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Replying To the21yardline:  "Another hammering for this team last night. The County Board are lucky the search for a new senior manager will deflect from these results"
Louth 3-11 Westmeath 2-11, that is not a hammering by any standards. Sounds like a decent contest.

dbpcmi (Westmeath) - Posts: 30 - 29/06/2018 15:26:05    2116714

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A perfect 0 from 5 does not look good. Is it the under 17 rule?

wonit1time (Westmeath) - Posts: 430 - 04/07/2018 18:13:18    2118582

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Looking at minor and u16 groups. Do top two team now go straight to quater final in d 1 And bottom two go straight to quater final of d2 and knockout from there . Or are all the top 2s teams put into a group of 8 and league with these eight and top four in semi finals

madbull (Westmeath) - Posts: 186 - 17/07/2018 10:44:31    2123045

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Replying To madbull:  "Looking at minor and u16 groups. Do top two team now go straight to quater final in d 1 And bottom two go straight to quater final of d2 and knockout from there . Or are all the top 2s teams put into a group of 8 and league with these eight and top four in semi finals"
I'm not certain but I think it's the former. The knock out stages should be very competitive. Quite a lot of mis matches at the moment.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 220 - 17/07/2018 12:09:07    2123083

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Thats what I thought but someone told me differ. Seems like some lets say unusual results when you compare with league results and league position finishing

madbull (Westmeath) - Posts: 186 - 17/07/2018 13:51:40    2123135

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I cant understand why we go for this format of 2no D1+ 2no D2 teams per group for the group stages of the Championship,it is totally mismatched pitting a top D1 team vs a mid table D2 team or a team just promoted out of D3 is madness,going by the results a lot of the D2 teams are getting a hammering again this year, what good is that to either team? How is it good for D2 teams? they have to play 2no D1 teams and 1no D2 team where a D1 team has to play 2no D2 teams and 1 D1 team,its very hard for teams that may of had a good run in the league and then their Championship starts where they only have one competive match in the group, by the first week in August 8 teams in both divisions at U16/Minor will be knocked out end of season no more competitive football till Feb/Mar 2019

It is no wonder young players walk away from our sport so young
this in my opinion is why we don't see enough quality players coming through to our Senior County and Cub teams,

Westmeathgeal (Westmeath) - Posts: 27 - 17/07/2018 16:26:23    2123214

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Format is same as previous years - top 2 into D1 quarters and bottom 2 into D2 quarters.
Agree it is strange in that teams already got hammerings in the league and are mis-matched again.
The D1 winners will come from Athlone, Lomans, Maryland / Tang or The Downs.
Will be interesting to see who meets who at the knock out stages.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 580 - 18/07/2018 23:20:34    2123646

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What is going on with the Minor Finals and U16 Semi's ?? All left on hold so an U17 Championship (that the Clubs didnt want) can be ran off, Minor Finals wont be curtain raisers to Adult Finals going by the latest Adult fixtures, whats the betting that the D1+D2 Final wont be played in Cusack pk

Westmeathgeal (Westmeath) - Posts: 27 - 15/09/2018 16:53:26    2141885

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Minor hurling semi final up in air too no dates given and a big rush to get to this stage all the summer let go to waste back now clashing with school games and the weather about to turn

rogerdodger (Westmeath) - Posts: 219 - 15/09/2018 18:59:37    2141901

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Replying To rogerdodger:  "Minor hurling semi final up in air too no dates given and a big rush to get to this stage all the summer let go to waste back now clashing with school games and the weather about to turn"
The underage fixtures setup has improved, but only because clubs are threatened with fines.
A lot of clubs find it very difficult to field during the summer due to holidays.

There are enough weeks and weekends in the year to run off competitions

They manage to do it in Meath
Most young players in Westmeath don't get enough games.

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1532 - 15/09/2018 20:32:17    2141906

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Replying To valley84:  "The underage fixtures setup has improved, but only because clubs are threatened with fines.
A lot of clubs find it very difficult to field during the summer due to holidays.

There are enough weeks and weekends in the year to run off competitions

They manage to do it in Meath
Most young players in Westmeath don't get enough games."
U16/Minor players only get a mimimum of 4 games including 1 knockout during the summer thats not enough football to hold 14/15 yr olds at U16

Westmeathgeal (Westmeath) - Posts: 27 - 15/09/2018 21:16:36    2141914

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Replying To Westmeathgeal:  "U16/Minor players only get a mimimum of 4 games including 1 knockout during the summer thats not enough football to hold 14/15 yr olds at U16"
I would agree that there is not enough Championship football for the Under 16s/Minor and the ridiculous situation of having to 'qualify' for a Championship by playing off three games to decide quarter final spots is not acceptable.
The Leagues are defining as to a teams position and their strength. If a team is in divison 1 league and maintains thier position in Divison 1 then, that is where they belong for Championship, likewise with division 2 & 3. It used to be the situation where clubs were promoted/relegated in the league and that dictated the Championship groups. It is time to get back to that model because the new play off scenario pitting Div 1 teams against weaker Div 2 teams is simpply not working. Look at the results in some of the group stages, St Loman's defeated Tyrrellspass by 26 points..... Tyrrellspass defeated Multyfarnham by 25 points.... St Loman's defeated Multy by 12 points. Moate defeated Tyrrellspass by a single point and Multy defeated Moate by 11 points.
St Lomans from Div 1 league played aginst Two Div 2 teams and a team promoted from Div 3 in thier Championship group, what benefit was it to them to steamroll lesser teams? And what benefit to the other clubs?

Something has to change.....

tazz (Westmeath) - Posts: 44 - 17/09/2018 10:03:17    2142137

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Replying To tazz:  "I would agree that there is not enough Championship football for the Under 16s/Minor and the ridiculous situation of having to 'qualify' for a Championship by playing off three games to decide quarter final spots is not acceptable.
The Leagues are defining as to a teams position and their strength. If a team is in divison 1 league and maintains thier position in Divison 1 then, that is where they belong for Championship, likewise with division 2 & 3. It used to be the situation where clubs were promoted/relegated in the league and that dictated the Championship groups. It is time to get back to that model because the new play off scenario pitting Div 1 teams against weaker Div 2 teams is simpply not working. Look at the results in some of the group stages, St Loman's defeated Tyrrellspass by 26 points..... Tyrrellspass defeated Multyfarnham by 25 points.... St Loman's defeated Multy by 12 points. Moate defeated Tyrrellspass by a single point and Multy defeated Moate by 11 points.
St Lomans from Div 1 league played aginst Two Div 2 teams and a team promoted from Div 3 in thier Championship group, what benefit was it to them to steamroll lesser teams? And what benefit to the other clubs?

Something has to change....."
Right on the money Tazz, D1 team's get to play 2no D2 team's including possibly a newly promoted D3 team and 1no D1 team. Where as a D2 team plays 2no D1 team's and 1no D2 team, young lads finishing football in August and not playing again till the following April is wrong, schools football is gone very elite with limited panels and not providing competive football for the majority of Club players,


Definitely needs to be looked at !!

Westmeathgeal (Westmeath) - Posts: 27 - 17/09/2018 14:05:20    2142230

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