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Bit too soon, but I'm sure there must be some out now about every Leinster football final since 2011... An exception doesn't prove a rule, what do they be teaching you up there in all them fancy Dublin Universities? TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 12/07/2018 18:50:27 2121099 Link 3 |
That's brilliant :-)
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/07/2018 19:09:49 2121103 Link 1 |
Games? Training sessions more like.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 12/07/2018 19:13:18 2121105 Link 0 |
Yerra ya sure not every game can be an edge of the seat thriller like Dublin/Wicklow or Dublin/Wexford ;D
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 12/07/2018 19:51:57 2121115 Link 3 |
Nothing from the Kerry lads , need a map to find Croatia or Iceland , you were quick enough to comment earlier , when your finished backslapping for who can but up the next Dublin put down post perhaps you can explain why in sport one and one doesn't allways add up , but as it doesn't fit your profile and agenda , one trick pony's, completely devoid of anything else worthy of debate
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 12/07/2018 20:15:51 2121119 Link 5 |
You mean the ones that are full of students from the country?
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 12/07/2018 21:13:26 2121145 Link 1 |
Replying to your self Damo? Dude soccer and football are two different games, the soccer boys were playing in mostly neutral venues with impartial refs, would Iceland and Croatia have got those result in wembley with English refs? KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/07/2018 21:17:55 2121147 Link 1 |
Same two counties competing in Munster for the silverware for the past quarter of a century and one of those is a hurling county. Did somebody say something about fairness?
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 12/07/2018 21:22:20 2121149 Link 5 |
Population and resources = success according to this forum neatly you haven't addressed that which if you'd read my posts you'd know where I was going , so we will try again Croatia Iceland v England now no spin answer the question is resources and population a guarantee of success ?
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 12/07/2018 22:33:16 2121171 Link 3 |
Mayo v Galway? jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 12/07/2018 22:55:00 2121181 Link 0 |
The title of the thread is very straightforward. This thread is supposed to be a broader conversation. An argument is someone looking to be right. A conversation is to find out what is right. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 14/07/2018 10:16:38 2121506 Link 1 |
Take the Dubs out of it and there were 7 home games in the Super 8s this summer. The final count was 5 away wins, 1 home win and a draw. The only home win was Kerry against eliminated Kildare. Of course the Dubs won their 2 games in Croke Park. I might be going crazy but I'm starting to think they are successful because they are a good side rather than because of where they play their games. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 05/08/2018 22:37:43 2129735 Link 1 |
Away with you and your pesky facts and stats. Kerry and Mayo would have won 2 AIs each, don't you know, if it wasn't for the Dubs having home advantage all of the time. Malachy Clerkin attributes all of Dublin's success to our Croke Park residency apparently. Drop him a note perhaps. So it turns out that playimg at home in the championship is a disadvantage afterall.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 06/08/2018 00:25:05 2129786 Link 2 |
In this format, provincial champions will be favourites against qualifier teams more often than not, be it home or away. Galway were already qualified. There's very little between Tyrone and Donegal. It was an Ulster derby. Home advantage should was there for Donegal. Full credit to Tyrone for overcoming that. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 06/08/2018 10:26:40 2129889 Link 0 |
I found it amusing yesterday the RTE commentator speaking about Michael Murphy knowing everything about Ballybofey pitch, wind direction etc as he lined up a free from 45 metres. He drove it wide and a few minutes later Morgan hit a much more difficult one from the other end and put it over. If you can hit a free in a club pitch in Offaly you can hit a free in Donegal, Cork or Dublin. Home advantage is significant in some sports as the bigger home crowd can influence referees and players often try harder when playing in front of those who are paying them. In GAA, where the crowd is often 50:50, the idea of home advantage is just another excuse used to try and run down this excellent Dublin team. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 06/08/2018 12:02:36 2129928 Link 1 |
Well I guess your points have been on stony ground from the start. Are Dublin more familiar with CP as a result of the Spring Series than other teams? Yes. Is this more familiarity, bearing in mind that players from those counties competing at the business end of the season are also very familiar with CP, a large enough advantage that it could sway a game i.e. trump whatever gap may exist anyway due to simply being better? Doubtful I would say. Are ALL Leinster teams at a similar advantage, and have they always been, given that the closing rounds of the LSFC have always been at CP? Yes. What boost does playing Dublin at CP give the opposition? Woukd it be sufficient to neutralise any Dublin "familiarity" advantage? Quite likely I would say. How many more games are Dublin getting in CP anyway, per year, that may lead to this familiarity advantage? Perhaps 4 or 5 I would say. However, don't forget that the opposition is also playing in CP for these games too. So they themselves are becoming more familiar with the ground. If the opposition gets to the league final they may play 3 games in CP in the league alone. Wow!! So let's assume that it is an unfair, albeit immeasurable, advantage? Do we move Dublin's home league games to Parnell and leave thousands of fans, the lifeblood of the sport, with no access? Do we forego the revenue from the CP games and that which is distributed to other counties? What do we do with Croke Park? Should Dublin build a new 30K seater stadium even though there is a ready made venue in the centre of the capital? All for what? For the sake of 4 or 5 games in CP that may or may not give Dublin an immeausurable advantage over opposition in the semis and final of the championship, an advantage that may or may not be neutralised by the boost received by the opposition in playing Dublin at that venue. Much ado about nothing it seems to me.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 06/08/2018 12:20:24 2129940 Link 2 |
I was looking for some stats for a conversation I was having with another poster on the kerry page when I came across this thread from nearly 2 and a half years ago. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 01/12/2020 14:24:48 2317322 Link 1 |
My God.. you have it bad!!
jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 01/12/2020 14:46:53 2317327 Link 1 |
I'd say McHale Park has been worth -3 or -4 points to Mayo in recent times. Our home win rate in the league must be well under 50% averaged over the last 5 or 6 years. Doesn't affect the support levels though... Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 01/12/2020 15:06:11 2317331 Link 2 |
Thats for sure -:)
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 01/12/2020 15:14:06 2317336 Link 0 |