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Make Every Game 30/35 Minutes

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I always find myself, particularly at underage level, trying to think "is this game 30 or 35 minutes". Why the difference, and why don't we just have 1 standard half length, be it 30 or 35 minutes. We don't need different length of games and everybody can play for 35 minutes per half in my view. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 09/05/2018 15:44:48 2097603 Link
No underage games are 35 mins. Only senior intercounty is 35 mins, almost everything else is 30 mins. Its really not that confusing 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 09/05/2018 16:37:19 2097621 Link
Replying To 890202: "No underage games are 35 mins. Only senior intercounty is 35 mins, almost everything else is 30 mins. Its really not that confusing" Ya only senior intercounty games are 35 mins but I'd agree, why not make them all 35 mins a half. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 09/05/2018 19:32:57 2097661 Link
Nevermind the length of games but what the GAA need to do is sort out the amount of injury time being allotted. gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 09/05/2018 19:49:50 2097664 Link
Replying To gaelicgab: "Nevermind the length of games but what the GAA need to do is sort out the amount of injury time being allotted." How would you do that? ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/05/2018 20:38:40 2097672 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "How would you do that?" Countdown clock like in ladies football, still be a problem at club level though leftandwide (Meath) - Posts: 91 - 09/05/2018 20:42:40 2097674 Link
Replying To leftandwide: "Countdown clock like in ladies football, still be a problem at club level though" The countdown clock is a disaster of an idea at all levels unless stopped correctly. It makes a farce of close games in ladies football (not that there are too many) but no one really cares because not that many people are interested 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 10/05/2018 00:08:15 2097732 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "How would you do that?" Easy. Stop the clock whenever there is a break in play. Take a leaf out of Rugby's book. Games are being overrun by break in plays now more than ever. Substitutions, injuries, goalkeepers taking kick outs or coming up the field to take frees etc. and generally not enough injury time is being allotted for all these type of stoppages. Referee shouldn't be keeping and deciding how much injury time will be played. I know they're meant to stop their watches for break in plays but there needs to be a better system in place. gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 10/05/2018 00:39:56 2097736 Link
Replying To 890202: "The countdown clock is a disaster of an idea at all levels unless stopped correctly. It makes a farce of close games in ladies football (not that there are too many) but no one really cares because not that many people are interested" Do you have any evidence or stats to back up your comment about not many ladies games been close? The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 10/05/2018 06:50:59 2097740 Link
Replying To leftandwide: "Countdown clock like in ladies football, still be a problem at club level though" Countdown clock makes for very cynical ends to games. When players know exactly how long is left they get very good at slowing the play down. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 10/05/2018 08:01:16 2097745 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Countdown clock makes for very cynical ends to games. When players know exactly how long is left they get very good at slowing the play down." Not really, sure Dublin killed the mens match last year, and good on them. Countdown clock or no countdown. I just see no sense to playing 30 minutes for 1 game, and 35 for another. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 10/05/2018 10:06:11 2097766 Link
Not really, sure Dublin killed the mens match last year, and good on them. Countdown clock or no countdown. I just see no sense to playing 30 minutes for 1 game, and 35 for another. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4006 - 10/05/2018 10:06:11 Disagree. Dublin (especially Kilkenny) made a massive error last year with the cynical delaying tactics and gave Mayo a huge advantage. Mayo had a kick out with a man advantage, plus the referee was able to use his judgement and give Mayo the time that Dublin tried to kill. Had the clock been in place, the hooter would have sounded as Rock kicked the winner and Mayo would not have been given their chance. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 10/05/2018 10:41:23 2097778 Link
My memory might not be 100%, I thought Dublin just ran down the clock and I thought it was the final. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 10/05/2018 11:30:50 2097794 Link
Easy. Stop the clock whenever there is a break in play. Take a leaf out of Rugby's book. Games are being overrun by break in plays now more than ever. Substitutions, injuries, goalkeepers taking kick outs or coming up the field to take frees etc. and generally not enough injury time is being allotted for all these type of stoppages. Referee shouldn't be keeping and deciding how much injury time will be played. I know they're meant to stop their watches for break in plays but there needs to be a better system in place. gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 601 - 10/05/2018 00:39:56 I dont think its needed and you dont need to stop clock for all breaks in play. And certainly not for subs coming on or a goalie coming up to take a free. how much injury time should be allocated for these things anyway? Refs should be timekeeping though at intercounty level there should be an additional time keeper micced up to the ref DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 10/05/2018 12:41:44 2097812 Link
Replying To gaelicgab: "Easy. Stop the clock whenever there is a break in play. Take a leaf out of Rugby's book. Games are being overrun by break in plays now more than ever. Substitutions, injuries, goalkeepers taking kick outs or coming up the field to take frees etc. and generally not enough injury time is being allotted for all these type of stoppages. Referee shouldn't be keeping and deciding how much injury time will be played. I know they're meant to stop their watches for break in plays but there needs to be a better system in place." Take a leaf out of rugbys book? Here is a rugby player taking a conversion at the end of a game and playing entirely within the rules though entirely outside the spirit of sport. link Id much rather a referee be allowed use their discretion to add on some time for such blatant time wasting than for that type of behaviour to become acceptable. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 10/05/2018 12:54:40 2097817 Link
Replying To Pinkie: "My memory might not be 100%, I thought Dublin just ran down the clock and I thought it was the final." Sorry probably didn't explain what I meant properly. Dublin did indeed run down the clock but because they didn't know how much time was left there was in inherent risk to it. Had a clock been in play then likely the hooter would've sounded as Rock's point went over, or if not Dublin's subsequent cynical play would have wasted another few seconds off the clock before the ref could've stopped the clock. As it happened, the ref was able to use his discretion and give Mayo the time to win the ball back from their own kick out and go up the field and equalise. Mayo didn't do that but that's beside the point. The ref was able to punish Dublin's cynical play and give Mayo a man advantage as well as the time to equalise. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 10/05/2018 14:09:54 2097840 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Sorry probably didn't explain what I meant properly. Dublin did indeed run down the clock but because they didn't know how much time was left there was in inherent risk to it. Had a clock been in play then likely the hooter would've sounded as Rock's point went over, or if not Dublin's subsequent cynical play would have wasted another few seconds off the clock before the ref could've stopped the clock. As it happened, the ref was able to use his discretion and give Mayo the time to win the ball back from their own kick out and go up the field and equalise. Mayo didn't do that but that's beside the point. The ref was able to punish Dublin's cynical play and give Mayo a man advantage as well as the time to equalise." Fair enough, but would they not have known? They seen 70 minutes on the big screen, 3-4 minutes added time or whatever? I could understand it for a match with no clock, but I would bet Dublin knew exactly what was left. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 10/05/2018 14:58:20 2097868 Link
Replying To Pinkie: "Fair enough, but would they not have known? They seen 70 minutes on the big screen, 3-4 minutes added time or whatever? I could understand it for a match with no clock, but I would bet Dublin knew exactly what was left." They couldn't have known how much time was left. There had been 6 minutes of injury time announced and the clock was already gone over 76 minutes by the time the kick out came. The ref kept playing because he felt all the allotted time had not been played so there was no way the Dublin players could've known how long was left. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 10/05/2018 15:20:28 2097876 Link
Replying To gaelicgab: "Easy. Stop the clock whenever there is a break in play. Take a leaf out of Rugby's book. Games are being overrun by break in plays now more than ever. Substitutions, injuries, goalkeepers taking kick outs or coming up the field to take frees etc. and generally not enough injury time is being allotted for all these type of stoppages. Referee shouldn't be keeping and deciding how much injury time will be played. I know they're meant to stop their watches for break in plays but there needs to be a better system in place." When a ref does that people complain that there's a crazy amount of time added on. You can't win. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 11/05/2018 12:26:19 2098530 Link