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So any idea will counties be compensated in some way or other due to lost monies gate receipts for non fixtures in Div 4. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 26/03/2018 18:27:22 2088420 Link 2 |
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I stumped up the 105 quid to cover Antrim's losses Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 26/03/2018 20:28:01 2088468 Link 5 |
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Thousands? You havent been to a division 4 game in a while. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 26/03/2018 20:59:14 2088487 Link 2 |
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Dont think ull get too many people looking to go to pointless matches, crowds wud be so small gate receipts wud barely cover cost of teams travelling and being fed afterwards paying officals expenses etc Gaaman1987 (Carlow) - Posts: 22 - 26/03/2018 21:15:49 2088495 Link 4 |
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What about the fans of those teams whose games are now written off who bought GAA season tickets for entrance to ALL of the NFL games, one team only playing 5 out of 7 games. Doesn't do what it says on the tin, false advertising. Leaves the GAA open to claims. Allianz can't be too happy as sponsor to be associated with this years shambles in one of the GAA's supposed showcases. Those at the top must assume responsibility for the lack of planning & poor management of the whole situation.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 26/03/2018 23:06:00 2088538 Link 0 |
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Absolutely agree 100% even doh with some of the replies ere so far telling me paltry attendance at Div 4 games I can only guess there are probably zero ticket holders with a season pass!
WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 26/03/2018 23:35:40 2088550 Link 1 |
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Ya a lot of teams in div4 might only get the 2 championship outings so maybe only 7 inter county football games in a calendar year, that's not going to do them any good and this along with trying to split the championship in two is telling us all we need to know about the GAA nowadays.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 27/03/2018 02:25:26 2088566 Link 1 |
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so in true gaa style: perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 27/03/2018 08:48:50 2088589 Link 5 |
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I thought the main problem with the GAA these days is supposed to be that all the focus of Crok e Park is on the intercounry game with no thoughts for the club game? Here we have intercounry games not played, and a loss of gate receipts, to try and ensure club fixtures are not disrupted and still people are not happy. Just shows you what an impossible job administrators have.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 27/03/2018 09:12:09 2088594 Link 1 |
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It's still only March why can't they play the games Saturday?
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 27/03/2018 10:39:40 2088618 Link 1 |
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Too simplistic, people are entitled to point out issues that are wrong. Are you blind to the myriad of reports from Inter county managers & ex players like Tomas O Se & what he said during the week, there are major problems. It's easy to label people as moaners but if they are pointing out the facts that are evident, then either you are somebody who is burying their head in the sand or you have a vested interest. The problem was created by the Gaa, led by Paraic Duffy with the introduction of the Super 8's, which was put in place for the TV companies & for financial reasons. It has led to counties playing week in week out due to rescheduling & not even allowing for anomalies such as weather. Climate change has been an issue for years now, not just this year & playing such a condensed schedule at this time of year was always going to fall foul of weather. This was pointed out by many yet the Association ploughed on. The finger of blame must be pointed at those paid to run the Association, in any job if you cock up you must be accountable, not in the GAA. The solution is to play Sigerson/Fitzgibbon in a condensed period in December. Cut out all secondary competitions such as Mc Kenna cup, FBD etc. League to be played in late April/May followed by C'ship, having all Inter County finished in 6 months. Packing more Inter County games into the schedule with Super 8's is just madness. By the way your sarcastic post re naming all the issues, they are real live issues whether you like it or not, you just can't wish them away, they must be dealt with. As for the season ticket supporter who purchased the ticket sold on a particular basis, it doesn't matter whether it's Div 1 or 4 if they don't get what they paid for, it's liable for refunding. If you buy a TV subscription for 12 months & you only got 10, you would complain, same principle. How do Allianz feel having their name associated with such shambolic amateurism. Those defending the paid leadership at the top & saying they have an impossible task are only trying to deflect from the fact that things are a mess & Joe Brolly is correct, there has been a leadership vacuum for over a decade.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 27/03/2018 11:53:05 2088648 Link 2 |
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Most universities have exams throughout December so it's not possible to play any Sigerson or Fitzgibbon games during that month so you need to go back to the drawing board with that master plan - see all this admin stuff isn't as easy as you might think. And I doubt you would be on here congratulating the GAA on showing great leadership if they announced all league games will have to be played because we don't want to upset Allianz Insurance by cancelling a couple of deadrubber games. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 27/03/2018 12:26:08 2088665 Link 1 |
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May seem dead rubber to us but players and managers would rather play then train. One county has only played 5 league games out of 7. We may say sur let them play if they want even in Rugby or Soccer you don't see dead rubber games just cancelled they are played.
WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 27/03/2018 14:05:48 2088718 Link 1 |
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The fact that the GAA are content to let Div 4 remain unfinished should be a big wake-up for those calling for a 2-tiered championship. It shows the GAA have no interest in weaker counties and any 2nd tier championship wouldn't be promoted at all, much like the maligned Tommy Murphy cup. M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 461 - 27/03/2018 15:59:06 2088777 Link 2 |
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Dead right I wouldn't have been on here congratulating the paid officials within the GAA for playing those dead rubber games, that's their job, that's what their paid to oversee. There are a large number of full time staff running the Association, they & the Ard Stiurothoir are responsible for getting things right. Most of us do our everyday job without anyone congratulating us, that's the way things work in real life & if we get it wrong we have to accept the criticism. As for dismissing the month of December over exams, you will find that exams, projects, Erasmus etc vary from college to college so there is no one month suited better than others, December means it's not in competition with any other Gaa competitions. Have it in January if you wish if you get rid of all the secondary competitions i.e. O Byrne cup, FBD, Mc Kenna cup etc. Having had someone involved before I can tell you, the training & challenge matches still go on regardless of exams. I watched lads play Sigerson this year & the secondary competitions & NFL this year, some lads playing 3 games in 10 days & that is a joke. At least I came up with my proposals, you just keep sitting on the fence & deflecting with your everything is rosy in the Gaa garden.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 27/03/2018 20:03:57 2088844 Link 0 |
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Last Sunday Carlow beat Westmeath in div 2 final and got 24 seconds coverage on Sunday game. The tg4 cameras were in Portlaoise to show the club final replay so RTÉ had coverage of the Carlow match. Instead they had a background of a picture of Carlow with the cup and no highlights of the match. That's why an all Ireland b will never work. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 27/03/2018 20:11:37 2088846 Link 1 |
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Every university i know of have their exams in either December or the early weeks of January, it's why the Sigerson and Fitzgibbon have to be played in late January and February. There is nothing at all wrong with lads training during exams, getting out for 90 mins exercise is very healthy for them and can reduce stress at a very difficult time. What would be wrong is expecting a lad in Cork to travel to Dublin to play a game the day of an exam, it's fairly simple stuff. I don't think everything is perfect at all, for a start I'd scrap April being a club month which was brought in at the request of the CPA despite it suiting nobody. It's also the main reason the fixture schedule has been so condensed this year but you would rather blame the super 8s for some reason. However I don't think games should be played just for the benefit of Allianz like you do, I prefer to think about what is best for the sport rather than an insurance company. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 27/03/2018 20:30:28 2088851 Link 0 |
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I am not putting an insurance company ( my premium due this month & still high, so no great love for insurance companies) ahead of the sport merely pointing out the fact that as the main sponsor who pump in a lot of resources that they deserve a modicum of respect & professionalism. Many of the colleges participating in Sigerson have very varied programmes from the Garda college, Institutes of Technology to the college system in Northern Ireland, things have changed from the traditional exam period. I think we are going to agree to disagree.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 28/03/2018 00:28:33 2088910 Link 0 |
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Costs more money to play these matches than any revenue they generate witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 28/03/2018 10:09:11 2088949 Link 0 |