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Reduced percentage of TV coverage for 2018

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Association football is on the wane. Leadership figures are down all over the UK and Ireland. It's the developing countries that's pushing any growth. Kids are doing individual sports and hobbies. Teamsports are struggling so it's a tough job as a volunteer. I think we just have to start with the 3 and 4 year olds and try and keep them involved.
A genuine question to the Down and Belfast posters. Is there room for a protestant/unionist GAA club in Belfast free from any nationalist interference and focused just on the games.?

PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 21/04/2018 13:52:58    2094212

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Tyrone v Monaghan, probably the tie of the first round in all provinces across both codes, third vs fourth in Divsion one will not be shown on TV. Honestly you couldn't make this up. This game was going to sell out before any clown says just go to the game. What the hell is the GAA at? Games like this should be on the TV. All the people that can't go, the young kids who get hooked on the game after watching a game like this. Honestly I don't know what the hell is going through their heads in HQ.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 25/04/2018 14:26:35    2094964

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Replying To PeggyShippen:  "Association football is on the wane. Leadership figures are down all over the UK and Ireland. It's the developing countries that's pushing any growth. Kids are doing individual sports and hobbies. Teamsports are struggling so it's a tough job as a volunteer. I think we just have to start with the 3 and 4 year olds and try and keep them involved.
A genuine question to the Down and Belfast posters. Is there room for a protestant/unionist GAA club in Belfast free from any nationalist interference and focused just on the games.?"
Sure come on up and start one, id say you're the very man

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 25/04/2018 15:52:25    2094984

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Tyrone v Monaghan, probably the tie of the first round in all provinces across both codes, third vs fourth in Divsion one will not be shown on TV. Honestly you couldn't make this up. This game was going to sell out before any clown says just go to the game. What the hell is the GAA at? Games like this should be on the TV. All the people that can't go, the young kids who get hooked on the game after watching a game like this. Honestly I don't know what the hell is going through their heads in HQ."
This is getting worrying. Another thing I agree with you on. :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2018 16:06:10    2094987

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Tyrone v Monaghan, probably the tie of the first round in all provinces across both codes, third vs fourth in Divsion one will not be shown on TV. Honestly you couldn't make this up. This game was going to sell out before any clown says just go to the game. What the hell is the GAA at? Games like this should be on the TV. All the people that can't go, the young kids who get hooked on the game after watching a game like this. Honestly I don't know what the hell is going through their heads in HQ."
This is an inevitable consequence of shortening the season, more big games will be played on the same day and so fewer can be televised. Instead of the Tyrone v Monaghan game being shown I think it will be Mayo v Galway and a Leinster hurling game shown that day which is fair enough. It just means it's vital RTE have decent highlight programmes on. I see a Monaghan man is the new head of sport at RTE so hopefully he will understand the importance of the national games and GAA coverage will begin to improve.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 25/04/2018 16:40:29    2094989

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Replying To Soma:  "This is an inevitable consequence of shortening the season, more big games will be played on the same day and so fewer can be televised. Instead of the Tyrone v Monaghan game being shown I think it will be Mayo v Galway and a Leinster hurling game shown that day which is fair enough. It just means it's vital RTE have decent highlight programmes on. I see a Monaghan man is the new head of sport at RTE so hopefully he will understand the importance of the national games and GAA coverage will begin to improve."
The Mayo / Galway game is on a different date than Tyrone / Monaghan to be there is no excuse on this as its the only football game on this date.
There our 2 Munster hurling games and 2 Leinster hurling games so show the big game off the day in Hurling and the Football game as its being pointed out these would be 2 of the top 6 sides in the country #jokeRTE

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 704 - 25/04/2018 17:19:48    2094995

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Anyone have a notion of when the TV schedule will be made public.

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 25/04/2018 19:27:06    2095004

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Replying To keithlemon:  "If you break down the numbers of RTE's coverage alone of 31 between 2 codes:
Thats 2 All Ireland finals
4 semi finals
at least 8 quarter finals (if the assumption is that each quarter final in each code is shown)
6 provincial finals (4 football, 2 hurling)

That still leaves 11 games across the summer and not including the games that Sky will be showing, so that leaves a total of 25 games being covered before we get to the business end of the championships

Considering the early provincial matches in football are walkovers in Munster and Leinster, how many games do people expect to be covered on a broadcaster that is not a dedicated sports network?"
Sorry the early games in Leinster are far from walk overs. Excluding any game which involves the blue juggernaut, the games in Leinster are ultra competitive and vast majority of counties could beat the other. Btw dubs would walk any other provinces either (see Tyrone last year) as prime example.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2018 19:41:19    2095005

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "Anyone have a notion of when the TV schedule will be made public."
Probably first week in may. I am interested to know myself

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2018 20:22:57    2095011

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Replying To Yourjoking:  "The Mayo / Galway game is on a different date than Tyrone / Monaghan to be there is no excuse on this as its the only football game on this date.
There our 2 Munster hurling games and 2 Leinster hurling games so show the big game off the day in Hurling and the Football game as its being pointed out these would be 2 of the top 6 sides in the country #jokeRTE"
So you are blaming cash strapped RTE (which was the subject of an independent report this week advising that they be divested of the National Symphony Orchestra since the 24% decrease in revenue RTE have experienced since 2008 means it is unsustainable that it remains with them) for a situation where they had an agreed deal with the GAA to broadcast a certain number of matches based on the old championship format, then mid-deal the GAA unilaterally change the format and increase the number of matches being played in the competition. And you want them to dig deeper and come up with more money to broadcast the extra games -- and this in a year when the national broadcaster also has a World Cup to cover?

Yeah that's very logical alright. You may as well blame the wind or the rain or the government or Brexit for this situation which the GAA have brought about themselves!!!

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 26/04/2018 02:43:44    2095036

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I am going to the match myself and looking forward to it but it beggers belief Tyrone v Monaghan will not be covered live on TV. I would also have had Donegal v Cavan covered the first week. Both these games feature teams in next years Division One and are hard to call. Crazy.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 26/04/2018 08:18:22    2095040

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What matches are BBC/ UTV showing? Serious question

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 26/04/2018 09:33:49    2095043

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Replying To lillyboy:  "What matches are BBC/ UTV showing? Serious question"
UTV have no rights. BBC are only entitled to show USFC games that RTE show live and deferred coverage of the others.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 26/04/2018 10:20:23    2095050

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "So you are blaming cash strapped RTE (which was the subject of an independent report this week advising that they be divested of the National Symphony Orchestra since the 24% decrease in revenue RTE have experienced since 2008 means it is unsustainable that it remains with them) for a situation where they had an agreed deal with the GAA to broadcast a certain number of matches based on the old championship format, then mid-deal the GAA unilaterally change the format and increase the number of matches being played in the competition. And you want them to dig deeper and come up with more money to broadcast the extra games -- and this in a year when the national broadcaster also has a World Cup to cover?

Yeah that's very logical alright. You may as well blame the wind or the rain or the government or Brexit for this situation which the GAA have brought about themselves!!!"
This has nothing to do with them showing less games etc it's to do with them picking the wrong games to show.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 26/04/2018 10:41:32    2095052

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Replying To gotmilk:  "This has nothing to do with them showing less games etc it's to do with them picking the wrong games to show."
Your idea of the wrong games is another person's idea of the right games. RTE have a contract to broadcast X number of games based on the old championship format. Since there are extra high profile games being played under the new system, inevitably some games that previously would have been broadcast will not now be broadcast.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 26/04/2018 13:59:54    2095089

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Replying To gotmilk:  "UTV have no rights. BBC are only entitled to show USFC games that RTE show live and deferred coverage of the others."
Read an article recently, that BBC may only show Ulster semis & final,due to difficulties in their negotiations with RTE!..... hope this is nit true!

Monaghan Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 442 - 26/04/2018 14:25:34    2095098

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Your idea of the wrong games is another person's idea of the right games. RTE have a contract to broadcast X number of games based on the old championship format. Since there are extra high profile games being played under the new system, inevitably some games that previously would have been broadcast will not now be broadcast."
But if they are showing games on the day that this one is on then i'm sure most people would agree that it's the wrong game. Would sky every let Liverpool v United be played on a saturday afternoon and not show the game so they can show Swansea v Watford?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 26/04/2018 14:29:21    2095099

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Failry succinct coverage here;

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/bbc-ni-to-lose-most-of-their-ulster-championship-games-1.3471757?mode=amp

TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 193 - 26/04/2018 16:40:25    2095125

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