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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Why is it going to take longer travelling home after a 4pm game as opposed to a 2pm game?
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 11537 - 06/03/2018 21:13:50
So you cant grasp that there is a difference between getting home at 9pm and midnight?
Really?? Its very obvious and even more so if you wanted to bring kids to the game."
Yeah I understand that difference but I just don't understand why you said that the same journey gets longer if you leave later.

You claimed that a 2pm throw in would have people back home at 7/8pm whereas a 2 hour delay in throw in would have them home 3/4 hours later than that.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12108 - 08/03/2018 10:11:47    2082631

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Why is it going to take longer travelling home after a 4pm game as opposed to a 2pm game?
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 11537 - 06/03/2018 21:13:50
So you cant grasp that there is a difference between getting home at 9pm and midnight?
Really?? Its very obvious and even more so if you wanted to bring kids to the game."
Yeah I understand that difference but I just don't understand why you said that the same journey gets longer if you leave later.

You claimed that a 2pm throw in would have people back home at 7/8pm whereas a 2 hour delay in throw in would have them home 3/4 hours later than that."
Stopping for a few pints

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1381 - 08/03/2018 11:09:01    2082654

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Why is it going to take longer travelling home after a 4pm game as opposed to a 2pm game?
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 11539 - 06/03/2018 21:13:50
stopping for food etc and later kick off/throw in is different orientation to early kick offs/throw ins. people going out for night from later starts

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/03/2018 11:13:54    2082661

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Jesus, this is getting boring

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 251 - 08/03/2018 12:08:21    2082674

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Why is it going to take longer travelling home after a 4pm game as opposed to a 2pm game?
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 11539 - 06/03/2018 21:13:50
stopping for food etc and later kick off/throw in is different orientation to early kick offs/throw ins. people going out for night from later starts"
C'mon we all know culchies get the dinner in at 1 o'clock regardless.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12108 - 08/03/2018 12:19:23    2082675

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C'mon we all know culchies get the dinner in at 1 o'clock regardless.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 11542 - 08/03/2018 12:19:23
Oh certainly but what about tea? Cant miss that or supper or ...

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/03/2018 14:18:44    2082705

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Oh certainly but what about tea? Cant miss that or supper or ...

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13344 - 08/03/2018 14:18:44


Hang Sandwiches in tin foil and a flask of tae outta the boot of the car surely no?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12108 - 08/03/2018 14:55:47    2082717

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Replying To realdub:  "Geraghty was widely regarded as a great player, he had his demons like Connolly or whoever but he certainly got credit, especially here in Dublin."
No he didnt get the credit he deserved.
The comment about own supporters. Ask any Meath supporter and they will tell you he was one of Meaths greatest players ever. When he first came on the scene with blonde hair dyed and white boots a small minority of older supporters who remembered Pat The Red Collier tye Meath players and a no nonsense old traditional play would have criticised Geraghty. The same way Ciaran McDonald (another outstanding football talent with white boots and dyed blonde hair) would have criticised by small section of Mayo support at the start. But soon both of those older Meath and Mayo realised Geraghty and McDonald were extraordinary talents.

If Geraghty came from kerry or Dublin he would got more praise. The one player that would have reminded me of Geraghty currently would be Connolly. Some of the skill and point taking of Connolly is very Geraghtyesque. But while he is fast he wouldnt have had that pace and sidestep Geraghty had. If Connolly had the speed of McCaffrey he would be Geraghty. If he could be all star wing back he could be Geraghty.

The thing is Geraghty never played in his best position. Which was wing back or even centre back. At centre back he was the greatest underage talent Meath ever produced being the main man on minor and under 21 All Ireland winning Meath teams. But Boylan had this talent of turning defender's into class forwards like Geraghty. Brendan Reilly was a corner back turned into an top class full forward. Donal Curtis was another defender turned into effective forward. Trevor Giles played most of his club football at centre back. He was a half back by trade but only played centre back two or three times for Meath. Joe Cassells was corner back in 86 and within a year he was an effective half forward. Boylans ability to reinvent players was unique. And Geraghtys tranformation from a half back to a half forward and then to a full forward sucessfully was Boylan at his best. But neitheir him or Geraghty got due praise. As a county we have always been undervalued. People can tell us now how bad we are now but could never give Meath due credit when we were great. I have seen counties lose leinster finals get more praise then Meath did for winning All Irelands especially from the Dublin media ( national papers RTE radio Tv etc).

We overachieved for a county our size and stature for 80 or so years. And maybe we could be now were we should really be. Maybe we are now the New Cavan. But for 80 or 90 years we overachieved and went toe to toe with Dublin. In the most unequal rivalry in Irish sport. It was one of the most sucessful periods any county has had in gaelic football history. Outside kerry and Dublin only Cavan in 40s and 50s Galway 56 to 66 could really be compare.

Dublin were Manchester Utd. Meath were leicister City City . Look at other great gaa rivalries . Tipp and kilkenny are similar enough counties in terms of stature population and landscape. Armagh and Tyrone are also similar enough counties. Cork and kerry are similar enough counties. Galway and Mayo are also similar enough counties. I know there are a few differences but nothing compares to the differences between Meath and Dublin. Meath was and is an average midlands county in Irish society in terms of stature and power. Dublin is the centre of economic social and cultural activity in the country with enormous advantages in terms of population and resources over Meath and yet Meath went toe to toe and periods of sucess over Dublin that no other county has had where Dublin teams could beat Meath year after year in the 40s 50s 60s 80s 90s.

I think Geraghtys undervalued is all part of the whole county being undervalued in an achievement sense. While the rivalry now is so one sided, it was a game that used to catch the attention of the nation like no other gaa rivalry. It is a pity and u do get the Dublin supporters post 2002 almost hate Meath more then the fans of 70s 80s and 90s. The post 2002 supporters see Meath as an annoyance talking about past glories. While for the fans of 70s 80s and 90s there was begrudging respect on both sides and a nostalgia for those past titanic clashs. But the fact is wbat was Meath are going through now could be inevitable. Any time any county has had the sucess like Meath had there was a natural dip afterwards and most never really recoverd eg Wexford 1914 to 18, Cavan 30s 40s 50s Gakway 56 to 66. Meath could be the new Cavan. I hope not. But it could happen.

But when they were great they really never got the credit Geraghty or Meath deserved when they went toe to toe with Dublin . Its pity even for Dublin now dot to have a competitive Meath to face. For example
In the 40s Dublin won 1 All Ireland.Meath won 1 All Ireland.
In the 50s Dublin won 1 All Ireland. Meath won 1 All Ireland.
In the 60s Dublin won 1 All Ireland. Meath won 1 All Ireland.
In the 70s Dublin won 3 All Irelands Meath won 0 All Irelands.
In the 80s Dublin won 1 All Ireland. Meath won 2 All Irelands.
In the 90s Dublin won 1 All Ireland. Meath won 2 All Ireland .
In 00s Dublin won 0 All Irelands.Meath won 0 All Irelands.
It only in this decade that Dublin have gone ahead of Meath dramatically. So one of the great football achievements was how Meath went toe to toe with the capital for 80 years and never really got any credit for that. Between 1958 and 1997 Dublin Meath and Offaly won all the leinster titles. ( Exception was longford in 68). If Offaly and particularly Meath were not sucessful Dublin could have been winning 20 or 30 or 40 leinster titles in a row in the 50s 60s 70s 80s and 90s.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 08/03/2018 18:22:31    2082777

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Furlong, I honestly don't think that anyone ever really questioned Geraghty's talent, but it was a few of the on-pitch scrapes that he got into that coloured people's perception of him. Meath weren't a popular team, but few people would have a bad word to say about Trevor Giles or John McDermott, for instance. Geraghty attracted a different type of attention.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 1546 - 08/03/2018 19:07:00    2082783

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Looking at Laochra Gael it brought home what a great player Graham Geragthy was, one of the great talents of the modern era. You hear it now and again but its not a very common held opinion. I remeber a louth manager after Geraghty scoring a wonder goal in injury time to win a championship match v louth in saying afterwards that Geragty was one of the most talented footballers of the last 40 years. He was very talented. When he was wing back he was the best wing back in Ireland ,when he was wing forward he was the best wing forward in Ireland and when he was full forward he was the best full forward. He was all star player in three very different positions and played man of the match performances in leinster final All Ireland semi finals and finals in those 3 different positions. That is quite unique. I cannot think of many footballers who have done that. Ger Power of kerry was a great half back and half foward for kerry. But overall I cannot think of many players to excell in those three positions like Geraghty. Thing was he played most of his career at full forward but he was wasted there as his best position was half back or half forward.

He also got trials with Asrenal played rubgy to high level and was very good at international rules . An incredibly talented athlete. I alway felt if he was from Dublin or kerry he would have got more praise. For young fans the best way to describe Graham Geraghty was when he was wing back he was as good as lee Keegan. When he was half forward he was as good as Diarmaid Connolly and when he was full forward he would have been as good as Andy Moran or Paul Geaney. Definatly one of the most versatile talents to play the game in recent times. But he doesnt get the credit he deserves."
Cannot agree, I think Graham Geragthy was very well regarded as a top class footballer and received the credit he deserved. Many, many complementary articles were written about him in print media, selected for all stars and represented his country. Not sure what is is you think is missing.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 1090 - 08/03/2018 19:24:16    2082788

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Hate the way clubs are treated at times as nursery's for counties, it's as though the clubs should be grateful for getting the county player for the messily amount of games that he's available, completely forgetting where he learnt his craft in the first place

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5156 - 09/03/2018 17:01:42    2082990

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What is the point of the CPA? Like the GPA they will only go on to get in the way of common sense. Already at the top table you have at least one individual who has had more clubs than Tiger Woods. In my view real club players may have at most two clubs. The real answer lies with us club players becoming our club delegate at the county board. Get rid of the old dinosaurs at county board level and forget about these breakaway groups that in some cases are there to fuel certain individuals egos, not us, the real club players.

Greensheen (Meath) - Posts: 9 - 14/03/2018 21:35:19    2084644

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