there are 2 of them in it".

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 13/08/2018 08:27:00    2132517

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From a neutral point of view the referee gave some easy frees to both sides and missed some blatant fouls from both sides.

He done a decent job, wasn't perfect but then again who is?

Let's be honest the black card is finished in all but name and imho thank god for that but there's no way the GAA are going to back down and say we are officially scrapping it cos it was a woeful decision, it will just sit there as another rule that's never applied.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1333 - 13/08/2018 08:42:44    2132526

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "A blind man could see monaghan were robbed. Obviously they got wrong calls in their favour but on the balance of the whole game he was very biased towards tyrone."
They weren't robbed. A few decisions went against them, but then so did Tyrone. At the end of the match I had a feeling Monaghan were hard done by, but I went back and rewatched the match last night, replaying various touching points. No doubt there were some harsh calls. But they got away with a lot too, and Tyrone were harshly penalised as well. McManus seems to be very well protected and gets some very handy frees every match. I felt both teams could feel aggrieved at various points.

My one big thing to take from this, is how hard it was to referee a match like that. Two Ulster teams going at each other like that, he was bound to miss things. Refs on a hiding to nothing

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2382 - 13/08/2018 09:13:32    2132531

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Replying To shaggylegend:  "First five minutes Colm Cavanagh plays a ball over Ryan Mcanespie's head. Cool Cavanagh grabs Ryan and pulls him down on top of him. (It's showing clearly in the Montague at the start of the Sunday game). Referee then yellow cards Mcanespie."
He got up and went striaght to the linesman complaining and then the umpire who actually appeared to shake his head at him. Next break in play McAnespie gets booked.

footballfirst (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 13/08/2018 09:15:27    2132533

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Replying To perfect10:  "i'd love to see every poster above give refereeing a go,see how you all get on.
i viewed that decision as "there are 2 of them in it"."
I've no problem with refs making mistakes during games; they're only human. The problem I have with refs is their obsession with blowing the whistle when it is often impossible to discern who the guilty party is or even if there is a guilty party. Surely if there is any doubt about a foul play should just continue, which would make the game more free-flowing. Instead, refs seem to blow the whistle whenever they're in doubt. At the moment refs are just ruining games blowing the whistle constantly, either wrongly, or for 50 50 situations. What are they trying to prove? All they're doing is destroying the spectacle and frustrating players and supporters. Perhaps the GAA needs to simplify the rules in order to prevent 80% of tackles and collisions resulting in frees?

kerryhound (Kerry) - Posts: 37 - 13/08/2018 09:18:30    2132537

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Ha ha....Get the red and white blinkers off....

Nolan had a bad day he gave Monaghan a few soft frees before half time for sure but he was hard on them in the early part.

Colm cavanagh diving to win that free was so blatant it was laughable

The line ball before the Tyrone goal was strange aswell clearly it was a Monaghan ball and not a free..

in the second half all the big calls went against Monaghan they can feel sorry for themselves but

Monaghans lack of composure ,Slow start and maybe belief also contributed to them not getting over the line but still came very close.

BigJohn.6_8 (Galway) - Posts: 704 - 13/08/2018 10:51:00    2132600

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Replying To Gavvygavgav:  "Nah, McNamee dragged him down, very lucky not to see black.

Ref was poor today, zero consistency"
No the Monaghan player done the pulling. Oldest trick in book. Should have being a Tyrone free.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 13/08/2018 11:41:26    2132629

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Replying To Crowcrag:  "Tyrone got a lot more soft frees within scoring distance though..Black cards should have been given at times and were not. Its not Tyrones fault, let me get that out there first, and Tyrone probably shaded the game in my opinion, but a little bit of parity would have been nice.."
Listen I haven't seen the game back but from my view both teams benefited from a few soft calls in their favour.

Cavanagh free as well as Hughes getting a very soft one into the hill at one stage for examples.

Every game has tight calls and some go for you and some go against. Happens every time you take the field. There is a tendency for the losing team in a close match to bemoan those that go against and wonder what might have been but that ignores the calls they did get.

Referees have a tough job and they'd be helped greatly if we were all a little bit more mature when discussing the winning and losing of games.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 13/08/2018 12:29:10    2132657

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I can't recall the ref blowing one "mark" at all, maybe he forgot! Its a tough job for one man, the two linesmen are fully qualified ref's and totally redundant yet there are four "unqualified" umpires making life and death calls - weird system.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 13/08/2018 12:48:11    2132675

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Every game has tight calls and some go for you and some go against. Happens every time you take the field. There is a tendency for the losing team in a close match to bemoan those that go against and wonder what might have been but that ignores the calls they did get.

Referees have a tough job and they'd be helped greatly if we were all a little bit more mature when discussing the winning and losing of games.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 11876 - 13/08/2018 12:29:10 2132657

+1,nail on head.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 13/08/2018 13:34:10    2132704

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