(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post
I think that if Tyrone are allowed to express themselves like they did towards the end of the league then they will win easy enough. lambofgod (Mayo) - Posts: 116 - 16/04/2018 13:52:13 2093281 Link 0 |
will be a tight game with the winner by less than three points and decided by who takes their long range scores better detruth (Monaghan) - Posts: 196 - 16/04/2018 14:01:01 2093288 Link 1 |
Huge game for us. Tyrone seem to always be our benchmark and apart from 14 usually have had our measure. They are in top 4 teams we are back in 5th or 6th and really need to beat them to stake our claims to get to next level.Both the players and the supporters know this.Their best line the pacey half backs really come into their own when they get a lead on teams and can attack from deep. If Tyrone get a 3 or 4 pt lead during first half game is over as they are masters at defending on mass and shutting teams out. They got suckered punched by the Dubs last year with early goal panicked and never recovered. Hopefully K Hughes starts at full forward and we really go at them as if we sit back and start all cagey we are toast. Both teams employ similar set ups but their interplay is faster and more effective although we have a stronger forward line. Will need huge games from likes of McCarthy and McCarron as McManus will be well occupied from open play. They have the talent but this type of match will need them to step up and play with strong character as will be a cauldron. Discipline crucial also as we will need 15 players for the 70 to win this and avoid giving away silly frees especially with Brennan now established free taker. We had a good league but Tyrone caught the eye towards the end with wins over Mayo and Kerry and have to be strong favourites given they walked Ulster and we were fairly disappointing last year. There's a win in us in Omagh no doubt but it would have to be a nail bitter with a lot of stuff going right. Heart says us but head reckons Tyrone will establish early lead and we will just fall short in finish up. seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1790 - 16/04/2018 14:07:02 2093289 Link 0 |
To have any hope, I think Monaghan need to seriously address disipline issues. If Tyrone can goad a few Monaghan defenders into commiting yellow or black card offences early, it's a slippery slope. The reverse, of course, holds true but it's certainly something that was a feature of the early league matches this year for Monaghan and something that needs to be eradicated. TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 191 - 16/04/2018 15:50:12 2093327 Link 0 |
My point being Tyrone got stronger as the league went on but where still imo nowhere near there best. Monaghan had a great league including beating a Dublin team looking at the league final. I am not sure Monaghan will improve much from what we have seen. Tyrone on the other hand seem to be targeting this game and we will see Tyrone at full tilt. Monaghan are a very impressive team!! I just think they lack pace in key areas and will concentrate on direct football which will be good to watch!! If Tyrone can win a high number of turnovers in their own defence; this will set them up to attack from deep with pace and numbers. To win this game Monaghan need to ensure the balls into McManus and other forwards are accurate! However I think Tyrone will turn over at least 50pc of Monaghan's attacks and will outdo Monaghan with there pace and power. It will be a cracking game and I think the winner of this wins Ulster!
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 16/04/2018 19:16:00 2093374 Link 0 |
Very accurate assessment and possibly will turn out that way
prideof85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 851 - 16/04/2018 20:47:49 2093397 Link 0 |
Fair enough Sam and I do think Tyrone will improve too but I just don't see them as contenders for the big prize at all. They have not shown enough to tell me they could deal with a Dublin team in the latter stages...They almost gave a mirror image performance against them last year in the semis to ours in the quarters. I think the gap in championship terms between them and Dublin, Mayo and Kerry is wider than it is between us and them. Monaghan did not play a full strength side until the last game of the league so I expect there is a bit to go there too... seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 16/04/2018 21:47:33 2093415 Link 0 |
Big admirer of Monaghan. Would have to fancy Tyrone at home but should be a proper match, As a neutral Id like to see Monaghan get a big win in croke park this year something they Badly need. Always felt the big three Dubs,Mayo and Kerry are not at full pelt by a long way in league whereas Monaghan are and maybe It leaves them spent going deep into summer. salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 16/04/2018 23:18:52 2093429 Link 0 |
Fermanagh play the ugliest brand of football in Ulster and Armagh will expose ur defensive nonsense. Armagh v Tyrone semi final should be tasty
fatkeeper (Dublin) - Posts: 316 - 17/04/2018 00:05:15 2093433 Link 0 |
How many Fermanagh games have you seen from Dublin? Lol
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 17/04/2018 10:42:53 2093467 Link 0 |
Whilst I think Tyrone will beat Monaghan; I'd agree with you regarding the All Ireland. Kerry are a media team that will be exposed again in Croke Park, Tyrone would beat Kerry comfortably. However when all teams are at peak fitness Dublin and Mayo are still out in front, and Tyrone will beat neither of these teams. Don't worry too much about Kerry, I would fancy Monaghan to turn Kerry this year tbh, the reason they are mentioned is due to history but they are a very average team and certainly not in the top 3!! They would struggle to make the super 8 if they had the draw Monaghan or Galway/Mayo got.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 17/04/2018 11:59:08 2093487 Link 0 |
What's the predicted starting 15s? Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12103 - 17/04/2018 12:04:49 2093489 Link 1 |
Well again championship form would say different on Kerry... They took Mayo to a draw last year in the semi final before losing out by 5 points. The have serious attacking threat in Geaney, O'Donoghue and now young Clifford (it might be a bit soon). Of course they are media favourites but thats not unfounded, they have been there or thereabouts for the last 5 years (appearing at SF stage each year, winning in sam in 2014). Tyrone havent looked a threat in the same way for years. seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 17/04/2018 13:05:34 2093522 Link 0 |
Mayo went into that semi final after a number of intense games and Kerry were very fresh. When Kerry were not quite as fresh in the reply; Mayo won easily enough. The system dicates that Kerry will come into the super 8 fresh so of course they will be dangerous. 2014 was four years ago; a lifetime in Championship football, they have been competitive here and there since but in reality have not looked like winning the All Ireland. Tyrone have been building and are getting close, if they were to play Kerry in a big Championship game this season; I would fancy Tyrone to come out on top. As I said though Dublin and a fully fit Mayo team are two great sides and the winners will come from these two. My top 3 are Tyrone, Mayo and Dublin. If Galway and Monaghan can stay fresh after a great league, I would put these two 4th and 5th. The worry I have for Monaghan and Galway is they will likely face four intense games after first round defeats which is unfair in many ways.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 17/04/2018 13:54:25 2093549 Link 0 |
Monaghan didn't start with full strength side in last game of league !
Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 17/04/2018 21:54:49 2093675 Link 0 |
I never side we started one Shel, but what I would consider our best 15 did take the field that day (some from the Bench)
seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 17/04/2018 22:42:06 2093684 Link 0 |
Can only see a Tyrone win here after looking at what might be the starting line ups I just can't see the Farney getting out of this one alive ...Home advantage will be massive and Tyrone people are very confident as always! BigJohn.6_8 (Galway) - Posts: 704 - 18/04/2018 11:46:22 2093761 Link 0 |
It'll be a tight hard hitting affair. I'd just have to side with Tyrone though. They seem to have the edge in championship football over Monaghan. That being said, a Monaghan win wouldn't be a shock either. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9073 - 18/04/2018 13:55:39 2093792 Link 0 |
Good to see the Galway people putting there opinion forward after one good league run. I think Galway's summer could be short. Poor discipline and when Dublin defenders got back quickly to mark your forwards they disappeared out of the league final.
mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 19/04/2018 18:48:29 2094011 Link 0 |
You should have said that in the first place !
Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 19/04/2018 23:58:03 2094053 Link 0 |