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Galway Vs Monaghan

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "lots of silly macho man stuff here from clowns on both sides, should be a good game"
Agree with this should be a decent game. Now we are safe team can really have a cut here. I like Galway real traditional have a go county who when they get on a roll can sometimes come from now where and win an all Ireland bit like down in their pomp have the swagger. That 98 team were exceptional bunch. We traditionally have struggled against them in league football think win in 2011 our only one in recent times but this will count for nothing on Sunday as we have been v gritty in this league and won't give much away. Malachy won't have missed fact our defence let us down badly last summer and it has been pretty mean so far in the league. Keep it this way and discipline good (which hasn't always been case) we will edge this by a point or two. Extra weeks rest big factor here as would have been our third weekend in a row. Comer Wylie be a great contest if drew does pick him up loves the physical stuff.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1260 - 07/03/2018 18:22:20    2082523

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Replying To seanie08:  "Agree with this should be a decent game. Now we are safe team can really have a cut here. I like Galway real traditional have a go county who when they get on a roll can sometimes come from now where and win an all Ireland bit like down in their pomp have the swagger. That 98 team were exceptional bunch. We traditionally have struggled against them in league football think win in 2011 our only one in recent times but this will count for nothing on Sunday as we have been v gritty in this league and won't give much away. Malachy won't have missed fact our defence let us down badly last summer and it has been pretty mean so far in the league. Keep it this way and discipline good (which hasn't always been case) we will edge this by a point or two. Extra weeks rest big factor here as would have been our third weekend in a row. Comer Wylie be a great contest if drew does pick him up loves the physical stuff."
yes I agree, I think ye bet us in April 2014 by a point in Clones to keep our promotion in check.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1046 - 07/03/2018 18:51:02    2082525

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Replying To kiloughter:  "To be honest Dunmore whatever Monaghan have or have not achieved historically should not inform what people think of their current squad. They have been very consistent to a point and obviously need to make the next step. I do feel we are on par with them although they are further along the road (if that is not a contradiction). They have some serious footballers no more than ourselves so will be interesting to see how we both do in championship. Bottom line is i like what Malachy O'Rourke is doing there and the fact he is not a bluffer makes it more impressive. On a side but related note their best defender currently Fintan Kelly has strong Tuam connections and with the legendary P.Joyce's Monaghan connections through marriage there will be mixed emotions for a few from both counties on Sunday."
I think that's a very fair post and is a realistic summary of where both counties stand at present. However, I don't think either manager will be getting too worked up with the result on Sunday.

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 07/03/2018 20:02:02    2082543

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "lots of silly macho man stuff here from clowns on both sides, should be a good game"
Now you've said it. A few clowns in every county !

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 07/03/2018 20:08:30    2082545

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Don't think either team conceded a goal in the league so far so it could be a defensive enough game. We don't score enough goals for my liking and Galway are more of a goal scoring threat than us, but I think this will come down to long range point scoring from different players and patience in the build up. this is where we could shade it

Was interesting to hear MOR say after the Tyrone game they had not much work done yet. so the emphasis at the start of the year must be further down the track. Where as Galway are going strong from the start which is the correct approach for them as going straight back down again would be a set back in development. Two more weeks will bring us on even more though
Draw wouldn't be a bad result for both teams

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 626 - 07/03/2018 20:58:29    2082558

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "Foxes Denn is really a Monaghan man who forgot to change accounts before posting (!) In any case, it is good to see Mattie McGleenan doing well after some knee-jerk reactions to McKenna cup defeats. A win against Down will more or less put Cavan back in Div1.

Comer will be a huge test for Conor Boyle, who has done well as Monaghan's no.3 this year. That has freed up Drew Wylie to move to 6 where he really looks to be enjoying himself. Whether that continues later in the year on drier pitches remains to be seen.

It will also be good to see a top-grade hurling match in the flesh next Sunday. The last time a lot of Monaghan football people had that privilege was 2007, when Limerick caught Waterford on the hop after that classic Monaghan-Kerry QF"
Funny I recall that 2007 double header well. They were the days when huge crowds attended the all Ireland quarter finals. Monaghan and Waterford brought huge support with plenty of Limerick green present. Was difficult to differentiate the Farney and the Deise given the colour and jersey similarity.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1377 - 07/03/2018 21:11:34    2082561

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Maybe it is Newbridge as opposed to Tuam. Great defender all the same."
And a great goal scorer - check out last year's championship stats ....

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 283 - 07/03/2018 22:16:12    2082583

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Conor McManus is class. Best forward in the country imo. Joy to watch. Hopefully he plays on Sunday. Great learning curve for Sean Andy

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 734 - 07/03/2018 23:00:11    2082593

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Replying To Mayonman:  "Conor McManus is class. Best forward in the country imo. Joy to watch. Hopefully he plays on Sunday. Great learning curve for Sean Andy"
Agree with this. Really joy to watch and it would be great for Sean Andy to get another test against top class opposition. Big fan of a few of Monaghan's forward, like Jack McCarron and Conor McCarthy. Thought McCarthy was very impressive in the Sigerson final. Looked the real star ahead of Con O'Callaghan for UCD.

Townee2018 (Galway) - Posts: 126 - 08/03/2018 10:58:10    2082648

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Comer plays all over the pitch for us he's as likely to be at corner back as he is to be in the half forward line. While his best position is forward he is sometimes needed around the middle to throw his weight around when we aren't winning ball there.i think in the kerry game he played mostly in the middle or in defence . We are lucky that all our other forwards are well capable of taking scores so we aren't overly reliant on him and thats without Burke or Daly being available yet. He more so than any other forward has a target on his back so I think it's fantastic that if a team tries to nullify him (which they will) we can already play without depending on him for scores and if it means that we have the opposition's best defender following him all over the place then even better. He is our most valuable player though and I really think he fully believes we can win every game we play which is what we need in a captain.Delighted his captaincy is going so well so far.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 725 - 08/03/2018 17:38:13    2082773

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Replying To galwayfball:  "Comer plays all over the pitch for us he's as likely to be at corner back as he is to be in the half forward line. While his best position is forward he is sometimes needed around the middle to throw his weight around when we aren't winning ball there.i think in the kerry game he played mostly in the middle or in defence . We are lucky that all our other forwards are well capable of taking scores so we aren't overly reliant on him and thats without Burke or Daly being available yet. He more so than any other forward has a target on his back so I think it's fantastic that if a team tries to nullify him (which they will) we can already play without depending on him for scores and if it means that we have the opposition's best defender following him all over the place then even better. He is our most valuable player though and I really think he fully believes we can win every game we play which is what we need in a captain.Delighted his captaincy is going so well so far."
You are correct about your forwards and the ability of all of them to score. I just wonder if the final piece of the jig saw for Galway is to get defenders forward to score more often. In the league so far only Conroy (class act) has scored outside the forward line, where as Monaghan have had 8 scorers from defence and mid-field. God knows how many Dublin have had
Last year when ye lost to Kerry it was the same 5 scorers as now. The top teams all have good defences and still defend in numbers and it can require patience to work a space for someone to shoot. Very often it may have to be a defender that takes on that responsibility. I would like to see Galway develop that aspect of their game. The next couple of matches might say more. Any way good luck for the season ahead.

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 626 - 08/03/2018 19:51:01    2082793

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Replying To mhunicean_abu:  "You are correct about your forwards and the ability of all of them to score. I just wonder if the final piece of the jig saw for Galway is to get defenders forward to score more often. In the league so far only Conroy (class act) has scored outside the forward line, where as Monaghan have had 8 scorers from defence and mid-field. God knows how many Dublin have had
Last year when ye lost to Kerry it was the same 5 scorers as now. The top teams all have good defences and still defend in numbers and it can require patience to work a space for someone to shoot. Very often it may have to be a defender that takes on that responsibility. I would like to see Galway develop that aspect of their game. The next couple of matches might say more. Any way good luck for the season ahead."
Bradshaw is capable of taking his points. Cooke can at club level and at u-21 so I expect once his confidence grows and he gets more experience we will see it. C.sweeney moved to half back now has a great ability to get forward unmarked a poor attempt and a couple of good blocks have held him goalless-Hoping more time in div1 in this position will bring him on . I think having 6 people who can take their scores is a great start and we will have 2 on the bench at championship who we can also call upon but like you said div1 playing the top teams is going to bring us on and show us our real weaknesses and thankfully we can count on at least another year of playing the best .

And good luck to monaghan. Hoping for a tough battle on Sunday. Excited for the possibility of Sean Andy v McManus it can only bring him on marking arguably the best forward in the country

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 725 - 08/03/2018 21:07:44    2082810

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Replying To mhunicean_abu:  "You are correct about your forwards and the ability of all of them to score. I just wonder if the final piece of the jig saw for Galway is to get defenders forward to score more often. In the league so far only Conroy (class act) has scored outside the forward line, where as Monaghan have had 8 scorers from defence and mid-field. God knows how many Dublin have had
Last year when ye lost to Kerry it was the same 5 scorers as now. The top teams all have good defences and still defend in numbers and it can require patience to work a space for someone to shoot. Very often it may have to be a defender that takes on that responsibility. I would like to see Galway develop that aspect of their game. The next couple of matches might say more. Any way good luck for the season ahead."
We're not too badly off in that regard. It's not certain whose gonna line up in our half back line yet, but the likes of Johnny Heaney are well capable of picking off scores. Same goes for Gary O'Donnell if he's playing at 7, and Kieran Molloy as well. Cathal Sweeney has had a few sighters but yet to convert. At least getting into the right areas though.

Townee2018 (Galway) - Posts: 126 - 09/03/2018 13:17:36    2082932

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Interesting to see some Farney posters saying that Monaghan not really focused on the league. I would have thought a team being a few yrs on the road without a top grade national title ( no disrespect to league titles Div 2 or below) would be chomping at the bit to win the league. We are much newer to this with largely younger squad so all new to us and have reached our league ambition in one sense by retaining division status. If you saw Malachy's reaction after the first round league loss to Mayo I think you could see he was not a happy camper. Hard to believe if we win tomorrow we are in the league final with head to head irrespective what happens in the last two league rounds. Really reflects the work being done but also the serious quality we have emerging.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1377 - 10/03/2018 10:45:06    2083130

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Unusual team selection from MOR, very containing selection, was expecting Colin Walshe to pick up the roving Comer but he must be injured since the Tyrone game. K Duffy's inclusion at corner back must be for that purpose.
Was also expecting K Hughes to start at full forward and think he still will, that will be a different challenge for Sean Andy.

Good subs bench including D Wylie, K O' Connell, K Hughes, O Duffy and Mc Manus, could be a few changes to the starting line-up on the day (morning)

Very early start, need to be heading off soon, does the Hurling crowd follow the football and vice versa. Will it be manic in Salthill before the game

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 626 - 10/03/2018 11:30:41    2083135

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Both counties need this one to stretch the legs against the Dubs, Monaghan will be going for a huge second half with that bench.

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 802 - 10/03/2018 12:26:03    2083148

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Replying To mhunicean_abu:  "Unusual team selection from MOR, very containing selection, was expecting Colin Walshe to pick up the roving Comer but he must be injured since the Tyrone game. K Duffy's inclusion at corner back must be for that purpose.
Was also expecting K Hughes to start at full forward and think he still will, that will be a different challenge for Sean Andy.

Good subs bench including D Wylie, K O' Connell, K Hughes, O Duffy and Mc Manus, could be a few changes to the starting line-up on the day (morning)

Very early start, need to be heading off soon, does the Hurling crowd follow the football and vice versa. Will it be manic in Salthill before the game"
Bit of a mixed bag in the sense that some of the hurling only crowd will come in at half time. With the footballers going well other hurling only fans will come early as they would retain some interest in our footballers and to avoid traffic jams. Most of the football crowd will stick around for the hurling from my experience as it is a winner takes all game. Up to 15k expected. Probably a worse dilemma for Limerick fans travelling in relation to parking etc being the second game.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1377 - 10/03/2018 12:48:36    2083152

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"Very early start, need to be heading off soon, does the Hurling crowd follow the football and vice versa. Will it be manic in Salthill before the game"

Salthill won't be too bad for the football,the weather is promised fairly good so there won't be a mad rush for the stand.The stadium will start to fill from around 1.30.Good breakfast in coco or wildes 5 mins from stadium for something stronger lonergans,killorans .if I was driving look at Google maps park at "quincentennial drive" with car facing towards city for easier exit plenty of parking both sides of the road.
enjoy!

Cornetto2 (Galway) - Posts: 86 - 10/03/2018 13:17:52    2083158

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Someone has pointed out to me
"quincentennial drive" Is really for apartment dwellers.there is a car park but for exiting would be safer to park along "seapoint promenade".

Cornetto2 (Galway) - Posts: 86 - 10/03/2018 13:24:13    2083160

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Replying To maroondiesel:  "Both counties need this one to stretch the legs against the Dubs, Monaghan will be going for a huge second half with that bench."
I'd be more worried about our 1st half with 5 of our best not starting. It's almost like Malachy doesn't want to progress further in this league. Tyrone would just love to start as underdogs against us. Similarly Mayo with regard to Galway. I'd imagine both managers will be content with using their squads and settling for reasonable performances. As I expected McManus not starting. Will we start with that half back line ? all 3 are bench players come championship....would like to see K Hughes at FF but great impact possibilities from that bench.

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 10/03/2018 17:08:57    2083201

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