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Replying To witnof: "And Donegal voted for the Super 8 format etc, and I think were one of the counties that 2nd the motion!!!
This is why I wonder if it had not been Dublin would there be this fuss?" You are right, the Donegal county board did vote for the Super 8s and should have been paying more attention to the finer details. For me the issue is not clouded by any Dublin bias, I just feel Donegal are having to play 2 away games. I would feel the exact same thing if we had to play 2 away games to other counties.
I get your point though, some people are just wanting to have a dig at Dublin which I don't agree with. I am afraid this comes with the terriortry of being a successful team, others want to knock you off your perch. Before JMcG came along everybody loved Donegal as we were no threat, that all changed once we started winning things. I guess its a back handed compliment.
Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 06/07/2018 12:24:06
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Any Dub equivalent of a Football Special???
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 06/07/2018 12:30:24
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Replying To Green_Gold: "You are right, the Donegal county board did vote for the Super 8s and should have been paying more attention to the finer details. For me the issue is not clouded by any Dublin bias, I just feel Donegal are having to play 2 away games. I would feel the exact same thing if we had to play 2 away games to other counties.
I get your point though, some people are just wanting to have a dig at Dublin which I don't agree with. I am afraid this comes with the terriortry of being a successful team, others want to knock you off your perch. Before JMcG came along everybody loved Donegal as we were no threat, that all changed once we started winning things. I guess its a back handed compliment." Green_Gold to be honest I think it was more the style that the fact you were a threat.
Jesus that semi in '11 was something....though if you remember the goal chances missed Donegal should have won
witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 06/07/2018 13:01:52
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Replying To JoeSoap: "Any Dub equivalent of a Football Special???" I hope not.
That stuff is special alright! Sugar in liquid form, rocket fuel for children!
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 06/07/2018 13:07:16
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Just perfect to wash down a big bowl of coddle.
MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 06/07/2018 13:59:54
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Replying To witnof: "And Donegal voted for the Super 8 format etc, and I think were one of the counties that 2nd the motion!!!
This is why I wonder if it had not been Dublin would there be this fuss?" Well no, because no other county uses it as their home ground.
joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 214 - 06/07/2018 14:11:27
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Replying To witnof: "Green_Gold to be honest I think it was more the style that the fact you were a threat.
Jesus that semi in '11 was something....though if you remember the goal chances missed Donegal should have won" We actually should have won that game but didn't push on in the second half when it was there for the taking, I don't think we were ready that year. It will be interesting to see how Declan Bonner approaches this game, will he go more defensive? Personally I don't think he will as we don't have the defensive type of players to play that game anymore.
Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 06/07/2018 14:41:22
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Replying To MesAmis: "I hope not.
That stuff is special alright! Sugar in liquid form, rocket fuel for children!" Rocket fuel for adults too in all fairness! Perfect cure for a hangover I'm telling ya Mes :)
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 06/07/2018 15:29:55
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As the week moves on I'm less optimistic for Saturday. There's a real flat atmosphere in Donegal about the game and I can only poor out down to Paddy's injury.
At the start of the season we'd have taken an Ulster title and the opportunity for these young lads to play in the super 8 and it feels like we've achieved that goal. I just hope we are competitive in Saturday night and have a go.
This is a great Dublin team who relish a good test. Whenever a stiff challenge comes along they are usually mentally ready for it and try to blow teams away in the first 15 mins. In the league Kildare, Monaghan, Tyrone and Kerry exposed huge holes around the D in our defence. This Saturday will be the first test of we've closed it. I don't think we have and players like Mc Caffery, Kilkenny and Fenton will get goal chances.
Truth be told I expect Dublin to win all three games so out won't be the end of the road of we lose on Saturday however a big defeat could have an effect on a young team, most of which are under 24.
Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 10/07/2018 08:02:16
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Starting to get excited about this now.
Word here is that Donegal are going for this big time & are are going to adopt the Dublin attitude of "whatever you score, we will score more" It has worked well for them up to now & there is no point in them going defensive as they don't have that in them & qualification is down to a head to head of teams on the same points as opposed to scoring difference.
Donegal have had 3 weeks to adjust to the loss of Paddy McBrearty, who it must be remembered scored 0-1 out of 2-18 in the Ulster final,They will have a cunning plan & with JMcG is sprinkling his magic dust who knows what might happen.
If Donegal do throw caution to the winds then the potential for disaster is obvious but it should make for a great game & you never do know. If Dublin were to lose then their trip to Omagh would be squeaky bum time.
MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 10/07/2018 09:10:45
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Really looking forward to it as well. I won't make it down unfortunately due to the ludicrous time it's being played at so it'll be the high stool for me.
I agree with you Muckross. Trying to go ultra defensive at this stage would be a step backwards. Ultimately Dublin would beat us as they have proven they know how to think around a blanket defence at this stage. I think we should get down there and have a good cut at them and just see where it takes us. Obviously having Paddy there would make a huge difference but the scoring has been spread throughout the team so far so I'm not as despondent as I was initially when I heard Paddy's news.
If we can match them for an hour and be in touch I'll be happy. I have visions of Ryan scoring one if not two of his trademark palmed in goals!! Hopefully we can keep them out at the other end and maybe, just maybe!!
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9115 - 10/07/2018 10:46:48
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Honestly the biggest mistake nowadays playing Dublin is going ultra defensive their so use to it now I think they actually love playing against it , go toe to toe and you'll cause them more problems, Donegal are one team like Mayo/Kerry that get into Dublin heads and always seem to trouble us and I think they can Saturday , I'll be nervous going in but without the massive loss of McBreaty I'm confident of a Dublin win but it won't be easy.
Until we're beaten Dublin supporters will always be confident of winning seen as we always win but our best player our difference maker is over in America playing Mickey Mouse football I think down the line this season that could really hurt us especially with Paul Flynn nowhere near all star Paul Flynn standards.
Anyway for all other teams you only find out we're exactly you're at when you play Dublin in a massive championship game in a packed Croke Park.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 10/07/2018 11:18:04
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If we go defensive in some hair-brained idea about score difference I'll be bitterly disappointed. Go out and try to win every game. No point in going in with the mentality of keeping a score down, you're beaten before you're on the pitch, what on earth is the point of that. Imagine if we manage to catch the Dubs on the hop and then they have to go up to Omagh to keep their Championship alive!
Play as we have all year, a bit of tactical nous would be nice to see but I can't imagine Declan asking these players to go against their instincts for this one game. Not only would it be a step backward for the squad, I don't think they are capable of that ultra defensive game. They are pure running footballers and I think asking them to do that is ineffective and will play into the Dubs hands.
In reality we are a good bit behind Dublin at the minute, and while scoring has been spread throughout the squad, Paddy absolutely loves Croke Park. He is worth a good 6 or 7 points at this stage of the season. We have had time to prepare without him but I cannot see a win here with him out injured. A really massive loss but I will be interested to see if Murphy spends a lot more time in at the square as a result.
Very excited about it, Dublin in Croke Park at the business end of the Championship, where else would you wanna be!
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 10/07/2018 12:58:53
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Replying To clondalkindub: "Honestly the biggest mistake nowadays playing Dublin is going ultra defensive their so use to it now I think they actually love playing against it , go toe to toe and you'll cause them more problems, Donegal are one team like Mayo/Kerry that get into Dublin heads and always seem to trouble us and I think they can Saturday , I'll be nervous going in but without the massive loss of McBreaty I'm confident of a Dublin win but it won't be easy.
Until we're beaten Dublin supporters will always be confident of winning seen as we always win but our best player our difference maker is over in America playing Mickey Mouse football I think down the line this season that could really hurt us especially with Paul Flynn nowhere near all star Paul Flynn standards.
Anyway for all other teams you only find out we're exactly you're at when you play Dublin in a massive championship game in a packed Croke Park." Agree 100%.
If you manage to beat Dublin in a packed Croke Park then life truly is good.
Doesn't happen very often but when it does..........
MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 10/07/2018 15:23:37
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Paddys loss is huge not in the sense that he might get you 4 scores, but in the sense that, that's another brilliant Dublin man marker free to go on someone else, we can't work our "plays" around him like before, all eyes will be on MM and Ryan now. Also his ball winning ability is massive and that's the biggest loss.
On a positive note we have players like Langan, Thompson, Odhran, Stephen Mc B, Eoin Ban and Paul Brennan so we have a healthy young squad.
The big difference between this Donegal team and the teams in the past is that we are not relying on 3 individuals for scores. We have attacking talent coming through, albeit a year or two too young ajd with Paddy missing to beat the Dubs this year. Hope we give a good account of ourselves, I'd be afraid that the inexperienced players might get exposed. Still a great learning curve.
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Replying To TheRock2121: "Paddys loss is huge not in the sense that he might get you 4 scores, but in the sense that, that's another brilliant Dublin man marker free to go on someone else, we can't work our "plays" around him like before, all eyes will be on MM and Ryan now. Also his ball winning ability is massive and that's the biggest loss.
On a positive note we have players like Langan, Thompson, Odhran, Stephen Mc B, Eoin Ban and Paul Brennan so we have a healthy young squad.
The big difference between this Donegal team and the teams in the past is that we are not relying on 3 individuals for scores. We have attacking talent coming through, albeit a year or two too young ajd with Paddy missing to beat the Dubs this year. Hope we give a good account of ourselves, I'd be afraid that the inexperienced players might get exposed. Still a great learning curve." Paddy is a massive loss no doubt. Best player on the pitch by a country mile at our home game at CP in the league. Haven't seen much of Donegal in the summer. Is MM likely to play out the field around the middle?
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Replying To Joxer: "Paddy is a massive loss no doubt. Best player on the pitch by a country mile at our home game at CP in the league. Haven't seen much of Donegal in the summer. Is MM likely to play out the field around the middle?" Home game at CP joxer?
Surely not!
MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 10/07/2018 19:48:51
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Replying To MuckrossHead: "Home game at CP joxer?
Surely not!" Quick, get on to Croke Park and tell them you want....
Oh ! They did ?
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Replying To MuckrossHead: "Home game at CP joxer?
Surely not!" That was deliberate Muck. If people want to call it our home ground then we shall declare it as such. Ye can't have it both ways lads. Bring your litter home with ye on Saturday please. :)
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 10/07/2018 23:11:17
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Replying To Joxer: "Paddy is a massive loss no doubt. Best player on the pitch by a country mile at our home game at CP in the league. Haven't seen much of Donegal in the summer. Is MM likely to play out the field around the middle?" That's the big question about Murphy now. I think you'll see him in at the square early on and if it's proving effective a lot will then depend on how Dublin react to that tactically. He's been rotated a lot in and out the field so far this year, but in the Ulster final he definitely spent most of his time in between the 45s.
As I mentioned earlier I think without Paddy in there, he'll have a bigger role to play as 14 on Saturday. But then again the likes of Odhran and Michael Langan have played in the full forward line before for their clubs so that could be an option too.
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 11/07/2018 10:24:55
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