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Replying To begining:  "Same reason that the semi final pairing can magically change over night, If you are a Meath hurling person you'll know exactly why this is. I'd hope you've just asked the question to highlight it, instead of looking for answers.

The mollycoddling that Kildalkey receive do them no favors in the long run. A semi final v a depleted Trim team or a Kilyon team that are off the back of two hidings will be poor preparation for Longwood/Kiltale/Ratoath"
The semi finals wernt swapped, let the paranaio go.

It is a fair point about venues, favourable fixtures etc. but please don't say the county board is changing match ups to suit a team

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 21/08/2018 13:16:11    2135241

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Replying To begining:  "Same reason that the semi final pairing can magically change over night, If you are a Meath hurling person you'll know exactly why this is. I'd hope you've just asked the question to highlight it, instead of looking for answers.

The mollycoddling that Kildalkey receive do them no favors in the long run. A semi final v a depleted Trim team or a Kilyon team that are off the back of two hidings will be poor preparation for Longwood/Kiltale/Ratoath"
I am not really a hurling person although I do keep an eye on the results with interest particularly over teh past two years. I obviously don't know the history - why would Kildalkey get special treatment?

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 21/08/2018 13:30:45    2135246

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Here is the relevant paragraph from Co Board Regulations, "After the League stages, the top two teams in Group A qualify for Semi Finals with the Third and Fourth placed teams play the top two teams in section B in the Quarter Finals.
A4 v B1 v A1
A3 v B2 v A2.
The team that finishes 6th in Group A is placed in Group B for the following year and is replaced by the
Top team in Group B.
Bottom team in Group B to be relegated to Intermediate Hurling Championship.
Senior Hurling Relegation; the same method above 6.20 TO Regulation 47(b) applies to relegation as
qualification.

The above means that the winners of Kiltale (A4) v Longwood (B1) play Ratoath (A1) in one Semi-final. And the winners of Killyon (A3) v Trim (B2) play Kildalkey (A2).

I guess the Co Board in their haste on saturday night got it wrong, hence the change.

StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 21/08/2018 16:32:31    2135342

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I love a good conspiracy as much as the next lad, but I really don't see the county board changing the competition rules just to favour one team, no matter who is in charge.

As for venues and times, I do sometimes wonder; there was one year maybe 3 years ago where in one senior group, every single game was played in either Navan or Kildalkey, which seemed suspect.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1642 - 21/08/2018 17:59:44    2135379

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Looking forward to Trim V Killyon. Should be a cracker. I still think winner of this game could have a big say in championship yet. Trim getting all players back while Killyon were qualified and after 3 rounds and eased up then. For all the talk lately on this forum I for one hope this game is played in Kildalkey, cracking venue for hurling, always well presented and creates a great atmosphere. Yes they do get some preference at times but the conspiracies that are flying around are ridiculous and bad taste to a good club and good people involved voluntary to club and county I may add, and this is coming from someone who is from rival neighbouring club but I respect the efforts of this club and its officials.

Redsalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 21/08/2018 19:30:31    2135411

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kildalkey getting special treatment yet again, but still wont get them to a championship final and for the real supporters of meath hurling the kildalkey representative will hopefully be gone next year with a man from trim taking his place

RoyalMcgregor (Meath) - Posts: 4 - 21/08/2018 22:35:00    2135480

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Kildalkey down to play the Div 1 and Div 3 hurling finals the same night - no special treatment there

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 24/08/2018 16:47:32    2136357

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Had to happen. The popes trip over rode the county board.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 25/08/2018 00:44:45    2136454

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Replying To Belt:  "Kildalkey down to play the Div 1 and Div 3 hurling finals the same night - no special treatment there"
Funny you should mention that , the reason both teams are in finals is because of special treatment

I watched the div 3 team three times this year , i counted 7 mayby 8 lads that started / played in last years county final playing on it , not to mention 1 county player

also the div one team are only in the final because of the fast one they pulled in what was essentially a league semi , against kiltale , fixing it randomly 2 days before meath played knowing kiltale would be without half a team

we could all post more examples

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 415 - 25/08/2018 12:32:22    2136490

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By any chance is there a kildalkey man over fixtures in county board

JohnboyWalton (Meath) - Posts: 19 - 25/08/2018 14:30:13    2136502

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Will that Div3 league final against Kildalkey go ahead next Friday seeing that Dunderry are due to play provisional 1/4 final in the Intermediate football championship that weekend

blowin27 (Meath) - Posts: 32 - 25/08/2018 16:01:52    2136512

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AHL Div 1 final
Ratoath v Kildalkey Friday 31/8/18 20.15pm Dunganny Ratoath by 3

SHC quarter-finals
Kiltale v Longwood Saturday 1/9/18 15.00pm Pairc Tailteann Kiltale by 12
Killyon v Trim Saturday 1/9/18 16.30pm Pairc Tailteann Trim by 2

IHC quarter-finals
Gaeil Colmcille v Don/Ashbourne Saturday 1/9/18 15.00pm Trim Gaeil Colmcille by 6
Drumree v Wolfe Tones Saturday 1/9/18 16.30pm Trim Drumree by 3

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 28/08/2018 11:21:52    2137032

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Replying To JohnboyWalton:  "By any chance is there a kildalkey man over fixtures in county board"
dont think Kildalkey have anyone on the CCC, maybe others could confirm this,

StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 28/08/2018 13:20:18    2137099

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Replying To JohnboyWalton:  "By any chance is there a kildalkey man over fixtures in county board"
As per County Board website the following are on the CCCC: Chairperson, Oliver Cudden, Duleek/Bellewstown; Secretary, Jimmy Henry, Clann na nGael; Frank Gallogly, Dunshaughlin & Referee Administration; Anne McDonnell, Summerhill; Greg Twomey, Don/Ash; John Gilmartin, Dunboyne; Peter Collins, Moynalvey and Gene Smith, Nobber.
Also there are fixture Analysts namely Oliver Keegan, Gaeil Colmcille and John Andrews, Trim.

Maybe it should be noted from the above that two of Kiltale's sister clubs (Football clubs that supply hurlers to them) are represented on the CCCC. Maybe a few questions in their direction might elicit the information so eagerly saught on this forum.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1061 - 28/08/2018 15:05:36    2137142

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Kiltale v Longwood: Longwood have every chance here if they produce a huge team performance. They're scoring more heavily this year and the B group has done wonders for them. Kiltale are slowly getting things together and will still be tough to beat. Kiltale by 2pts.
Trim V Kiltale: Great game to look forward too, Trim getting stronger Toher and Heffernan will make them a real force, Killyon are tough and have quality in Keoghan and Gannon. Hard to call, Killyon by 5pts after extra time.
I believe hurling only has two hurling men on Meath CCC, Clann an nGael and Kiltale representative, lots of big games in Athboy over last few years too.

Redsalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 28/08/2018 15:34:36    2137162

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kells should beat don/ash easy by 5 or 6 points

i would also expect wolf tones to beat drumree easy if they have full team to select from , 7 or 8


i cant call trim v killyon , could go extra time

longwood v kiltale , hard to tell where longwood really are with group b so poor
also hard tell if kiltale have turned a corner in last match

you would expect kiltale to win , but longwood wont fear them one bit

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 415 - 30/08/2018 13:40:17    2137658

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Looking forward to the games at the weekend.
Kiltale v Longwood should be a cracker. Hard to tell where both teams are. Longwood had it easy so far and haven't had anyone like kiltale to contend with. Kiltale could of revived there year against killyon but no one knows where killyon were that day. Kiltale by 4

Killyon v Trim. Trim are slowly building momentum with a few lads back relying on Douglas heavily still and I'm sure killyon have a plan for him. As for killyon depends which team come out. Looked unbeatable early in the year then fell apart and looked understrenght against Kiltale. Trim struggled in a very weak group and were lucky to be in that group. If killyon hit early form they could win at ease but it's not easy turn it on in big games. Il go killyon by 2

hurlinglad15 (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 31/08/2018 11:05:26    2137852

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Whats happening with the junior hurling. Its turning into a farce with teams purposely not fielding teams in order that they qualify for the weaker junior B competition. If a team cant field they should removed completely from the competition.

What was a good idea initially in the junior is now just being manipulated so teams can win the weaker competition.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 31/08/2018 12:28:31    2137877

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Yes. Athboy gave killyon a work over which leaves them in b championship semi. They would have bet killyon if they played them from what I've seen from both teams

JohnboyWalton (Meath) - Posts: 19 - 31/08/2018 13:20:26    2137899

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As most people know, numbers are tight at junior, so with Athboy missing numerous players due to electric picnic and work commitments they simply couldn't field, county board wudnt change fixture I believe,

Mac79 (Meath) - Posts: 4 - 31/08/2018 15:46:37    2137941

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