Replying To PedOGog:  "All the old arrogance still there, still thinking you're a top team when you have slipped right out of contention - even in Leinster. And the final irony I hope for - young Sludden of Tyrone to get more scores that the whole Meath team put together."

Replying To royaldunne:  "No worse than mod. Same results so far. But u were happy to give him 4 years. ? So ur problem is that mod was fired. Actually he left. And left a hell of a mess behind him. And u want to crucify the man trying to clean up that mess. Yeah I got ur logic now."

Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "Get off this forum, nobody is interested. That's all of my time you are going to get."

Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "Andy will be around next year too, hes not going anywhere. Players respect him & he respects them. Slowly he will get us there. Patience is what we need, no body can come in and wave a magic wand and all is perfect. He is doing a good job with what was handed over to him."

Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "Get off this forum, nobody is interested. That's all of my time you are going to get."

Replying To RoylerKing:  "Well Andy is doing a very poor job so far at cleaning up that 'mess'. Narrowly avoiding relegation to D3 and conceding 16 points against a mid table D3 team has resulted in zero progress so far, in fact we're going backwards as is also evident from the mass exodus of players from the panel in the last year.
We are blessed we are not playing Dublin in two weeks as the result would be genuinely scary."

Replying To Poormouth:  "How can you say he is doing a good job. Intensive training for the last six months to prepare for this game and produce that muck that we played on Sunday. I knew Longford would not be an easy game but the way we played and were set up is not the type of football anyone in this county wants to see."

Replying To Analyst:  "Ye were all happy to bullet MOD......i have said for past 4 years here that majority of Meath supporters live in the past and are deluded as to how poor foitball is in Meath. The issue with management here is the type of unwatchable garbage being played with players treated like robots. Would have no complaints if we gave it everything ti win a match. I wouldn't be surprised if the tactic for Tyrone is 18 men behind the ball and try and keep margin of defeat as low as we can...."

Replying To Ashrules:  "Looks like Meath will get over this Longfort loss long before Louth start recovering from 2010."

Replying To PedOGog:  "Do you own this forum or is it open to all of us? Undemocratic as well as arrogant!!"

Replying To grahamc9897:  "I have no problem keeping Andy in charge!! I'm just saying its been dreadful this year under him ! And the question needs to be asked... Is he good enough!! Because the results have been shocking ! You can ask 100 times about names If you want but the fact is until the job was free there is no point in throwing out random names ! It depends on avalibilty and interest levels !! That's for another day ,clearly he will finish out the year at the very least"

Replying To royaldunne:  "How are Louth getting on this year? Thanks for been so easy in last game of league to secure our division two status. We made you our b###h"

Replying To PedOGog:  "That remains to be seen. It might help if something was done about the massive imbalance towards Dublin in Money, Population, Home Venues, etc Could you not let have let Wicklow have their home game in Aughrim? Or is it win at all costs now with the Dubs, and by 20+ points if possible. And the new Dub President will surely not change anything in the direction of Justice. Soon you'll be winning Leinsters that nobody wants. Roll on 2030 and the Dubs going for their 20th Leinster in a row, The excitement of it all!"

Replying To PedOGog:  "We'll still be in this year's championship when Meath are out of it. Watch this space."

Replying To Furlong1949:  "The issue is there is no top class managers or coachs in the county with a proven sucessful winning record at a high standard. For some counties like Meath and Galway they dont produce many top managers. I dont think we nuture managers, We dont have sucession plans like other counties. Eg Dessie Farrell will probaly be the next Dublin manager, Jack O Connor wil probaly be the next Kerry manager. We should be identify young managers with talent and bring them in at underage like other counties do at minor and under 21 and not throw inexperienced managers like Mick O Dowd into the top job with no or little experience. Kerry or Mayo or Dublin or Kilkenny or Tipp or Galway hurlers wouldnt do it. We need to be giving managers with promise apprenticeships, learn their trade as manger with underage teams, being brought in as selectors at senior, not thrown into the top job and be learning on the job.

Look at us in Meath we dont produce many inter county managers. Outiside O Brien O Dowd and McEntee, name a Meath man who has managed an inter county team in this decade. I think Offaly had a Meath man a couple of years ago . And in the 00s Coyle managed Monaghan and Hayes Carlow. Meath Galway and Cork dont produce as many inter county managers as say Kerry Dublin Mayo or even kildare. Carew, Glen Ryan and luke Dempsey all kildare men have managed inter county teams in this decade outside kildare. Mayo always seem to have always have a good quality manager in charge eg O'Mahoney in 89, Maughan in 96 97, Horan in 2012 , 2013 and Rochford in 2016, 2017. In comparsion Galway have produced very few inter county managers of any decent standard. Who is the greatest Galway football manager ? Kevin Walsh, Liam Sammon, they have never had one.

Look at all the division 1 mangers at the moment and their possbile sucessors before they took job
Dublin Jim Galvin won 2 under 21 All ireland titles as Dublin manager
Mayo Stephen Rochford won All ireland club title with Corofin as manager
Kerry Fitzmuarice won All Ireland schools title and was kerry under 21 manager
Monaghan O Rourke was former Fermanagh manager and won club titles in two counties as manager
Donegal Bonner was a former senior Donegal manager and minor manager who led Donegal to their only minor All Ireland final ever
Galway Walsh was former sligo manager who got Sligo to Connacht final
Tyrone Mickey Harte won minor and under 21 All Ireland titles as manager
kildare O Neill was coach with All Ireland winning hurling Tipp team and coach with All Ireland winning kerry team

Look at teams that got promoted to div 2 McStay won as manager All ireland club title and managed Roscommon and Mayo teams at underage level, Cavan manager was highly rated coach with Tyrone , look at Tipp they have liam Kearins a proven inter county manager who did a great job with limerick in the 00s and was also laois manager. The longford manager yesterday, this was his 6thtime managing or involved with the longford senior teams.

Dessie Farrell will probaly be Dublin manager, O Connor kerry manager, and lohan Tyrone manger in the future. Farrell managed Dublin to under 21 and minor All Ireland titles, Lohan managed Tyrone to under 21 All Ireland titles. Jack O Connor has managed kerry teams to All Ireland schools, minor , under 21 and senior titles.

So thats what top teams do, they appoint managers who have eitheir inter county experience and sucess at underage or club level on the national level. The only top class manager we have produced in this decade with that sort of CV is McEntee. The possbile candidates for Meath job not only dont even have inter county experiene or sucess at that level or underage level but have no sucess at managing at club level and most of the names mentioned have very little managerial experience at even club level. Look at the managers the top teams have, look at the managers they will have in the future. They wouldnt be appointing an inexperienced club manager like we are talking about. We did already with O Dowd, And we all know how that turned. Maybe an unproven manager could turn us into sucess. Buts its really taking a massive gamble with an unproven manager. Its like what the Irish socccer team did when they appointed Steve Stauton. It is much better to appoint a manger with a proven track record then one with no record whatsoever . It would be taking a massive risk that other counties wouldnt.

if we go outside someone like Tony Mcentee with Carlow coach I think is an option but would they come. And there is s serious shortage of managers outside Meath not in work. The fact is we dont nurture young managers we dont have any top class managers or coachs in the county, yes we do have great football men, but that doesnt mean they can coach or manage in the modern way. We have had 7 managers in the last 12 years none of them have really suceeded in managing in the modern way.

And yes people are right. I have called on this forum at least 4 times, for McEntee to bring in a coach, possbily an Ulster coach. When we had Paul Grimley and John Evans as coachs I though it helped us. And the last time we had a good year, defeated kildare got within 3 points of the Dublin we had a top class coach John Evans aboard. Andy needs to bring in a coach. But there is probaly not many goods one out there. Carlow and Galway have good modern coachs. We need to see who else is available."

Replying To Furlong1949:  "The issue is there is no top class managers or coachs in the county with a proven sucessful winning record at a high standard. For some counties like Meath and Galway they dont produce many top managers. I dont think we nuture managers, We dont have sucession plans like other counties. Eg Dessie Farrell will probaly be the next Dublin manager, Jack O Connor wil probaly be the next Kerry manager. We should be identify young managers with talent and bring them in at underage like other counties do at minor and under 21 and not throw inexperienced managers like Mick O Dowd into the top job with no or little experience. Kerry or Mayo or Dublin or Kilkenny or Tipp or Galway hurlers wouldnt do it. We need to be giving managers with promise apprenticeships, learn their trade as manger with underage teams, being brought in as selectors at senior, not thrown into the top job and be learning on the job.

Look at us in Meath we dont produce many inter county managers. Outiside O Brien O Dowd and McEntee, name a Meath man who has managed an inter county team in this decade. I think Offaly had a Meath man a couple of years ago . And in the 00s Coyle managed Monaghan and Hayes Carlow. Meath Galway and Cork dont produce as many inter county managers as say Kerry Dublin Mayo or even kildare. Carew, Glen Ryan and luke Dempsey all kildare men have managed inter county teams in this decade outside kildare. Mayo always seem to have always have a good quality manager in charge eg O'Mahoney in 89, Maughan in 96 97, Horan in 2012 , 2013 and Rochford in 2016, 2017. In comparsion Galway have produced very few inter county managers of any decent standard. Who is the greatest Galway football manager ? Kevin Walsh, Liam Sammon, they have never had one.

Look at all the division 1 mangers at the moment and their possbile sucessors before they took job
Dublin Jim Galvin won 2 under 21 All ireland titles as Dublin manager
Mayo Stephen Rochford won All ireland club title with Corofin as manager
Kerry Fitzmuarice won All Ireland schools title and was kerry under 21 manager
Monaghan O Rourke was former Fermanagh manager and won club titles in two counties as manager
Donegal Bonner was a former senior Donegal manager and minor manager who led Donegal to their only minor All Ireland final ever
Galway Walsh was former sligo manager who got Sligo to Connacht final
Tyrone Mickey Harte won minor and under 21 All Ireland titles as manager
kildare O Neill was coach with All Ireland winning hurling Tipp team and coach with All Ireland winning kerry team

Look at teams that got promoted to div 2 McStay won as manager All ireland club title and managed Roscommon and Mayo teams at underage level, Cavan manager was highly rated coach with Tyrone , look at Tipp they have liam Kearins a proven inter county manager who did a great job with limerick in the 00s and was also laois manager. The longford manager yesterday, this was his 6thtime managing or involved with the longford senior teams.

Dessie Farrell will probaly be Dublin manager, O Connor kerry manager, and lohan Tyrone manger in the future. Farrell managed Dublin to under 21 and minor All Ireland titles, Lohan managed Tyrone to under 21 All Ireland titles. Jack O Connor has managed kerry teams to All Ireland schools, minor , under 21 and senior titles.

So thats what top teams do, they appoint managers who have eitheir inter county experience and sucess at underage or club level on the national level. The only top class manager we have produced in this decade with that sort of CV is McEntee. The possbile candidates for Meath job not only dont even have inter county experiene or sucess at that level or underage level but have no sucess at managing at club level and most of the names mentioned have very little managerial experience at even club level. Look at the managers the top teams have, look at the managers they will have in the future. They wouldnt be appointing an inexperienced club manager like we are talking about. We did already with O Dowd, And we all know how that turned. Maybe an unproven manager could turn us into sucess. Buts its really taking a massive gamble with an unproven manager. Its like what the Irish socccer team did when they appointed Steve Stauton. It is much better to appoint a manger with a proven track record then one with no record whatsoever . It would be taking a massive risk that other counties wouldnt.

if we go outside someone like Tony Mcentee with Carlow coach I think is an option but would they come. And there is s serious shortage of managers outside Meath not in work. The fact is we dont nurture young managers we dont have any top class managers or coachs in the county, yes we do have great football men, but that doesnt mean they can coach or manage in the modern way. We have had 7 managers in the last 12 years none of them have really suceeded in managing in the modern way.

And yes people are right. I have called on this forum at least 4 times, for McEntee to bring in a coach, possbily an Ulster coach. When we had Paul Grimley and John Evans as coachs I though it helped us. And the last time we had a good year, defeated kildare got within 3 points of the Dublin we had a top class coach John Evans aboard. Andy needs to bring in a coach. But there is probaly not many goods one out there. Carlow and Galway have good modern coachs. We need to see who else is available."

Replying To nobull456:  "Agreed ......... We need to invest in developing Managers rather than "taking a chance" on an inexperienced manager. I suggest the county board should show real leadership here by being pro active and installing this as a standard policy for present and future managers at intercounty level. Not rocket science to identify and establish the skill set required for modern day manager.. No manager will be made to measure for the job anyway ,so a willingness to accept this development is a condition of employment. Skills acquired during this development are easily transferable to ordinary life including employment so their is a gain there for the man who puts in massive hours at "training" his team. To extend this" education and development" theme to players may assist with retention levels. Sport involving good coaching is good quality education. Look at the many skills required to be part of a close knit group with a common objective .These very valuable skills that again are easily transferable for players to other .key areas of life in general.so a gain there for players also. I really do believe well coached sports players have an advantage . They need it explained to them properly of course of how these developed skills can benefit their employment prospects for example. It is sad to hear a recently departed player talk about a "waste of his time" unless silverware was achieved.
I hope Andy hangs in there and benefits from the county board being pro active by thinking outside the box with fresh modern day thinking where nobody is seen as wasting their time when given the massive honour of representing a county with a proud footballing tradition.We are not gone yet if we face reality by really INVESTING by development. Money is not the stumbling block it is often made out to be The real stumbling block is lack of vision at co. board level."

Replying To nobull456:  "Agreed ......... We need to invest in developing Managers rather than "taking a chance" on an inexperienced manager. I suggest the county board should show real leadership here by being pro active and installing this as a standard policy for present and future managers at intercounty level. Not rocket science to identify and establish the skill set required for modern day manager.. No manager will be made to measure for the job anyway ,so a willingness to accept this development is a condition of employment. Skills acquired during this development are easily transferable to ordinary life including employment so their is a gain there for the man who puts in massive hours at "training" his team. To extend this" education and development" theme to players may assist with retention levels. Sport involving good coaching is good quality education. Look at the many skills required to be part of a close knit group with a common objective .These very valuable skills that again are easily transferable for players to other .key areas of life in general.so a gain there for players also. I really do believe well coached sports players have an advantage . They need it explained to them properly of course of how these developed skills can benefit their employment prospects for example. It is sad to hear a recently departed player talk about a "waste of his time" unless silverware was achieved.
I hope Andy hangs in there and benefits from the county board being pro active by thinking outside the box with fresh modern day thinking where nobody is seen as wasting their time when given the massive honour of representing a county with a proud footballing tradition.We are not gone yet if we face reality by really INVESTING by development. Money is not the stumbling block it is often made out to be The real stumbling block is lack of vision at co. board level."

Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "I'm not one bit deluded. The lads...that's the mess he was handed down, a team of lads who couldn't catch their breath after 15 minutes, some overweight, no nutritional guidance, no self belief & zero confidence. What he has done for these lads mentally is not to be sneezed at.
Granted we are not seeing the great changes yet we hoped to have seen on the field by now but i believe he will get us there.
Just to state for an argument, this is my opinion."