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In fairness there is no comparison as Murphy is a far superior player and I think all would agree with that.
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 01/03/2018 18:23:13 2081485 Link 1 |
They have great players but I think their real strength is their mental toughness and their sum is greater than their parts. Very definitely not overrated.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 01/03/2018 18:24:02 2081486 Link 5 |
Firstly O Shea is an excellent player. If I had to pick any 15 players from the last few years would he be in it ? Not for me he wouldn't but the criticism he gets at time is laughable. Had an excellent year last year and was outstanding for about 50 mins of the final, yes he ran out of steam but he gave us a platform. Some of the stuff I read including from Brolly is pure drivel. There is as much negative Bull written about him as there is when he is talked up. Just let the lad play ball. And I have never seen anyone mention him as a player similar to Murphy.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7893 - 01/03/2018 19:22:39 2081498 Link 1 |
The only time I've seen the two compared is when people talk about big lads getting fouled. Both of them get no protection from the refs.
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 02/03/2018 09:36:50 2081536 Link 1 |
Ya Star Donaghy would be in the same bracket, as you'd have 2/3 fellas hanging off him at times. The big men are just expected to get on with it I'm afraid.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/03/2018 10:33:11 2081545 Link 1 |
Donaghy wouldn't be in the same league as Murphy or O Shea for that matter. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 02/03/2018 11:25:58 2081556 Link 1 |
McCarthy & Kilkenny possibly, some may say O'Sullivan but I wouldn't. McMahon & Kevin Mc certainly not. They'll all have great medal collections but that doesn't mean they'll all be individually all time greats. JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 02/03/2018 11:58:29 2081562 Link 0 |
Star would be versatile enough though as he's often played in midfield for us , infact nearly the entire 2015 league season plus you'll nearly always see him back on the line for frees as well but ya he is more of a target man as well. I would totally agree that Star is not in the same league as Murphy as Murphy is one in a million type player and I couldn't compare him to any player past or present. As for AO'S he's an enigma really, he can be brilliant against teams outside the top 4 but then goes missing in big games and no disrespect to mayo posters but I would take Star and Murphy ahead of him all day long. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/03/2018 12:20:26 2081566 Link 0 |
I suppose another way of putting it would be, for me anyway, Murphy would always be a starter but I personally wouldn't have either of the other two as automatic starters.
Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 02/03/2018 12:41:16 2081571 Link 0 |
Agree on Michael Murphy but not on AOS, Donaghy has had a great impact on the game to O'Shea who has a fair bit to go to catch Donaghy.
JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 02/03/2018 12:42:30 2081573 Link 0 |
1. Mayo deserve to win an All Ireland but they don't have the forwards to win it. There are forwards on Dublin's O'Byrne Cup side better than some of Mayo's attacking 6. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 02/03/2018 12:53:27 2081576 Link 0 |
You could be right footblock but malachy o'rourke would never let his defenders isolated 1 on 1 like fitzmaurice does, in fairness we don't have the same caliber of defenders as years gone by but our lack of any kind of defensive strategy kills our defenders, saying that our tackling is brutal. We have a lot of improvement needed if we're to to do any damage in the summer. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/03/2018 13:32:59 2081583 Link 0 |
I can't argue with that. Murphy is a beast
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/03/2018 13:34:51 2081584 Link 0 |
Aye true enough, and by the same token none of the 3 are angels but as a supporter it's very frustrating to see lads hanging out the back of Murphy and no protection from the ref (howaya Justy McMahon). In terms of the players themselves/skill level, obviously I'd be biased but I think Murphy is another level. However I think some here are being a bit down on Star, it's hard to think of a single player that has had a bigger impact on finals and the like. You just have to hear the opposition roar if he loses a ball to see his importance. Fantastic player. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 02/03/2018 16:17:14 2081607 Link 1 |
Anyone slating AOS didn't see the all ireland final last September when he was the best midfielder on the pitch. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 02/03/2018 18:17:51 2081623 Link 1 |
He was very good for 45/50 minutes in the final but then faded out unfortunately for Mayo.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/03/2018 19:11:19 2081627 Link 0 |
I think that was more to do with James Mc switching positions to cover for Jack Mc when he went off injured in the 1st 5 mins but we will never know.
DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 02/03/2018 19:32:17 2081630 Link 0 |
No he wasn't, James McCarthy scored two vital points for Dublin and got MOM. I'd nearly argue Parsons had a better game than AOS, what exactly did he do apart from win a few kick outs in the 1st half?
Hill16Army (Dublin) - Posts: 88 - 02/03/2018 19:53:09 2081631 Link 1 |
Who would non-dubs pick on their starting 15, James McCarthy or Aidan O'Shea? realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 02/03/2018 21:11:03 2081638 Link 0 |
I'd like both
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 02/03/2018 21:31:04 2081641 Link 0 |