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Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 245 - 20/03/2018 15:41:45 2086285Link 0 1
WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 703 - 20/03/2018 15:46:03 2086290Link 0 0
grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 875 - 20/03/2018 15:51:02 2086293Link 4 1
I will be taking a break for a little while. Truthfully its down to myself my messages r to long and I tend to go off on a nostalgia trip . I need to take a break and come back and be more concise and shorter with my messages. I hope to be back by the championship when we have dethroned Dublin in leinster. keep the faith til then.
Regards Ollie Murphy. What happened was. Ollie was a great finisher. But he wasnt great at winning the dirty ball. Boylan fron 96 to 98 had Giles Geraghty Dowd and Reilly. All finishers and able to win dirty ball. They were picked ahead of Ollie. Boylan always liked to have 2 to 3 hard workers in his forwards and 3 to 4 finishers. Balance in the forwards was important. Something we havent done well since. In late 00s we had to many finishers in the forwards, not enough fellas to win the dirty ball and do the hard work, to many attackers . Same under O Dowd we used to play with 6 attackers in the forwards. Its no coincidence in 2007 one of the our best years in recent times we played Moyles Kevin Reilly and Niall Mcloughlin in the forwards.
Anyway Boylan kept Ollie back for when Dowd and Reilly retired in 98. So by 99 Ollie was like a coil let released, he was unmarkable. Also the real masterstroke was to play Geraghty up alongside Ollie , so Geraghty acted as target man and Ollie worked off him. It worked perfectly. With Giles pulling the strings on 40. Just watch the goal scored v Corkn in 99 final. It was big mac wins the ball pases the Giles, Giles picks out GG with a long pass and Ollie does the rest. That basically is what won us the All Ireland in 99. That triangle of Giles GG and Ollie. Boylan knew how to build teams and knew when players where ready. How he dealt with Ollie is the perfect example. From 99 to 21 Meath never lost a game when Ollie or GG where on the pitch. Ollie was the best corner forward in Ireland between 99 to 01. Two All Irelsnd sucesses in 96 and 99 proved Boylan was right.
Regards Sullivan vision the pass he picked out for lenihans winning goal v Galway last year..Very few players would have that vision. It was Gilesesque. Sullivan just needs more consistently. He has huge potential. But yes he can give the ball away. More experience playing sweepers and blanket defences will help.
Nobull I agree. I remeber the hill after 91 in the sun 10000 Dubs stood their for 5 mins after the game in total shock and slience and you could almost hear them saying in their minds , how the feck did they do that. 91 was nearly as good as winning an All Ireland. Nearly but not really the same.
What I said before when I talked about the old values of Meath football. The reason I talk about them and I have said this above, it is relevant . And the reason nobull is talking about them as well is, if he doesn't mind me saying, is we need to tap into this belief system and values again. I would say alot of people who say stop talking about Boylan years are probaly fans pre 2001. Its understandble. This is our worst decade since independence.
But if we are to suceed again we need to show more of the never say die spirit of the past. I dont know how you do that. To a young generation who live their lives through social media and iphones talking about 91 to our young players aint gonna work. But we need to get them to believe again in their county , their identity and who they are and what they represent now today in 2018 and what it means to wear that jersey. They have responsibility to themselves to their clubs to their county in 2018, but also to great men and teams of the past. To wear the Meath jersey should not be burden it should be an honour. You have to earn the right to wear the jersey. And until you beat Dublin in leinster you arent a Meath footballer. You are by definition but you are not really deep down. Very harsh. But thats the truth..Other generations we were in worse positions and Dublin were just as strong but great players like O Brien McDermott Quinn O Rourke and Giles led by Fr Tully and Seam Boylan never gave up even when everything seemed hopeless.
If you say in this 21st century gaa go away with your values and tradition. Well look at Codys kilkenny that was built on the values and tradition of kilkenny. Everything Cody did was straight out of the Fr Maher handbook ( Kilkenny coach in 60s 70s) that built great kilkenny teams in the 60s and 70s. For all the talk of finances and resources the core of Dublins sucess has been to carry on the values of Heffernans Dublin. Galvin has spoken over and over again how much Heffernan has had influence. The swagger of Heffernans teams can be seen in the Connollys of today. But when you see the ruthless way Dublin made sure Galway didnt win on Sunday or Mayo last September when in the dying minutes they did whatever it took to win. That is page 1 out of the Kevin Heffernan Dublin handbook to sucesss..Basically do whatever you gotta to do to win just do it. When I saw the footage of Galway v Dublin last sunday All I could think of was 1983 All Ireland when 12 men from.Dublin made sure Galway wouldnt win by whatever means possible. Its funny how things just keep repeating itself. Thats the extraordinary thing about football.and life general. The more you see, its just history repeating itself.
We need to get underage sucess now..All the work at underage needs to turn into silverware now..No if or buts. We need to do what Roscommon Cavan kildare have done. A couple of underage titles. That has to happen..We need to bring in coachs at senior and underage level to coach our players to play the modern way and break down modern defences..Galway have shown the way..We need to look to Ulster to help us to develop further. Outside Ulster with exception of Kerry Dublin Mayo no one has really succeeded in the new modern style of football. It will fascinating to see if Galway will succeed in the summer. Have they peaked to soon. But still they have given themselves a chance..We need to set up our defence properly and break forward in a way that will breakdown blanket defences and sweepers.
Not 1 club team is playing this way not 1 coach at club level or at underage level at club level or intercounty is playing this way. Every county team in Tyrone are playing a similar way from under 14 to senior. We need to bring in the proper support to show us how to break down blanket defences. Nothing wrong with this. Offaly hurling sucess in 80s and 90s was built on kilkenny men eg Diarmaid Healy and Cork men eg Trainers in Birr College showing them the proper way to hurl sucessfully. Down and Meath had allot of coachs passing across the border in the 60s with Joe Lennon and coaching courses in Meath. We need to get to grips with modern football tactics , but we need our players to believe again and when they are playing whoever they are playing they will win the ball ahead of their man because of their hunger and steel and desire. Thats how we won in the past. And for all the talk about gps thats how we will win in the future.
Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 310 - 20/03/2018 16:02:13 2086299Link 0 0