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Incident At Cavan V Down Match

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By all reports the Cavan and Down match had an unsavoury incident at the end of this evening's match. Following the coverage of incidents over the past number of weeks, can we now expect the CCCC to ask for video coverage? Is there a possibility of suspensions which have already been proposed for other teams this year?

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 23/06/2018 19:38:28    2113949

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I can't comment on what happened because I haven't seen it but In light of the Armagh vs Tyrone under age game the book will be thrown at them. GAA set the prescient, they have to back it up now. It will be interesting to see what they do

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 23/06/2018 19:52:59    2113954

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what allegedly happened

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 23/06/2018 19:59:08    2113955

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Replying To waynoI:  "what allegedly happened"
Melee and 3 sent off. I'm sure videos will be up soon enough

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 23/06/2018 20:13:24    2113966

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All started with Down player Darren O'Hagan striking out not once but twice at McKiernan after final whistle yet he received no card. Poor game cavan were very lucky to win

97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 316 - 23/06/2018 21:48:41    2114024

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Just seen some of the footage of the melee. Should both teams be kicked out? Clear punching and head butting.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 24/06/2018 13:33:45    2114182

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Just seen some of the footage of the melee. Should both teams be kicked out? Clear punching and head butting."
Why would teams be kicked out over this?

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 24/06/2018 14:03:54    2114191

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Replying To arock:  "Why would teams be kicked out over this?"
Go to thread about about Armagh Ca Tyrone u20's. many many people said both should be kicked out. Why not in this case? Where's the uproar?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 24/06/2018 14:10:34    2114197

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Damn Nordies and half Nordies.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 24/06/2018 14:15:04    2114199

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Just seen some of the footage of the melee. Should both teams be kicked out? Clear punching and head butting."
Have you a link to the footage? Haven't seen any yet.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 24/06/2018 14:47:19    2114210

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Have you a link to the footage? Haven't seen any yet."
I don't. It was on Sunday Game before Donegal match

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 24/06/2018 14:56:45    2114213

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Top brass at the GAA have buried their heads in the sand over these type of incidents for years, time the GAA punished teams for this type of behaviour, pointless fining teams as it's the clubs that have to foot the bill, a better way of punishment is to throw teams out of the championship so in this case Cavan as victors would be thrown out/ disqualified of the 2018 championship, Down as the losing side would be disqualified for the 2019 championship, we called for stronger sanctions after the Galway Mayo mêlée in the League where people were calling for points deducted from both teams so in that case Mayo would have been relegated to division 2 for 2019 but nothing was done

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 24/06/2018 15:23:16    2114221

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Be a handy game in the qualifiers against Cavan so

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 24/06/2018 17:28:34    2114252

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Replying To riverboys:  "Top brass at the GAA have buried their heads in the sand over these type of incidents for years, time the GAA punished teams for this type of behaviour, pointless fining teams as it's the clubs that have to foot the bill, a better way of punishment is to throw teams out of the championship so in this case Cavan as victors would be thrown out/ disqualified of the 2018 championship, Down as the losing side would be disqualified for the 2019 championship, we called for stronger sanctions after the Galway Mayo mêlée in the League where people were calling for points deducted from both teams so in that case Mayo would have been relegated to division 2 for 2019 but nothing was done"
So your argument is that despite the fact Mayo and Galway weren't deducted points or thrown out, you'd still throw Cavan and Down out!??

You do realise how ridiculous that sounds, right?


How about the perpetrators be identified based on footage and the referees report and sanctioned in line with the current rules? That could well lead to 6 or 7 Cavan players being suspended, but if that's the case, so be it.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 24/06/2018 18:08:16    2114278

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Replying To cavanman47:  "So your argument is that despite the fact Mayo and Galway weren't deducted points or thrown out, you'd still throw Cavan and Down out!??

You do realise how ridiculous that sounds, right?


How about the perpetrators be identified based on footage and the referees report and sanctioned in line with the current rules? That could well lead to 6 or 7 Cavan players being suspended, but if that's the case, so be it."
No. Throw the counties/clubs out. That way, player's will realise the consequences of their actions, and the counties/clubs will need to pick players who don't have a tendency to resort to thuggery when things don't go their way. These sort of incidents, plus the abuse of referees (being escorted of pitches by Gardai), are on the increase. It's time for drastic action.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2446 - 24/06/2018 18:57:49    2114295

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Replying To cavanman47:  "So your argument is that despite the fact Mayo and Galway weren't deducted points or thrown out, you'd still throw Cavan and Down out!??

You do realise how ridiculous that sounds, right?


How about the perpetrators be identified based on footage and the referees report and sanctioned in line with the current rules? That could well lead to 6 or 7 Cavan players being suspended, but if that's the case, so be it."
How could you throw teams out of the League unless you relegate them to the lowest division for next year, deducting points hurts them now, there is no punishment in championship, fining the county punishes clubs not the county team, suspending players may work but that won't cut out the nonsense, players will still be at that s##t hoping the camera or officials don't spot them and they avoid suspension but if the entire team is affected by your actions you may think twice, you have to come down hard to stop the rot, count how many underage matches have hit the headlines for this behaviour. The GAA have to get a hold on this, use this simple rule 'as of January 1st 2019 players and management involved in disciplinary behaviour like fighting involving majority of both teams is an automatic removal from the championship as winners this year or losers next year'. 1 final point our mate Cormac I wouldn't allow him to watch over a glass of water never mind a GAA match

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 24/06/2018 23:44:02    2114447

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Replying To cavanman47:  "So your argument is that despite the fact Mayo and Galway weren't deducted points or thrown out, you'd still throw Cavan and Down out!??

You do realise how ridiculous that sounds, right?


How about the perpetrators be identified based on footage and the referees report and sanctioned in line with the current rules? That could well lead to 6 or 7 Cavan players being suspended, but if that's the case, so be it."
Correct

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 25/06/2018 01:34:29    2114469

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Go to thread about about Armagh Ca Tyrone u20's. many many people said both should be kicked out. Why not in this case? Where's the uproar?"
By all means punish the offenders - not the entire county there is no provision to do this anyway. Simply do what was done in the Armagh game and pick out the offenders and ban them.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 25/06/2018 12:12:26    2114622

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