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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Seriously I'm not sure if you're remembering incorrectly or just making stuff up but none of what you say happened. I remember being to games that we lost throughout the years and we deserved to lose them. Whether it was against Dunsany in the JFC when we couldn't hit a barn door, Kells in the IFC when Brian Hanlon tore us to shreds or Ballinabrackey the following when we played against 14 men for the majority of the game but still managed to lose. So please stop spreading false information and not expecting to be called up on it.
When we won the JFC, by the way, most of our main players these days were still teenagers. Hardly chokers.

And I'm not sure if you left out a word in your first sentence but Ratoath didn't lose anything last night."
'Lead' will be what he's missed there. Anyway carry on, I've missed this :-)

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 08/04/2018 03:47:53    2091603

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Seriously I'm not sure if you're remembering incorrectly or just making stuff up but none of what you say happened. I remember being to games that we lost throughout the years and we deserved to lose them. Whether it was against Dunsany in the JFC when we couldn't hit a barn door, Kells in the IFC when Brian Hanlon tore us to shreds or Ballinabrackey the following when we played against 14 men for the majority of the game but still managed to lose. So please stop spreading false information and not expecting to be called up on it.
When we won the JFC, by the way, most of our main players these days were still teenagers. Hardly chokers.

And I'm not sure if you left out a word in your first sentence but Ratoath didn't lose anything last night."
The did lose something last night. A huge lead. I'm gonna take a wild guess that this was the word he left out.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 869 - 08/04/2018 08:17:19    2091609

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Everyone labeling Ratoath as chokers and because they let a big lead slip they won't win anything. Why is it then people still give Dunboyne a good chance of winning Keegan after letting big leads against Simonstown slip twice in the last two years?

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 08/04/2018 08:37:30    2091610

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Ratoath were a junior club in 2012,i,m.o they are a fantastic club and are going in the right direction and will be still in the hunt in September.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1047 - 08/04/2018 09:41:11    2091616

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Replying To Barney123:  "Everyone labeling Ratoath as chokers and because they let a big lead slip they won't win anything. Why is it then people still give Dunboyne a good chance of winning Keegan after letting big leads against Simonstown slip twice in the last two years?"
Two years ago Dunboyne only led the game once, that was by a point with about 5 minutes to go

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 229 - 08/04/2018 10:02:14    2091617

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Were there any other games played apart from the Ratoath Pats game? the anti Ratoath slant of many on here is baffling, they drew a game missing a couple of their big players, plus not forget that they had their squad together for 6 days to prepare, Pats have been getting ready for this game since draw was made.

A lot of tight games so far, any stand out performers?

longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 08/04/2018 10:11:14    2091618

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Lads , just in relation to St Pats they are a tough seasoned team with youth starting to come into their ranks in the form of Padraig Nulty & Johnnie Woods. Each year they are capable of taking a big scalps at this level , so let's give them recognition, Ratoath in my mind have maybe being overhyped here on this form , 2 year ago they could have made semi final running Summerhill very close in group stage, obviously they will learn for this experience and kick on. Championship really kicks off today to see what the champions are made of.

cilles man (Meath) - Posts: 142 - 08/04/2018 10:55:47    2091622

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Made it to three games so far this weekend, the pitches have been in very good nick and the football has been quite enjoyable.

Ratoath vs Pats - I thought this would have been a close game to start and Ratoath to pull away in the second half but it was the opposite. Ratoath were without two of their main forwards (Wallace and O Brien) before the game started, then losing Joey left McMahon as the focal point of their attack.
In the first half Pats were very defensive and when they did get the ball into a scoring zone they were either afraid to shoot or were trying to give it to someone who could shoot. The second half they took a lot more risks and were rewarded.
I've seen Ratoath a lot in the last 4 years and the one thing they lack is leaders, guys who will take the game by the scruff of the neck when things aren't going well. They do have some like McGill, Cian O Brien, Bobby O Brien and Joey Wallace but they need others if they are going to win a championship.

Don/Ash vs Seneschalstown - It's hard to tell were both teams are at after yesterday, Seneschalstown were missing a couple of players but played out of their skin at times while Ashbourne had a full deck to choose from and struggled to get over the line. Ashbourne I think just got their team wrong, Tormey was fantastic when introduced at half time, he really steadied the ship for them. Menton looked lost out there until he went to midfield. Good team preformance by Seneschalstown hopefully when Brian and Damien are back they can kick on.

Skryne vs Curraha - One way traffic from start to finish barring the first 10 minutes of the second half when the 'ha' came out fighting. Rooney caught some ball in the first half but was anonymous in the second. Eoin Smyth was excellent at wing back throughout and cause Curraha a fair few problem while Donie Ryan looks like a very good centre back. O Rourke only came into the game when it was over as a contest don't think he would be any addition to the county panel out the field from what I seen. James McEntee was good in patches, kicked a great score with his left and fielded some lovely ball.

Over all most lads on the county panel need to step up, some looked very average. Good performances by lads not on the panel like McQuillan and Melia who have been very consistent the last few years.

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 354 - 08/04/2018 12:22:32    2091628

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A lot of one sided games. No intensity in groups with matches played at pedestrian pace. Be August before it gets any way interesting

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 08/04/2018 17:33:08    2091671

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Replying To Analyst:  "A lot of one sided games. No intensity in groups with matches played at pedestrian pace. Be August before it gets any way interesting"
The current system leads to pedestrian like games. Unfortunately this leads onto senior county team. The championship set up is beyond ridiculous. But clubs won't vote to change it.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/04/2018 18:15:17    2091679

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Very disappointing spectacle in Clonard tonight between Trim and Ballinabrackey. Poor showing by the town side to only score five times.

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 08/04/2018 20:55:30    2091712

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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "Made it to three games so far this weekend, the pitches have been in very good nick and the football has been quite enjoyable.

Ratoath vs Pats - I thought this would have been a close game to start and Ratoath to pull away in the second half but it was the opposite. Ratoath were without two of their main forwards (Wallace and O Brien) before the game started, then losing Joey left McMahon as the focal point of their attack.
In the first half Pats were very defensive and when they did get the ball into a scoring zone they were either afraid to shoot or were trying to give it to someone who could shoot. The second half they took a lot more risks and were rewarded.
I've seen Ratoath a lot in the last 4 years and the one thing they lack is leaders, guys who will take the game by the scruff of the neck when things aren't going well. They do have some like McGill, Cian O Brien, Bobby O Brien and Joey Wallace but they need others if they are going to win a championship.

Don/Ash vs Seneschalstown - It's hard to tell were both teams are at after yesterday, Seneschalstown were missing a couple of players but played out of their skin at times while Ashbourne had a full deck to choose from and struggled to get over the line. Ashbourne I think just got their team wrong, Tormey was fantastic when introduced at half time, he really steadied the ship for them. Menton looked lost out there until he went to midfield. Good team preformance by Seneschalstown hopefully when Brian and Damien are back they can kick on.

Skryne vs Curraha - One way traffic from start to finish barring the first 10 minutes of the second half when the 'ha' came out fighting. Rooney caught some ball in the first half but was anonymous in the second. Eoin Smyth was excellent at wing back throughout and cause Curraha a fair few problem while Donie Ryan looks like a very good centre back. O Rourke only came into the game when it was over as a contest don't think he would be any addition to the county panel out the field from what I seen. James McEntee was good in patches, kicked a great score with his left and fielded some lovely ball.

Over all most lads on the county panel need to step up, some looked very average. Good performances by lads not on the panel like McQuillan and Melia who have been very consistent the last few years."
menton played the whole game at midfield

Are you sure you were at that game,

Sean Curran also didnt play for Ashbourne so not at the full deck,

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dnewlad (Meath) - Posts: 137 - 08/04/2018 22:15:25    2091730

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Replying To dnewlad:  "menton played the whole game at midfield

Are you sure you were at that game,

Sean Curran also didnt play for Ashbourne so not at the full deck,

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Bobby O'Brien is in Australia - joey Wallace went off injured after 15 mins - Cian O Brien cane on for his first game in a year!

Menton played the whole game in mid field!

Ha found first game at senior tough going but will be better for it!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 473 - 08/04/2018 23:32:37    2091745

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Replying To dnewlad:  "menton played the whole game at midfield

Are you sure you were at that game,

Sean Curran also didnt play for Ashbourne so not at the full deck,

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So he missed out on one player being available! Count yourself lucky most clubs are missing 4 or 5 for this round. Fact is ashbourne scraped by a team languishing near the bottom of division 2 who were missing key players quite unimpressive from the 2016 finalists

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 08/04/2018 23:46:30    2091746

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Got to 4 games over the weekend, have to say was most impressed by Longwood, didn't see that result coming at all, the played a nice brand of tough football, even though they got a goal and a point late on, the should have had game wrapped up, kicked a few bad wides, the 2 Healys very good, Mickey Burke excellent.. Dunderry quite defensive and could not get Stephen Coogan on the ball enough, Jennings black card was a key moment, what was ref at not makijng him go off before pen,

Simonstown full forward line caused havoc...Tobin best player on the pitch, they really struggled in the middle of the field, Shane O'rourke will be a massive loss to them, Dunshaughlin quite poor


Syddan beat a poor enough Drumbaragh team, the let them back into a game that they should have won easily, Sean Clare outstanding in the middle of the field, Willy Carry was best for the Drums

Skryne kept the league firm going, Donie Ryan was excellent, going to be a struggle for Curraha, never really in the game, James Mcentee probably the pick for them

lots of big winning margins which is no good...

longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 09/04/2018 00:15:31    2091751

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Saw Pats V Ratoath. Pats awful first half and in 2nd half we're still only pedestrian and still got draw. Ratoath shocking at the back.

Saw Ashbourne V Senechalstown . Ashbourne missed a bundle in first half whilst I throught Senechalstown played rightly and seemed to have improved. Ashbourne won't be winning senior championship.

Saw Moynalvey V Wolfe Tones. Lot to like about Tones forward unit. However Moynalvey were dire throughout. Hard to gauge Wolfe Tones give opposition offered nothing

Saw St Colmcilles V Rathkenny. I tell ye Rathkenny are a decent team but in the 2nd half St Colmcilles dismantled them with some nice football. Wolfe Tones V Cilles in next round will be interesting tie. Cilles don't look 50/1 shots on what I saw.

Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 09/04/2018 00:39:40    2091752

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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "Made it to three games so far this weekend, the pitches have been in very good nick and the football has been quite enjoyable.

Ratoath vs Pats - I thought this would have been a close game to start and Ratoath to pull away in the second half but it was the opposite. Ratoath were without two of their main forwards (Wallace and O Brien) before the game started, then losing Joey left McMahon as the focal point of their attack.
In the first half Pats were very defensive and when they did get the ball into a scoring zone they were either afraid to shoot or were trying to give it to someone who could shoot. The second half they took a lot more risks and were rewarded.
I've seen Ratoath a lot in the last 4 years and the one thing they lack is leaders, guys who will take the game by the scruff of the neck when things aren't going well. They do have some like McGill, Cian O Brien, Bobby O Brien and Joey Wallace but they need others if they are going to win a championship.

Don/Ash vs Seneschalstown - It's hard to tell were both teams are at after yesterday, Seneschalstown were missing a couple of players but played out of their skin at times while Ashbourne had a full deck to choose from and struggled to get over the line. Ashbourne I think just got their team wrong, Tormey was fantastic when introduced at half time, he really steadied the ship for them. Menton looked lost out there until he went to midfield. Good team preformance by Seneschalstown hopefully when Brian and Damien are back they can kick on.

Skryne vs Curraha - One way traffic from start to finish barring the first 10 minutes of the second half when the 'ha' came out fighting. Rooney caught some ball in the first half but was anonymous in the second. Eoin Smyth was excellent at wing back throughout and cause Curraha a fair few problem while Donie Ryan looks like a very good centre back. O Rourke only came into the game when it was over as a contest don't think he would be any addition to the county panel out the field from what I seen. James McEntee was good in patches, kicked a great score with his left and fielded some lovely ball.

Over all most lads on the county panel need to step up, some looked very average. Good performances by lads not on the panel like McQuillan and Melia who have been very consistent the last few years."
Good summary. I was also at the Ratoath vs Pats and Skryne vs Curraha games as well as Dunboyne Vs Blackhall. I wouldn't argue with much of your summary of both games.

Blackhall did well enough to scrap and keep it respectable against a superior Dunboyne team. I thought Blackhall would definitely go down but after today I think they should be OK. Dunboyne always seem to be mentally fragile when it really counts, too many blowins? Maybe similar to Ratoaths lack of leadership? Rotoath had it in the bag but switched off.

The county team, unfortunately, has many of the same issues. Lots of players from both teams on the panel.

pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 189 - 09/04/2018 02:41:41    2091757

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The referee committee have a major problem on der hands
I was at 1 championship match this weekend and the ref turned up with no umpires or linesman
3 from each club had to do the jobs
A disgrace actually for championship
Another championship game I went to look at there was enuf grass on the pitch to sort out the fodder crisis for the farmers in county Meath
A joke

Awhweff (Meath) - Posts: 10 - 09/04/2018 08:44:21    2091771

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Saw Pats V Ratoath. Pats awful first half and in 2nd half we're still only pedestrian and still got draw. Ratoath shocking at the back.

Saw Ashbourne V Senechalstown . Ashbourne missed a bundle in first half whilst I throught Senechalstown played rightly and seemed to have improved. Ashbourne won't be winning senior championship.

Saw Moynalvey V Wolfe Tones. Lot to like about Tones forward unit. However Moynalvey were dire throughout. Hard to gauge Wolfe Tones give opposition offered nothing

Saw St Colmcilles V Rathkenny. I tell ye Rathkenny are a decent team but in the 2nd half St Colmcilles dismantled them with some nice football. Wolfe Tones V Cilles in next round will be interesting tie. Cilles don't look 50/1 shots on what I saw."
Went to the Kells - Summehill game . Kells very impressive with serious speed and will to win every tackle etc. It will take
a serious team to beat them and f they keep playing like that should be contenders for the Keegan. Summerhlll off the pace yesterday, Good in patches but I think they should improve on next outing and win their next game. NOM looked sharp with S Bray conducting rhe orchestra at will. they too could be in the shake up as it could be a lot of their players last year and will really go for it . Na Fianna looked poor yesterday and are too young & light this year . They looked leaderless from the sideline and will be fighting relegation .

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 09/04/2018 10:13:36    2091788

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Replying To Bear10:  "Went to the Kells - Summehill game . Kells very impressive with serious speed and will to win every tackle etc. It will take
a serious team to beat them and f they keep playing like that should be contenders for the Keegan. Summerhlll off the pace yesterday, Good in patches but I think they should improve on next outing and win their next game. NOM looked sharp with S Bray conducting rhe orchestra at will. they too could be in the shake up as it could be a lot of their players last year and will really go for it . Na Fianna looked poor yesterday and are too young & light this year . They looked leaderless from the sideline and will be fighting relegation ."
Early days yet but I will agree with your sentiments on the two East Meath neighbours Summerhill and Na Fianna. Summerhill are like a racehorse - they will get better as the ground hardens up! Lots of young talented players coming through the ranks which Kells are a bit further than the road with. Na Fianna have nice young forwards like Shane Walsh who is an exciting prospect for Meath - he didn't play yesterday. Players like Ollie Lewis, Dolly McDonagh, Dean Henrick and the two older Queeney brothers aren't easily replaced. I know Jamie is out injured but still they will struggle for the next couple of years.

Toney (Meath) - Posts: 298 - 09/04/2018 14:11:29    2091847

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