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Dubs V Best Of The Rest

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The Dubs are a machine, no county will stop them for the foreseeable future. They keep churning out a few new players each year. Were only in 3rd gear most of yesterdays match and still scored 1-24.
Would love to see an annual charity match played with the funds going towards the dubs deserved holiday abroad kitty. My team to rattle the mighty Dubs would consist of

1 - R Beggan
2 - K Higgins
3 - D Wylie
4 - Che Cullen
5 - P Harte
6 - C McKaigue
7 - L Keegan
8 - A O Shea
9 - D Moran
10 - M Donnelly
11 - M Murphy
12 - R McHugh
13 - D Clifford
14 - P McBrearty
15 - C McManus

just_the_facts (Cavan) - Posts: 163 - 12/08/2018 08:45:12    2132087

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Replying To just_the_facts:  "The Dubs are a machine, no county will stop them for the foreseeable future. They keep churning out a few new players each year. Were only in 3rd gear most of yesterdays match and still scored 1-24.
Would love to see an annual charity match played with the funds going towards the dubs deserved holiday abroad kitty. My team to rattle the mighty Dubs would consist of

1 - R Beggan
2 - K Higgins
3 - D Wylie
4 - Che Cullen
5 - P Harte
6 - C McKaigue
7 - L Keegan
8 - A O Shea
9 - D Moran
10 - M Donnelly
11 - M Murphy
12 - R McHugh
13 - D Clifford
14 - P McBrearty
15 - C McManus"
No Eoghan Ban..surely he should be on that team.????

RoryGall35 (Donegal) - Posts: 167 - 12/08/2018 09:32:15    2132096

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Replying To just_the_facts:  "The Dubs are a machine, no county will stop them for the foreseeable future. They keep churning out a few new players each year. Were only in 3rd gear most of yesterdays match and still scored 1-24.
Would love to see an annual charity match played with the funds going towards the dubs deserved holiday abroad kitty. My team to rattle the mighty Dubs would consist of

1 - R Beggan
2 - K Higgins
3 - D Wylie
4 - Che Cullen
5 - P Harte
6 - C McKaigue
7 - L Keegan
8 - A O Shea
9 - D Moran
10 - M Donnelly
11 - M Murphy
12 - R McHugh
13 - D Clifford
14 - P McBrearty
15 - C McManus"
Plenty will disagree on 'best of the rest' teams (Colm Cavanagh a shoe in IMO, etc.) but regardless; a team thrown together for a game like this would get destroyed by Dublin.

A pointless exercise.

We saw how Tyrone in Omagh gave them a game, Kerry always do in Killarney, Donegal in Ballybofey, Galway in Salthill.

There are competitive teams out there, they just need a level playing field!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5009 - 12/08/2018 09:37:46    2132099

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Fact is Dublin have sleepwalked their way to the final this year and will beat Tyrone or Monaghan easily in the final.

For all the mockery we have taken in recent years the championship is a bore fest without us.

Some team Dublin are.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 12/08/2018 10:04:40    2132115

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Unfortunately there isn't a level playing field and that's not Dublin's fault. Economic circumstances have dictated the move from rural Ireland to the capital or to foreign shores. My club has lost 3/5 of its players in the last 10 years to emigration. Historically there has been a move to Dublin for employment. Take the surnames of four of Dublin's top players for example, Kilkenny (his father a first cousin of Galway's best ever footballer i.e Seán Purcell), Mannion, a strong Galway surname; both Fenton and McMahon are Kerry surnames. There are many others. When one considers the number of GAA clubs in Dublin, the number of players and teams in each club, the amount of financial and coaching support they have received in the past 10 years, a set up that is professional plus management and players who are totally driven to break all records then one expects Dublin to win the next three All Irelands.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1785 - 12/08/2018 10:36:00    2132130

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Fact is Dublin have sleepwalked their way to the final this year and will beat Tyrone or Monaghan easily in the final.

For all the mockery we have taken in recent years the championship is a bore fest without us.

Some team Dublin are."
Come back Mayo, all is forgiven ;)

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 12/08/2018 10:41:08    2132134

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Plenty will disagree on 'best of the rest' teams (Colm Cavanagh a shoe in IMO, etc.) but regardless; a team thrown together for a game like this would get destroyed by Dublin.

A pointless exercise.

We saw how Tyrone in Omagh gave them a game, Kerry always do in Killarney, Donegal in Ballybofey, Galway in Salthill.

There are competitive teams out there, they just need a level playing field!"
Sure is the format as it is not a pointless exercise. Was inenvitable from day 1 who the winner this year would be.

just_the_facts (Cavan) - Posts: 163 - 12/08/2018 10:42:51    2132137

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Fact is Dublin have sleepwalked their way to the final this year and will beat Tyrone or Monaghan easily in the final.

For all the mockery we have taken in recent years the championship is a bore fest without us.

Some team Dublin are."
Couldn't agree more.

Mayo get a lot of mockery because we haven't been able to finish off the Dubs in those finals, a lot of it coming from south of our county border. "We'll show the neighbours how to beat Dublin," was the line from some Galway fans. Well, it turns out that it's not as easy as previously thought.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 12/08/2018 11:45:40    2132155

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A best of the rest team against the Dubs would be a big attraction all joking aside, now who would manage that team and the team selected would cause some debate, it might be the only time the Dubs are pushed to the limit.
There's a team building here in Donegal though that in I think in the next few years will have the ability to beat anyone, but beating the robotic blue machine at home is always a big task,

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2737 - 12/08/2018 12:17:51    2132166

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Fact is Dublin have sleepwalked their way to the final this year and will beat Tyrone or Monaghan easily in the final.

For all the mockery we have taken in recent years the championship is a bore fest without us.

Some team Dublin are."
Come on. Any football person worth their salt should acknowledge what ye have done. However football has been up and down for a number of years and not because ye are not in the latter stages of the championship.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 12/08/2018 12:29:37    2132173

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Replying To just_the_facts:  "The Dubs are a machine, no county will stop them for the foreseeable future. They keep churning out a few new players each year. Were only in 3rd gear most of yesterdays match and still scored 1-24.
Would love to see an annual charity match played with the funds going towards the dubs deserved holiday abroad kitty. My team to rattle the mighty Dubs would consist of

1 - R Beggan
2 - K Higgins
3 - D Wylie
4 - Che Cullen
5 - P Harte
6 - C McKaigue
7 - L Keegan
8 - A O Shea
9 - D Moran
10 - M Donnelly
11 - M Murphy
12 - R McHugh
13 - D Clifford
14 - P McBrearty
15 - C McManus"
Dubs by 10+

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 12/08/2018 12:30:53    2132174

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Replying To just_the_facts:  "The Dubs are a machine, no county will stop them for the foreseeable future. They keep churning out a few new players each year. Were only in 3rd gear most of yesterdays match and still scored 1-24.
Would love to see an annual charity match played with the funds going towards the dubs deserved holiday abroad kitty. My team to rattle the mighty Dubs would consist of

1 - R Beggan
2 - K Higgins
3 - D Wylie
4 - Che Cullen
5 - P Harte
6 - C McKaigue
7 - L Keegan
8 - A O Shea
9 - D Moran
10 - M Donnelly
11 - M Murphy
12 - R McHugh
13 - D Clifford
14 - P McBrearty
15 - C McManus"
By the way, Aidan OShea in that starting xv ?? Christ on a bike.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 12/08/2018 12:43:30    2132178

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You never answered my question about Eoghan Ban..?????

RoryGall35 (Donegal) - Posts: 167 - 12/08/2018 13:03:36    2132188

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Replying To waynoI:  "By the way, Aidan OShea in that starting xv ?? Christ on a bike."
An quality footballer who gave Fenton and McCarthy their fill of it last year nearly single handedly.

Crazy the amount of criticism the man gets!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5009 - 12/08/2018 13:09:02    2132191

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Graham Reilly should be there.

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 315 - 12/08/2018 13:11:44    2132193

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Replying To baire:  "Unfortunately there isn't a level playing field and that's not Dublin's fault. Economic circumstances have dictated the move from rural Ireland to the capital or to foreign shores. My club has lost 3/5 of its players in the last 10 years to emigration. Historically there has been a move to Dublin for employment. Take the surnames of four of Dublin's top players for example, Kilkenny (his father a first cousin of Galway's best ever footballer i.e Seán Purcell), Mannion, a strong Galway surname; both Fenton and McMahon are Kerry surnames. There are many others. When one considers the number of GAA clubs in Dublin, the number of players and teams in each club, the amount of financial and coaching support they have received in the past 10 years, a set up that is professional plus management and players who are totally driven to break all records then one expects Dublin to win the next three All Irelands."
Checking surnames is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Cork have more clubs than Dublin. Money doesn't buy you AIs, great work ethic and a playing ethos does. It costs nothing. At the end of the day Dublin field 15 men, not 4.5m. Croatia were runners up in the WC this year. Look at it, learn from it, improve. At some stage this great team will falter. Instead of being dazzled by them, other teams should be reaching for them and waiting in the long grass for them when they falter. That's what a young Kerry team did to Dublin in the 70s.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 12/08/2018 13:32:38    2132205

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A load of nonsense. I f***ing hate all this crying about Dublin being too strong. Look, it's obviously going to take a team playing at their optimum to topple Dublin. Galway are a good team but for me yesterday they were seriously lacking in intensity.

To beat Dublin:

- manic intensity from first to last whistle (easier said than done I know but a prerequisite which underpins anything else, tactical or otherwise.

- Clinical finishing (esp goal opportunities). Galway missed a penalty yesterday, some scorable frees and had a few horrible wides from play.

- Cut out unnecessary fouling in the scoring zone. Lazy tackling must be avoided at all costs.

Even with the above you're probably needing Dublin to be slightly off colour. But all this whining about this advantage and that. Bollocks. Look at Monaghan - 4th lowest population in the country and playing in an AI semi final today.
Hard work, dedication & no little talent got them there. Noone got anywhere moaning and crying all day.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9108 - 12/08/2018 14:16:18    2132225

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "A load of nonsense. I f***ing hate all this crying about Dublin being too strong. Look, it's obviously going to take a team playing at their optimum to topple Dublin. Galway are a good team but for me yesterday they were seriously lacking in intensity.

To beat Dublin:

- manic intensity from first to last whistle (easier said than done I know but a prerequisite which underpins anything else, tactical or otherwise.

- Clinical finishing (esp goal opportunities). Galway missed a penalty yesterday, some scorable frees and had a few horrible wides from play.

- Cut out unnecessary fouling in the scoring zone. Lazy tackling must be avoided at all costs.

Even with the above you're probably needing Dublin to be slightly off colour. But all this whining about this advantage and that. Bollocks. Look at Monaghan - 4th lowest population in the country and playing in an AI semi final today.
Hard work, dedication & no little talent got them there. Noone got anywhere moaning and crying all day."
Totally agree look at Monaghan minors today giving it a proper lash , we are getting our backside handed to us in underage at both codes because of talent and teams not carrying the chip on the shoulder baggage that hinders many , Dublin have been successful because if talent great coach and that bit of luck all teams need, but those factors don't go on for ever

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 12/08/2018 15:22:06    2132236

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "A load of nonsense. I f***ing hate all this crying about Dublin being too strong. Look, it's obviously going to take a team playing at their optimum to topple Dublin. Galway are a good team but for me yesterday they were seriously lacking in intensity.

To beat Dublin:

- manic intensity from first to last whistle (easier said than done I know but a prerequisite which underpins anything else, tactical or otherwise.

- Clinical finishing (esp goal opportunities). Galway missed a penalty yesterday, some scorable frees and had a few horrible wides from play.

- Cut out unnecessary fouling in the scoring zone. Lazy tackling must be avoided at all costs.

Even with the above you're probably needing Dublin to be slightly off colour. But all this whining about this advantage and that. Bollocks. Look at Monaghan - 4th lowest population in the country and playing in an AI semi final today.
Hard work, dedication & no little talent got them there. Noone got anywhere moaning and crying all day."
Completely agree if Galway did all of the below we would have given dublin a game and had a real chance. Missing the penalty and the 45 from it the heads dropped. If that had been dublin they would have picked themselves up and got on woth it.I would say the galway lads have massive regrets today. Nonetheless the have given us a great year much better than i expected

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 12/08/2018 16:11:49    2132257

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Replying To galwayfball:  "Completely agree if Galway did all of the below we would have given dublin a game and had a real chance. Missing the penalty and the 45 from it the heads dropped. If that had been dublin they would have picked themselves up and got on woth it.I would say the galway lads have massive regrets today. Nonetheless the have given us a great year much better than i expected"
Galway did not miss the penalty, Cluxton saved it. I was surprised that Walsh didn't take it. If Galway had scored the penalty and were ahead by a point or two at half time, Dublin's bench is of such quality that they would still have won comfortably. There are at least 5 players on the Galway team who are not up to the standard required on the big day and they don't have the quality off the bench. It being their first AISF they put up a decent performance for 40 minutes.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1785 - 12/08/2018 18:00:51    2132334

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