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What is the format for the Quarter-finals of this year's National Hurling League?

I heard that the Div.1A teams will all have home advantage against the Div.1B teams in the Quarter-finals, can anyone confirm this?

Last year, a coin toss decided who would have home advantage, regardless of the division the counties were in.

ah_free_out_ref (Galway) - Posts: 16 - 04/03/2018 18:24:09    2081832

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Replying To ah_free_out_ref:  "What is the format for the Quarter-finals of this year's National Hurling League?

I heard that the Div.1A teams will all have home advantage against the Div.1B teams in the Quarter-finals, can anyone confirm this?

Last year, a coin toss decided who would have home advantage, regardless of the division the counties were in."
As far as I know the quarter final venues will be determined by a coin toss again.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 05/03/2018 11:28:19    2081903

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Replying To ah_free_out_ref:  "What is the format for the Quarter-finals of this year's National Hurling League?

I heard that the Div.1A teams will all have home advantage against the Div.1B teams in the Quarter-finals, can anyone confirm this?

Last year, a coin toss decided who would have home advantage, regardless of the division the counties were in."
THought they got rid of the Q finals? Far too many games as it is

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 05/03/2018 12:27:24    2081908

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Replying To tiobraid:  "THought they got rid of the Q finals? Far too many games as it is"
Well now structuring a competition in a way that somewhat resembles whats right is a big challenge for the GAA

Its likely Dublin could be in a quarter final after beating Antrim and Laois, while Cork miss out after beating Cork and Tipp

Sure you couldn't make it up if you tried

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 05/03/2018 13:34:09    2081918

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Replying To Ban:  "Well now structuring a competition in a way that somewhat resembles whats right is a big challenge for the GAA

Its likely Dublin could be in a quarter final after beating Antrim and Laois, while Cork miss out after beating Cork and Tipp

Sure you couldn't make it up if you tried"
Agreed. The league structure needs a serious overhaul. The relegation play-offs for instance you could have a team with zero points staying up ahead of a team who has four points eg. Cork and Galway in 2016.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 05/03/2018 13:59:56    2081925

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Replying To Ban:  "Well now structuring a competition in a way that somewhat resembles whats right is a big challenge for the GAA

Its likely Dublin could be in a quarter final after beating Antrim and Laois, while Cork miss out after beating Cork and Tipp

Sure you couldn't make it up if you tried"
Agreed. The league structure needs a serious overhaul. The relegation play-offs for instance you could have a team with zero points staying up ahead of a team who has four points eg. Cork and Galway in 2016.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 05/03/2018 13:59:56    2081926

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Should be
- top 2 in 1A into semi finals
- 3rd and 4th in 1A play 1st and 2nd in 1B in quarter finals.

And even that is a joke when you think of it.

But to me, the promotion/relegation system is the complete farce - the bottom team in 1A should be relegated, and 2nd bottom in 1A play 2nd in 1B for promotion/relegation.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 06/03/2018 11:06:53    2082148

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Replying To Pinkie:  "Should be
- top 2 in 1A into semi finals
- 3rd and 4th in 1A play 1st and 2nd in 1B in quarter finals.

And even that is a joke when you think of it.

But to me, the promotion/relegation system is the complete farce - the bottom team in 1A should be relegated, and 2nd bottom in 1A play 2nd in 1B for promotion/relegation."
Pinkie
That is dead right. Just wait until Cork are relegated and that will be changed.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 06/03/2018 13:50:17    2082196

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Oldtourman,that happened last time when cork were being relegated,and they got the structure changed!
it still galls a lot of people in wexford that we got completely screwed by that change.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 06/03/2018 14:19:46    2082211

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Pinkie
That is dead right. Just wait until Cork are relegated and that will be changed."
A silly remark. Cork were relegated a few seasons ago and many - like you - predicted that the league structure would change to accommodate them. It didn't happen, of course and there was no reason why it should.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 06/03/2018 17:06:37    2082256

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Replying To perfect10:  "Oldtourman,that happened last time when cork were being relegated,and they got the structure changed!
it still galls a lot of people in wexford that we got completely screwed by that change."
You'll have to refresh my memory on that one, Perfect10. When did that happen?

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 06/03/2018 17:09:30    2082257

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Replying To Midleton:  "You'll have to refresh my memory on that one, Perfect10. When did that happen?"
Well for a start they got beat in every game in one campaign a few years back but then availed off= a play off to beat Galway and stayed up. If you cannot win a single group game in a particular season you do not deserve to be up. Limerick won promotion on the field of play and the rules were changed afterwards and they remained in Division 1B. An absolute load of codswallop, yet their manager, Donal O'Grady, said it was the right place for us. I wonder if his own county were treated the same way would he have reacted as he did. Well I doubt it and as far as Frank Murphy was concerned he would have risen blue murder.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 06/03/2018 17:21:00    2082262

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To be fair, there was allot of noise of league re-structuring when Cork got relegated in 2013 - but nothing happened

I think they had to settle with all tough games fixed as home matches instead (Limerick & Wexford)

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 06/03/2018 17:30:12    2082264

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well for a start they got beat in every game in one campaign a few years back but then availed off= a play off to beat Galway and stayed up. If you cannot win a single group game in a particular season you do not deserve to be up. Limerick won promotion on the field of play and the rules were changed afterwards and they remained in Division 1B. An absolute load of codswallop, yet their manager, Donal O'Grady, said it was the right place for us. I wonder if his own county were treated the same way would he have reacted as he did. Well I doubt it and as far as Frank Murphy was concerned he would have risen blue murder."
It is not Cork's fault that the two bottom teams play off for relegation. Those are the rules, with which I don't agree, either, but the rules were not made by Cork. Maybe Cork should have thrown the relegation playoff against Galway just to satisfy people like you?

The year Cork were down in Division 1B with Limerick, Limerick drew in Pairc Ui Chaoimh and gave themselves a great chance of going up on points difference, as they proceeded to trounce Antrim by 25 points while cork only beat them by while Cork only beat them by six. But Cork won all the rest of their matches while Limerick only drew with Offaly. Cork's fault, as well, I suppose.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 06/03/2018 19:32:06    2082297

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