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I'm just getting around to watching the cork Waterford game now. Obviously the pitch is in a disgraceful state but the other thing I have a problem with is the glare and the brightness of the concrete at the terrace ends behind the goals. I'm only 14 minutes into watching this game as I type and my eyes are already killing me from the brightness of the terraces. Anyone else notice this as a problem? Its a very easy problem to solve really, much easier than getting the pitch right anyway. The stadium probably needs to be closed again until they sort it out

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 93 - 26/02/2018 22:36:24    2080778

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Replying To Onfor15:  "I'm just getting around to watching the cork Waterford game now. Obviously the pitch is in a disgraceful state but the other thing I have a problem with is the glare and the brightness of the concrete at the terrace ends behind the goals. I'm only 14 minutes into watching this game as I type and my eyes are already killing me from the brightness of the terraces. Anyone else notice this as a problem? Its a very easy problem to solve really, much easier than getting the pitch right anyway. The stadium probably needs to be closed again until they sort it out"
Put on a pair of sunglasses maybe?! ;)

Didn't really bother me to be honest when watching.

The pitch was in an awful jocker though.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12111 - 27/02/2018 08:20:53    2080828

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Replying To Onfor15:  "I'm just getting around to watching the cork Waterford game now. Obviously the pitch is in a disgraceful state but the other thing I have a problem with is the glare and the brightness of the concrete at the terrace ends behind the goals. I'm only 14 minutes into watching this game as I type and my eyes are already killing me from the brightness of the terraces. Anyone else notice this as a problem? Its a very easy problem to solve really, much easier than getting the pitch right anyway. The stadium probably needs to be closed again until they sort it out"
Ah jasysus the concrete is the only bright thing in Cork City so leave it alone

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1381 - 27/02/2018 10:22:20    2080853

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And the thing I didn't mention was once the ball was airborne it was impossible to see it due to the mainly white background of the new concrete. As I said maybe I'm the only one who had a problem with it. Obviously the pitch is an absolute joke and how it was ever let get into that condition needs investigation

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 93 - 27/02/2018 10:28:19    2080857

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Hoping for a trip there in the Super 8's.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1891 - 27/02/2018 11:02:52    2080864

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Nobody asking the hard questions on this story. An €80 Million Euro development which had the opening weekend games on the pitch & the game the last day & its in this state ? Let's not forget that this development in its two years over ran its Budget by €16 Million, €16 Million is an awful lot of money that would house a lot of homeless families in Cork & let's not forget that for those of us paying tax we contributed €30 Million towards this development. Any word from Tracey Kennedy & Frank Murphy re the pitch, both in the top jobs in Cork & one of them a full time employee, they had an awful lot to say last weekend but nobody asking them about the state of the pitch at the Pairc or the €16 Million over run ! A pair that voted against Transparency. The worst field I have seen in years, that has just been done & cost huge sums of money & in typical Gaa fashion no one bats an eye lid or asks the hard questions, sheep !

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 27/02/2018 13:01:49    2080907

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Nobody asking the hard questions on this story. An €80 Million Euro development which had the opening weekend games on the pitch & the game the last day & its in this state ? Let's not forget that this development in its two years over ran its Budget by €16 Million, €16 Million is an awful lot of money that would house a lot of homeless families in Cork & let's not forget that for those of us paying tax we contributed €30 Million towards this development. Any word from Tracey Kennedy & Frank Murphy re the pitch, both in the top jobs in Cork & one of them a full time employee, they had an awful lot to say last weekend but nobody asking them about the state of the pitch at the Pairc or the €16 Million over run ! A pair that voted against Transparency. The worst field I have seen in years, that has just been done & cost huge sums of money & in typical Gaa fashion no one bats an eye lid or asks the hard questions, sheep !"
Personally i think its important that each regional centre i.e North, South, West, East has a stadium with the capacity to hold 40 - 50k and that should be a key aim of the GAA. I accept your point about homeless families etc and yes perspective required but it not like the finance would be directed there if PUC wasn't financed.

Big games are funneled to much towards Croke Park and the east, we need stadiums throughout the country and in each province to cater for big schools, college, club games and the ability to cater for provincial finals, quarter and semi finals in my opinion at inter county, safely. Its only fair as a national sport that GAA games can be brought around the country and every region indigionously catered for at youth and club level for big games.

The cost is irrelevant in my opinion despite over runs. The stadium if it stands for 100 years without redevelopment will pay for itself many times over.

If Casement finally gets the go ahead the next priority should be the West and the GAA will future proof their ability to hold some of the biggest games outside of Dublin for 100 years.

As for the pitch i think every stadium ever built has had there problem with quality in the first few years until it beds in etc, it seems unavoidable. It was interesting the purchase the site in Naul by the GAA for pitch provision and maintenance.

Personally speaking i think the GAA are getting their act together from an infrastructure perspective and im really pleased with their progress in this regard.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1891 - 27/02/2018 13:44:34    2080923

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I found it hard to follow the ball when it was in line with terrace in my vision, but its brand new, cant do anything about fresh concrete unless you paint it over with a dark colour, hopefully come championship we wont have to see the concrete and terraces would be reasonably full

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 246 - 27/02/2018 16:19:23    2080984

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Nobody asking the hard questions on this story. An €80 Million Euro development which had the opening weekend games on the pitch & the game the last day & its in this state ? Let's not forget that this development in its two years over ran its Budget by €16 Million, €16 Million is an awful lot of money that would house a lot of homeless families in Cork & let's not forget that for those of us paying tax we contributed €30 Million towards this development. Any word from Tracey Kennedy & Frank Murphy re the pitch, both in the top jobs in Cork & one of them a full time employee, they had an awful lot to say last weekend but nobody asking them about the state of the pitch at the Pairc or the €16 Million over run ! A pair that voted against Transparency. The worst field I have seen in years, that has just been done & cost huge sums of money & in typical Gaa fashion no one bats an eye lid or asks the hard questions, sheep !"
Quit whinging. The pitch will take time to settle in. Well done to Cork GAA for building it. It will be a great addition to the city and county. And it will help Cork win All Ireland's in the future. Tóg da bhóg e

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1286 - 27/02/2018 17:13:02    2081007

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Replying To PyatPree:  "I found it hard to follow the ball when it was in line with terrace in my vision, but its brand new, cant do anything about fresh concrete unless you paint it over with a dark colour, hopefully come championship we wont have to see the concrete and terraces would be reasonably full"
It's no ordinary concrete, it's Banagher Concrete!

LooseCannon (Offaly) - Posts: 67 - 27/02/2018 17:38:28    2081016

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Replying To galwayford:  "Quit whinging. The pitch will take time to settle in. Well done to Cork GAA for building it. It will be a great addition to the city and county. And it will help Cork win All Ireland's in the future. Tóg da bhóg e"
No ones whinging, just pointing out the facts. The day I listen to you I will be stuck. Not that long ago you were posting about Connacht rugby & then a few months later running them down. Same with Kevin Walsh & Micheal O Donoghue who you were always shouting that they should be sent on coaching courses. You make statements & it's clear to see you hadn't a clue about things including who a Galway free taker was at the time, all their in your old posts. Your the man who knows it all now. There is a difference between whinging & pointing out factual things that are blatantly wrong but that's the new Gaa, don't allow those facts appear, shout them down as whingers. Any private business that would allow an overrun of €16 Million on an €80 Million project wouldn't last long in business & those responsible would be shifted on fairly fast.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 27/02/2018 18:35:43    2081040

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Replying To galwayford:  "Quit whinging. The pitch will take time to settle in. Well done to Cork GAA for building it. It will be a great addition to the city and county. And it will help Cork win All Ireland's in the future. Tóg da bhóg e"
I don't know about that at all

Now if they spent the same amount on games development..

Yep. That def would have helped them win AI's

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18697 - 27/02/2018 19:59:13    2081074

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Replying To galwayford:  "Quit whinging. The pitch will take time to settle in. Well done to Cork GAA for building it. It will be a great addition to the city and county. And it will help Cork win All Ireland's in the future. Tóg da bhóg e"
I was at a Munster Champoionship there in '69, when it was the old Athletic Grounds and there were no stands there and it was a wet boggy pitch that day and now with a huge big stand cutting off sunlight fron the South it is even worse. The fact is for the outlay concerned it should never have been rebuilt there and the Ennis Road Grounds, the last time it was developed, should have been relocated to a better site as well.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1712 - 27/02/2018 20:20:26    2081082

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I don't think architects take into account the shade from stands. I've always thought that the southern stand in a stadium should be smaller or should had a retractable roof allowing more sunlight in.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 349 - 28/02/2018 13:04:35    2081210

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "I was at a Munster Champoionship there in '69, when it was the old Athletic Grounds and there were no stands there and it was a wet boggy pitch that day and now with a huge big stand cutting off sunlight fron the South it is even worse. The fact is for the outlay concerned it should never have been rebuilt there and the Ennis Road Grounds, the last time it was developed, should have been relocated to a better site as well."
That particular road has been for years called the Boggy Road.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 343 - 28/02/2018 13:45:41    2081223

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Any word from Frank Murphy, Tracey Kennedy & the Cork delegates when the brand new €86 Million Pairc Ui Chaoimh pitch will be open again for play ? Cork clubs could get their County Board delegates to ask the questions of when & why an €86 Million development that hosted one double header looks like a scene from Qatar. They could also ask how much are repairs to the brand new surface going to cost. Will they be the first order for the new Gaa turf farm in North county Dublin ? How many games will Pairc Ui Chaoimh hold a year or will it now become a protected species. Surely if the Club delegates who don't like the idea of transparency as we saw at Congress don't ask or answer the questions, then Taxpayers who invested €30 Million into the project can ask who is in charge of this, how was it let get like this, surely after an overrun of €16 Million on the project of €86 Million that the pitch which is the key centre piece of the project was so badly overseen by whom ? What are the remedial costs & who is going to pay for it ? There are lots of areas around Cork city that have communities in trouble where a multi million sum of €86 Million could have revived those communities. Instead we get a beach overseen by people who put themselves up as a paragons of virtue but don't like the idea of transparent questions. The bad old days are back, reminds me of another Irish institution.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 02/03/2018 07:50:08    2081530

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