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Use Of The Free Hand In Hurling.

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Any thoughts on the use of the free hand in hurling when it is used in the tackle...

To me it's use is preventing the ball holding hand from being able to toss the ball on to the Hurley or to pass the ball. The result is that players are being pulled for over carrying...

It has become acceptable but perhaps the powers that be could have another look at it...

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1820 - 20/05/2018 21:49:54    2102433

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To harry and deny the ball holder space to operate, either getting a pass off or soloing the ball, obviously without grabbing hold of them or fouling. Not sure what point you're making Carlowman; perhaps I'm missing something. Is there context to your question?

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 20/05/2018 22:30:45    2102449

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Replying To carlowman:  "Any thoughts on the use of the free hand in hurling when it is used in the tackle...

To me it's use is preventing the ball holding hand from being able to toss the ball on to the Hurley or to pass the ball. The result is that players are being pulled for over carrying...

It has become acceptable but perhaps the powers that be could have another look at it..."
Can be hard to spot.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 20/05/2018 22:37:47    2102452

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Replying To carlowman:  "Any thoughts on the use of the free hand in hurling when it is used in the tackle...

To me it's use is preventing the ball holding hand from being able to toss the ball on to the Hurley or to pass the ball. The result is that players are being pulled for over carrying...

It has become acceptable but perhaps the powers that be could have another look at it..."
Yes I agree with you, but maybe the solution is for refs to be more alert to it and instead of giving a free for over carrying to give it the other way.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 20/05/2018 22:38:47    2102453

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Replying To festinog:  "To harry and deny the ball holder space to operate, either getting a pass off or soloing the ball, obviously without grabbing hold of them or fouling. Not sure what point you're making Carlowman; perhaps I'm missing something. Is there context to your question?"
My point festinog is that it has become acceptable it seems to me that the free hand is used by the defending player as a legitimate tool, to catch and hold and attempt to grab the ball out of the player in possession.

To me most of what is happening is fouling ... the player in possession is unable to play the ball by either hand passing or by being able to toss the ball on to the hurley to play it... he cannot get his hand free...

Instead the player in possession is often pulled for overcarrying by the referee eventhough he cannot legitimately play the ball. Its a change in how the game is being played, has become accepted practice and I don't believe that it is correct. That is where I am coming from!

I believe that Kilkenny were the first to use it by putting enormous pressure on the player in possession and nearly al other counties are now following suit.

Not so ling ago this would have been pulled up - but in best GAA tradition , it has become vogue. Time to look at it again in my opinion.

I am interested in what people think!

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1820 - 21/05/2018 17:45:40    2102745

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I agree with you 100% Carlowman. It's become a bedrock of tackling the man with the ball. It's illegal under current laws but it isn't being pulled up. However the man in possession has the option of a stick or handpass before the tackler gets on him. I'd say that the hand pass should be stopped completely and then go hard on the pulling of the arms.

PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 21/05/2018 18:04:38    2102750

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problem is player taking the ball into contact as well though.
no easy answer,and it is a nightmare for referees to spot.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 22/05/2018 09:07:09    2102889

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Replying To festinog:  "To harry and deny the ball holder space to operate, either getting a pass off or soloing the ball, obviously without grabbing hold of them or fouling. Not sure what point you're making Carlowman; perhaps I'm missing something. Is there context to your question?"
Bill Cooper was more or less congratulated on pulling at a mans arm as it prevented him from getting the handpass away.

That's a foul all day long and Willie Barrett and his team need to start blowing for it. Blocking, hooking and flicking the ball away are the skills to be used to rob a player of possession not a big forearm across him.

Cut out the overcarrying while you are at it..

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 22/05/2018 10:22:13    2102935

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